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TSA may allow sharp objects on airliners

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TSA may allow sharp objects on airliners

Updated: 11:11 p.m. ET Nov. 29, 2005
A new plan by the Transportation Security Administration would allow airline passengers to bring scissors and other sharp objects in their carry-on bags because the items no longer pose the greatest threat to airline security, according to sources familiar with the plans.

In a series of briefings this week, TSA Director Edmund S. "Kip" Hawley told aviation industry leaders that he plans to announce changes at airport security checkpoints that would allow scissors less than four inches long and tools, such as screwdrivers, less than seven inches long, according to people familiar with the TSA's plans. These people spoke on condition of anonymity because the TSA intends to make the plans public Friday.


"We'll be announcing a number of new initiatives that will have both a positive security and customer service impact," said TSA spokeswoman Yolanda Clark, who declined to comment on the details of the announcement. The plans must be approved by the Homeland Security Department and the Office of Management and Budget.


Faced with a tighter budget and morale problems among its workforce, the TSA says its new policy changes are aimed at making the best use of limited resources. Homeland Security Department officials are increasingly concerned about airports' vulnerability to suicide bomb attacks. TSA officials now want airport screeners to spend more of their time looking for improvised explosive devices rather than sharp objects.

The TSA's internal studies show that carry-on-item screeners spend half of their screening time searching for cigarette lighters, a recently banned item, and that they open 1 out of every 4 bags to remove a pair of scissors, according to sources briefed by the agency. Officials believe that other security measures now in place, such as hardened cockpit doors, would prevent a terrorist from commandeering an aircraft with box cutters or scissors.

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However, many flight attendants do not believe sharp objects should be allowed on board. They argue that even though such items would not enable another Sept. 11, 2001-style hijacking, the items could be used as weapons against passengers or flight-crew members. "TSA needs to take a moment to reflect on why they were created in the first place -- after the world had seen how ordinary household items could create such devastation," said Corey Caldwell, spokeswoman for the Association of Flight Attendants, which has more than 46,000 members. "When weapons are allowed back on board an aircraft, the pilots will be able to land the plane safety but the aisles will be running with blood."

Charles Slepian, an aviation security consultant based in New York, said the TSA's proposed changes fail to take into account the safety of passengers and cabin crew. "Whenever you are serving alcohol, you have a double duty to those who are present to protect them from someone who goes off the deep end," Slepian said. "If we allow people to carry things that are really deadly weapons on board airplanes, we're inviting trouble."

The TSA has been reviewing its list of prohibited items since last summer and has debated whether throwing stars (a martial-arts weapon), ice picks and knives should be allowed back on board, according to TSA documents. In past briefings with reporters, Hawley said the agency was considering other changes that would make the airline security system less predictable. For example, he said that he was unsure whether it makes sense for passengers to routinely remove their shoes at the security checkpoint. He said he also plans to incorporate more bomb-sniffing dogs in airports.

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Other changes are aimed at improving morale among the agency's 43,000 employees, whose number has been cut from 55,000 three years ago. Screener turnover has reached 23 percent and many employees who were recruited to the agency in the hopes of jump-starting a federal government career have not had a raise in three years.

Last month, the TSA changed the federal job classification of its airport screeners to "transportation security officers," a title that puts them more on par with customs or immigration officers, Clark said. Several aviation officials briefed by the TSA said the plan is to allow security screeners to eventually become federal air marshals, who are now part of the TSA. Clark declined to elaborate on those plans other than to say that "it opens up new career opportunities" for screeners.

© 2005 The Washington Post Company

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alezrik wrote:The TSA has been reviewing its list of prohibited items since last summer and has debated whether throwing stars (a martial-arts weapon)


WTF do these guys have against ninjas?
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haha, wtf

how many times do people have shuriken kicking around?
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I've never without my shurikens...I even shower with them.. You have no idea when zombies or samurai might attack especially at 30,000 feet.
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You'd be fucked if you found yourself with snakes on a plane and no machete.
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Does this mean we'll get real silverware again?
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I use my fork to keep your hands of my sammich!
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Small tools and scissors are okay to bring on planes but no love for the ninjas, no mention of shurikens. From CNN:

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The Transportation Security Administration will announce changes in screening procedures at the nation's commercial airports Friday, allowing passengers to take small scissors and tools on planes but increasing random passenger checks and the thoroughness of pat-down searches.

TSA officials briefed managers of the nation's airports on the changes Thursday in a conference call. CNN obtained a summary of the briefing.

Under the new procedures, which are designed to give screeners more time to focus on detecting explosives, scissors less than 4 inches long and tools less than 7 inches long will now be allowed on aircraft. However, knives and some tools will still be prohibited, including crowbars, drills, hammers and saws.

In addition, pat-down procedures at checkpoints will be refined. Currently, screeners pat down passengers' backs and abdomens. Under the new system, screeners will also pat down arms and legs below the mid-thigh, although they will be given discretion to forgo those searches in cases where bare skin or tight clothing make it obvious nothing is being concealed.

The TSA also told airport managers the level of random screening will be increased, with procedures varying from airport to airport to keep any would-be terrorists off guard.

Passengers won't be selected for random searches based on their race, age, religion or nationality, according to the TSA. However, screeners will be given some discretion to forgo searches based on age and gender, so that passengers aren't being patted down by screeners of the opposite sex.

TSA officials told the managers they are currently assessing data from three pilot studies on the impact the new procedures might have on airport operations, but they do not anticipate any increase in waiting times.

About 18,000 airport screeners have received more training in explosive detection, according to the TSA.

Some members of Congress are expressing reservations about the changes.

Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchinson, R-Texas, said allowing sharp-pointed scissors and other objects on planes "could undermine the progress we have made in securing our skies since the 9/11 attacks."

"The change in policy would do little to alleviate screening delays, since screeners would need to stop the conveyor belt to check whether the scissors in question fell within the new limits," she said in a letter to TSA Director Kip Hawley urging him to drop the idea.

Noting that the 9/11 hijackers used boxcutters to commandeer aircraft, Rep. Edward Markey, D-Massachusetts, said the TSA "should not make it easier for future Mohammed Attas to arm themselves with razor sharp objects and bring down a passenger plane."

"Flight attendants and passengers should not be put in a situation where .. a sharp scissors can be taken apart and used as a weapon at the throat of flight attendants and passengers," Markey said.
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