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House passes immigration bill

Postby Phlegm » Sun Dec 18, 2005 8:01 pm

It looks like the fence between Mexico and US is incoming. From Associated Press:

WASHINGTON (AP) -- The House acted Friday to stem the tide of illegal immigration by taking steps to tighten border controls and stop unlawful immigrants from getting jobs.

But lawmakers left for next year the tougher issue of what to do with the 11 million undocumented people already in the country.

The House legislation, billed as a border protection, anti-terrorism and illegal immigration control act, includes such measures as enlisting military and local law enforcement help in stopping illegal entrants and requiring employers to verify the legal status of their workers.

It authorizes the building of a fence along parts of the U.S.-Mexico border.

But it put off consideration of a guest worker program, which President Bush and many in Congress say must be part of a lasting solution to the illegal immigrant crisis.

The vote was 239-182, with opposition coming from Democrats and some Republicans upset by the exclusion of the guest worker issue and other Republicans wanting tougher border control measures.

One measure that Republican leaders wouldn't allow a vote on was a volatile proposal to deny citizenship to babies born in this country to illegal immigrants.

The issue next moves to the Senate, where Majority Leader Bill Frist, R-Tennessee, says he will bring up immigration legislation in February that will provide a framework for guest worker ideas.

Nobody is advocating the deportation of 11 million illegal immigrants, said Republican Rep. Jeff Flake of Arizona, sponsor of a guest worker measure.

Without a temporary worker program, he said, "We simply won't enforce the law, and that's the dirty little secret here."

While many agree with Flake, there are wide differences on the details of a guest worker program.

Some lawmakers would require those in the country illegally to leave before applying for such a program, arguing that counterproposals allowing those already here to seek legal status is equivalent to amnesty.

Bush has proposed that undocumented immigrants be allowed to get three-year work visas.

They could extend those for an additional three years, but would then have to return to their home countries for a year to apply for a new work permit.

The House bill would beef up border security with the help of local law enforcement and military technology, impose tougher penalties for smuggling and re-entry, and end the "catch and release" policy for illegal non-Mexicans.

It makes drunken driving convictions a deportable offense.

The bill makes unlawful presence in the United States, currently a civil offense, a felony.

An amendment to reduce the crime from a felony to a misdemeanor was defeated, with many Democrats voting against the proposal in protest over subjecting people who have overstayed their visas to any criminal charges.

The House also voted 273-148 to end the diversity visa lottery program that's open to countries that send few immigrations to the United States.

Opponents said it was susceptible to fraud and could be a way for terrorists to enter the country.

On Thursday, the House approved an amendment calling for construction of a fence in parts of California, Arizona, New Mexico and Texas.

The most sweeping provision of the House bill would require all employers in the country, more than 7 million, to submit Social Security numbers and other information to a national database to verify the legal status of workers.

The U.S. Chamber of Commerce and other business groups protested this provision as unworkable, while immigrant rights groups said some of the new penalties were draconian.

By making it a crime to be present in the country illegally, said the National Immigration Forum, foreign students who drop a class or high-tech workers who lose jobs and take too long to find a new employer would be subject to arrest.

"A migratory reform that only addresses security will not resolve the bilateral immigration problem," Mexican President Vicente Fox's spokesman Ruben Aguilar said Friday.

"It is indispensable to establish legal, secure and ordered migration. Our countrymen make an enormous contribution to the United States economy."

But sponsors, led by House Judiciary Committee Chairman James Sensenbrenner, R-Wisconsin, and Homeland Security Committee Chairman Peter King, R-New York, insisted the bill was a needed step to restoring the integrity of U.S. borders and re-establishing respect for the law.

The White House said in a statement that it strongly supported the House bill, adding that it "remains committed to comprehensive immigration reform, including a temporary worker program that avoids amnesty."
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Postby Minrott » Sun Dec 18, 2005 9:50 pm

I'm really torn over the babies born on US soil issue. It's a right granted by the constitution, which I support whole heartedly, but I also feel it's being abused. Perhaps amending it so that babies born of those who are legally in the US are citizens. I don't know.
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Postby labbats » Sun Dec 18, 2005 10:02 pm

There should be an amendment to the constitution that the mother must be a citizen as well... but who would ever amend our sacred constitution anyways. :eyecrazy:
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Postby Yamori » Mon Dec 19, 2005 5:12 am

The most sweeping provision of the House bill would require all employers in the country, more than 7 million, to submit Social Security numbers and other information to a national database to verify the legal status of workers.



Yay, more red tape! :d
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Postby Harrison » Mon Dec 19, 2005 3:10 pm

Yay, you live...in Belgium? What do you care?
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Postby Yamori » Mon Dec 19, 2005 3:20 pm

Harrison wrote:Yay, you live...in Belgium? What do you care?


U TRUST UR EYES 2 MUCH YOUNG SKYWALKER
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Postby Captain Insano » Mon Dec 19, 2005 8:32 pm

Minrott wrote:I'm really torn over the babies born on US soil issue. It's a right granted by the constitution, which I support whole heartedly, but I also feel it's being abused. Perhaps amending it so that babies born of those who are legally in the US are citizens. I don't know.


stfu.

I say we clone Dog the bounty hunter about 10k times and have him seek out all unauthorized mexicans and cattle drive their spic asses back across the border.

North Tijuana (San Diego) is a crime infested rotting shithole thanks to unregulated immigration.

If we want to import people lets import hot bitches from places like Spain and Southeast asia and the Czech republic.


If you don't know the dog you best recognize...This guy could fuckstart Mr. T.

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Postby Yamori » Mon Dec 19, 2005 9:39 pm

DISAGREE

An army of NINJAS is clearly the best way to deal with the illegal immigrant problem.

Imagine just walking along the street and a black-clad ninja swoops down from the sky, he grabs some illegal alien dude and throws a bomb that makes a huge flash of bright light and escapes in the confusion.

Maybe the immigrants can be brainwashed and trained to be ninjas themselves.
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Postby Minrott » Mon Dec 19, 2005 9:44 pm

Just put a 100 foot tall poster of Dog's wife every 100 feet along the border with huge typed emblazened on them in spanish saying:

"YE THOSE WHO ENTER HERE HAVE 40 YEARS OF HELLISH MARRIGE WITH SOMETHING LIKE THIS TO LOOK FORWARD TO. TURN BACK IF YOU VALUE YOUR LIFE."

Fuck. Done. Nobody would want in here.
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Postby Tuggan » Mon Dec 19, 2005 9:57 pm

dog the bounty hunter is a fucking joke. always crying in the ear of the guys he goin after, plus isnt he on hawaii? how fuckin hard could it be to be a bounty hunter on an island?

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Postby Captain Insano » Mon Dec 19, 2005 11:58 pm

He's not always in Hawaii... i think he hangs out in the jungles of vietnam killing commies instead of sleeping or when he wants to have fun.
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Postby kaharthemad » Tue Dec 20, 2005 8:17 am

I would like to see dog move to New York City...


maybe a new show...

Dog The Bounty Hunter....Hell's Kitchen addition.

If he can survive that place my respect went up about 100 percent
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