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Postby Lyion » Wed Dec 28, 2005 1:44 pm

From the Mazda plant in Tenn or Japan, Xao?
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Postby xaoshaen » Wed Dec 28, 2005 3:05 pm

lyion wrote:From the Mazda plant in Tenn or Japan, Xao?


Since it's a '93, I'm assuming it either came from Japan, or was assembled in a local Ford plant from Japanese parts.
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Postby Phlegm » Fri Dec 30, 2005 3:04 pm

From Associated Press:

DETROIT (AP) -- A lackluster December was expected to cap a dismal year for U.S. automakers, who saw Asian competitors eat away at their market share throughout 2005.

Analysts are forecasting a weaker month than December 2004, as the impact of traditional year-end deals was muted by deep discounts over the summer. However, the month's sales are likely to be vastly improved from the autumn slump that followed the end of the summer's promotions.

Full-year sales were expected to be essentially flat, but with market share losses for the Big Three, whose best sellers -- gas-guzzling trucks -- fell out of favor.

General Motors Corp., Ford Motor Co. and DaimlerChrysler AG's Chrysler Group had a combined U.S. year-to-date market share of 57 percent at the end of November, down from 60 percent two years before.

Robert Barry, an analyst with Goldman Sachs, estimated their December market share at 54.5 percent, down from 58.1 percent last year.

Early numbers released mid-month indicated that sales got off to a slow start in December, traditionally a time of brisk sales thanks to year-end deals. U.S. sales were down 14 percent for the first 11 days of the month, according to the Power Information Network, a division of the marketing research and consulting firm, J.D. Power, and Associates.

Though the pace picked up later, analysts John Murphy of Merrill Lynch and David Healy of Burnham Securities, both predicted December sales would be 5 percent below year-ago levels.

GM, Ford and Chrysler saw sales soar to near-record levels this summer with discounts that let consumers pay the employee price. But sales plummeted as soon as the discounts expired in October.

"The programs were more about 'reallocating sales' than stimulating demand," Barry said in a research note.

The automakers returned to incentives at the end of the year, though, after the summer's deals, they had less effect than in previous years.

Analysts said the biggest change in 2005 was a shift toward cars and away from trucks.

"This shift has been especially prominent in (the) last four months as September's hurricanes and $3.00/gallon gasoline served as a turning point in consumer preference," Murphy noted, adding that if it continues, the trend could accelerate the market share loss of GM, Ford and Chrysler. The domestic Big Three rely on SUVs and other light trucks for the majority of their sales.

The Big Three are banking on new-vehicle introductions to stop the migration of customers to foreign competitors such as Toyota Motor Corp., Honda Motor Co. and Hyundai Motor Co. Healy said he expected GM, Ford and Chrysler to continue to lose market share in 2006, though at a far slower rate.

Higher short- and medium-term interest rates will make financing a car more expensive next year, but that's not likely to have a dramatic effect on vehicle sales given the strength of the economy, he said.
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Postby Captain Insano » Fri Dec 30, 2005 5:09 pm

I can't understand why this kind of thing is happening...

I mean look at this fantastic new card by Ford called the "Fusion"...

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<img src="http://www.autobytel.com/images/2006/Ford/Fusion/400/06_Ford_Fusion_intdrvr.jpg">

I mean look at that thing! Whats not to like?!!!

Between the cheap alloy rims, flat lifeless paint job, plastic grills, standard headlights, Ford Taurus interior with big klunky knobs and plastic everything?!!! OMFG who wouldn't want to pay $24k!

It's not like you could go out and buy a Mazda 6 or Nissan Altima for less money or maybe a nice Maxima.




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Postby Minrott » Sat Dec 31, 2005 4:01 pm

I don't think it's a bad buy for 14k, since that's what they're going for.
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Postby Captain Insano » Sun Jan 01, 2006 5:25 pm

The decent one is 22k. The lowest end one is 18k.
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