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Ontogeny recapitulates Phylogeny

Postby The Kizzy » Thu Jan 19, 2006 1:15 pm

Please discuss.
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Postby Tae-Bo » Thu Jan 19, 2006 1:23 pm

discredited and untrue
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Postby The Kizzy » Thu Jan 19, 2006 1:47 pm

are you sure about that?
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Postby Tae-Bo » Thu Jan 19, 2006 1:51 pm

yes
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Postby The Kizzy » Thu Jan 19, 2006 1:55 pm

ok :rofl:
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Postby Zanchief » Thu Jan 19, 2006 1:56 pm

His argument does seem pretty conclusive.
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Postby The Kizzy » Thu Jan 19, 2006 1:56 pm

yeah, lol
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Postby Tae-Bo » Thu Jan 19, 2006 1:58 pm

p.s. im talkin about haeckel's theory not the modern interpretation P.S. welcome to bio 100
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Postby The Kizzy » Thu Jan 19, 2006 2:05 pm

its Bio 2210, and its Gaskin's theory, and we had a very very interesting lecture last night, which is why I brought it up. My professor said "fucking" in class, it was great.
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Postby Tae-Bo » Thu Jan 19, 2006 2:08 pm

hmm gl in bio
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Postby The Kizzy » Thu Jan 19, 2006 2:15 pm

thanks, now why do you not believe this theory, its pretty straight forward, cut and dry
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Postby Tae-Bo » Thu Jan 19, 2006 2:22 pm

because humans dont progress through the evolutionary process from embryo to birth
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Postby xaoshaen » Thu Jan 19, 2006 2:23 pm

The Kizzy wrote:its Bio 2210, and its Gaskin's theory, and we had a very very interesting lecture last night, which is why I brought it up. My professor said "fucking" in class, it was great.


Recapitulation was Haekel's theory. Did Gaskin modify it or have his own take on it? Like Duck said, it's been thoroughly discredited in its literal form. There are some links between embryo development and species development, but the latter doesn't replicate the former.
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Postby xaoshaen » Thu Jan 19, 2006 2:24 pm

D. Duck wrote:because humans dont progress through the evolutionary process from embryo to birth


Not to mention minor details like imbalanced organ development.
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Postby Tacks » Thu Jan 19, 2006 2:27 pm

Why would you even begin to think it's true? It's already been proven wrong. With technology available today it's not considered anything more than an old farce. Notice the word "theory" again here. You know by now what a theory is right?
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Postby Tae-Bo » Thu Jan 19, 2006 2:29 pm

sigh im going to class bye
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Postby Tacks » Thu Jan 19, 2006 2:32 pm

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Postby The Kizzy » Thu Jan 19, 2006 2:40 pm

I guess this version is modified, basically shows that fossils found in the earth's layers follow the progression of a human embryo. Not that humans progress through the evolutionary process.

It was something that made you sit back and go, hmmmm........ very interesting stuff.

Think about it.

Layers of the earth are Molten Core, then no life (before a woman gets pregnant)

First life and layer on earth were one celled organisms like foraminiferans (think that was the word) {much like the fertilized egg is a one celled organism}

so on and so forth
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Postby xaoshaen » Thu Jan 19, 2006 3:40 pm

The Kizzy wrote:I guess this version is modified, basically shows that fossils found in the earth's layers follow the progression of a human embryo. Not that humans progress through the evolutionary process.


That would be phylogeny recapitulating ontogeny, which doesn't make any sense at all. You can't claim that the fossil record follows the embryonic growth of a human, when the fossil record necessarily existed before humanity.

It was something that made you sit back and go, hmmmm........ very interesting stuff.

Think about it.

Layers of the earth are Molten Core, then no life (before a woman gets pregnant)

First life and layer on earth were one celled organisms like foraminiferans (think that was the word) {much like the fertilized egg is a one celled organism}

so on and so forth


If that's an accurate representation of your professor's lecture, I'd sue your school.
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Postby The Kizzy » Thu Jan 19, 2006 3:44 pm

That is your opinion and you are entitled to it, I however do not agree. I do not underatnd how you can debate what fossils have been found in different layers of the earth. Makes no sense.
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Postby xaoshaen » Thu Jan 19, 2006 3:49 pm

The Kizzy wrote:That is your opinion and you are entitled to it, I however do not agree. I do not underatnd how you can debate what fossils have been found in different layers of the earth. Makes no sense.


Which part is my opinion? Ontogeny doesn't recapitulate phylogeny. The doctrine's been discredited for quite some time now. Phylogeny can't recapitulate ontogeny simply because of the temporal discord. I never actually said anything about which fossils have been found in which layer of earth, but attempting to relate earth's geology to the gestation process is ridiculous. It may make an interesting metaphor, but there's absolutely no true correllation between the two.
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Postby Tacks » Thu Jan 19, 2006 3:53 pm

Oh cool, so now we're evolved from the FOSSILS of our dead bodies? liek whoa~
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Postby Captain Insano » Thu Jan 19, 2006 3:57 pm

how exactly does the flying spaghetti monster fit into all of this?
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Postby Lyion » Thu Jan 19, 2006 4:00 pm

It proves the source of intelligent design is Olive Garden.

It likewise proves trying to determine our history based on indentations in rock is about as useful as mens nipples.
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Postby Tacks » Thu Jan 19, 2006 4:00 pm

The Kizzy wrote:That is your opinion and you are entitled to it, I however do not agree. I do not underatnd how you can debate what fossils have been found in different layers of the earth. Makes no sense.


You need to re-read what he said.
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