Zero tolerance = zero thinking

Post by **Martrae** » Sat Feb 25, 2006 10:07 am

Students Suspended for Snowball Fight
Feb 24, 4:38 PM (ET)

RIVERSIDE, Calif. (AP) - Two Ramona High School students were suspended for bringing dangerous objects to school - snowballs.

Seniors Michael Sepulveda and Daniel Zavala, the snowball co-conspirators, made a pre-dawn run to the San Bernardino Mountains to fill their pickup trucks with snow and bring it to school for what they hoped would turn into an annual "bring Big Bear to Riverside" ritual.

They were suspended after a school parking lot snowball fight before the start of classes Thursday.

Principal Mike Neece said one of his most important responsibilities is maintaining a safe, orderly learning environment.

"Anything that disturbs that or disrupts that is inappropriate on a school campus," Neece said. "Anything that could cause injury, or could cause a student to get upset and instigate a fight, or damage students' personal property is just inappropriate behavior."

Zavala and Sepulveda were stunned.

"The school overdid it. In the handbook it does not say, 'Do not bring snow to school,'" Zavala said Thursday afternoon.

"It's snow," Sepulveda said.

Savala's mother Martha Valdez called the boys' actions "harmless" but said she supported the decision by school officials.

"They're still there to mandate the rules, and they have to draw the line somewhere."

Zanchief · Post by **Zanchief** » Sat Feb 25, 2006 10:43 am

Snowballs can be dangerous. A snowball fight could escalate. It's not out of the question that someone who packed hundreds of snowballs with the intention of randomly throwing them at people shouldn't be suspended.

Go look for another damning article about schools. This one isn't that bad.

Post by **Martrae** » Sat Feb 25, 2006 11:01 am

Oh noes, an escalated snowball fight! It's not like the snow was packed with rocks.

These boys did something creative, something that 10 years ago would have had the teachers out joining in the fun. Now creativity is rewarded with punishment....go go school system. Follow orders, do as we say and you'll grow up to be perfect little automotons!

Eldred · Post by **Eldred** » Sat Feb 25, 2006 11:07 am

Yeah kind of silly, imo. But with everyone up in arms if someone were to get hurt, it's the schools liability at that point.

mofish · Post by **mofish** » Sat Feb 25, 2006 11:11 am

Martrae wrote:Oh noes, an escalated snowball fight! It's not like the snow was packed with rocks.

These boys did something creative, something that 10 years ago would have had the teachers out joining in the fun. Now creativity is rewarded with punishment....go go school system. Follow orders, do as we say and you'll grow up to be perfect little automotons!

You would be the first one here with the link if some kid got brained by a stone filled snowball and died on school property.

Gargamellow · Post by **Gargamellow** » Sat Feb 25, 2006 11:44 am

One time I was walking into the high school area of my school to get a Mellow Yellow and I all of a sudden was nailed in the eye by a huge snowball. When my vision came back, I saw my older brother laughing his ass off at me. The entire hallway had exploded in this huge snowball fight after he hit me so there was snow flying everywhere. I was running to grab a snowball to nail my brother with when a pack of seniors picked me up and carried me to this snowpile that had gathered outside the high school doors. They tossed me into it and laughed and laughed. Man that snow rocked. I miss those days.

Nobody even got a detention and this fight was inside.

Tikker · Post by **Tikker** » Sat Feb 25, 2006 11:45 am

articles like this show exactly what's wrong with society today

Post by **Martrae** » Sat Feb 25, 2006 11:58 am

mofish wrote:
Martrae wrote:Oh noes, an escalated snowball fight! It's not like the snow was packed with rocks.

These boys did something creative, something that 10 years ago would have had the teachers out joining in the fun. Now creativity is rewarded with punishment....go go school system. Follow orders, do as we say and you'll grow up to be perfect little automotons!

You would be the first one here with the link if some kid got brained by a stone filled snowball and died on school property.

See, that's why I said "It's not like the snow was packed with rocks."

Harmless fun is harmless fun.

labbats · Post by **labbats** » Sat Feb 25, 2006 12:10 pm

All your snow fort are belong to us

Diekan · Post by **Diekan** » Sat Feb 25, 2006 12:17 pm

Well I can see where the school is coming from. As sue happy as people are today all it would have taken was for one stone to have been accidently rolled up in the snowball - some kid looses an eye and all hell breaks loose.

I remember the days of a good snowball fight, but times have changed and people are lot more whinny now.

labbats · Post by **labbats** » Sat Feb 25, 2006 12:19 pm

People are whiny because they didn't get hit with enough snowballs when they were young. Lock them in a locker until they see it our way.

Spazz · Post by **Spazz** » Sat Feb 25, 2006 3:52 pm

I think when i was in school snow ball fighting wa a suspendable offense. Kids arent allowed to do shit. Everyone wants em to not fuck and not use dope but everything they do that doesnt involve those 2 gets them in trubble.

Harrison · Post by **Harrison** » Sat Feb 25, 2006 4:34 pm

spazz wrote:I think when i was in school snow ball fighting wa a suspendable offense. Kids arent allowed to do shit. Everyone wants em to not fuck and not use dope but everything they do that doesnt involve those 2 gets them in trubble.

Don't lie, you never went to school.

Spazz · Post by **Spazz** » Sat Feb 25, 2006 4:52 pm

HUH HUH Yea dude i did and it really sucked. Coming from you that doesnt mean jack shit. House in your name ? car in your name? prolly not you fuckin bum.

Captain Insano · Post by **Captain Insano** » Sat Feb 25, 2006 6:13 pm

First its snowballs and then it's AK-47's and muthafuckaz being shooting up the whole place Columbine stylz yo.

Niggaz got to regulate werd?

Witty · Post by **Witty** » Sat Feb 25, 2006 6:18 pm

Hey now, Harrison has a High School diploma. Right, Harrison? Show him your High School Diploma. Those things are hard to get, dude... hold on a second, he'll find it. He'll show you...

Harrison · Post by **Harrison** » Sat Feb 25, 2006 7:35 pm

spazz wrote:HUH HUH Yea dude i did and it really sucked. Coming from you that doesnt mean jack shit. House in your name ? car in your name? prolly not you fuckin bum.

Construct a single sentence without sounding like a fucking illiterate retard.

JUST ONE!

And we've been over this... a highschool diploma doesn't mean what it used to in this country anymore.

brinstar · Post by **brinstar** » Sat Feb 25, 2006 8:22 pm

redneck forklift derby

Harrison · Post by **Harrison** » Sat Feb 25, 2006 10:41 pm

Aren't you a glorified secretary?

araby · Post by **araby** » Sun Feb 26, 2006 10:47 am

Harrison wrote:Aren't you a glorified secretary?

you better stop talkin so loud the fuck-up police will find you

Dylan · Post by **Dylan** » Sun Feb 26, 2006 1:22 pm

Harrison wrote:And we've been over this... a highschool diploma doesn't mean what it used to in this country anymore.

So you beat the system and didn't get one?