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Postby Harrison » Thu Apr 13, 2006 5:28 pm

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/mccain_booed ... NlYwN0bQ--

Union Leaders Boo McCain on Immigration

By RON FOURNIER, AP Political Writer Tue Apr 4, 9:57 PM ET

WASHINGTON - Sen. John McCain (news, bio, voting record) threatened on Tuesday to cut short a speech to union leaders who booed his immigration views and later challenged his statements on organized labor and the
Iraq war.
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"If you like, I will leave," McCain told the AFL-CIO's Building and Construction Trades Department, pivoting briefly from the lectern. He returned to the microphone after the crowd quieted.

"OK, then please give me the courtesy I would give you."

It was a colorful and contentious session, producing as many laughs as boos, that tested McCain's commitment to the straight-talking, wisecracking image he honed during his failed 2000 presidential bid. An underdog six years ago, the Arizona Republican is expected to seek the 2008 GOP nomination as a front-runner.

"I loved it. I love mixing it up like that," McCain said after the speech to a Democratic-leaning crowd of several hundred.

He did seem to enjoy the back and forth that began minutes into his address, when he mentioned campaigning on behalf of California Gov.
Arnold Schwarzenegger, a fellow Republican. The crowd booed the reference to Schwarzenegger but laughed at McCain's self-effacing joke that followed.

He said somebody came up to him at the Schwarzenegger event and said, "Do people tell you look like John McCain?"

"Yes, they do."

"Doesn't that make you madder than hell?"

Later, the senator outlined his position on the Senate immigration debate, saying tougher border enforcement must be accompanied by guest-worker provisions that give illegal immigrants a legal path toward citizenship.

Murmurs from the crowd turned to booing. "Pay a decent wage!" one audience member shouted.

"I've heard that statement before," McCain said before threatening to leave.

Afterward, the senator said he offered to cut his speech short "because I wanted to be heard."

In the speech, McCain also argued that withdrawing U.S. troops prematurely from Iraq would turn terrorists loose on the United States.

This time, there was no booing — though one audience member cursed from the back of the crowd.

McCain got another laugh when he finished the speech and asked whether anybody had "questions, comments or insults."

The first questioner seemed to challenge his commitment to organized labor. When McCain started to praise a particular labor group in Arizona, the crowd booed again.

"Stop!" he said with a smile, drawing laughter from the crowd. "I surrender."

But he took more questions, including a pointed one on his immigration plan.

McCain responded by saying immigrants were taking jobs nobody else wanted. He offered anybody in the crowd $50 an hour to pick lettuce in Arizona.

Shouts of protest rose from the crowd, with some accepting McCain's job offer.

"I'll take it!" one man shouted.

McCain insisted none of them would do such menial labor for a complete season. "You can't do it, my friends."

Some in the crowd said they didn't appreciate McCain questioning their work ethic.

"I was impressed with his comedy routine and ability to tap dance without music. But I was impressed with nothing else about him," said John Wasniewski of Milwaukee. "He's supposed to be Mr. Straight Talk?"

Others said McCain showed some moxie, if not the best political judgment.

"Most of us don't agree with him on immigration, but I give him credit for trying," said Chris Schoenbeck of Milwaukee.

With his profile rising, a growing number of Democrats are accusing McCain of flip-flopping on issues to court conservative GOP primary voters.

McCain denied that charge later Tuesday — after addressing the Hispanic Chamber of Commerce, a GOP-leaning group that backs his immigration views. There were no boos. Just laughter, and at the end of his remarks, a standing ovation from the Hispanic leaders.

Yet McCain's mind was still on the labor activists and their prickly reception.

"I can't tell you how much fun that was," he said.


$50.00/hr picking lettuce? Sign me up!

I'll do that for a season and slack off for a few years, fuck...

This guy is officially retarded as of that moment he said no American would work picking lettuce for $50/hr and also is incapable of doing so.
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Postby mojo » Thu Apr 13, 2006 5:37 pm

Id do it for $50hr! I could use a little sun from all the winter rain in seattle!
I am capable as well, since ive had the pleasure of pulling weeds & turning rocks over while training in the military (gogo fort bliss).. :eyecrazy:
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Postby brinstar » Thu Apr 13, 2006 5:40 pm

hmm it may have been a metaphor

i'm sure he is aware that many americans would take a job picking lettuce in arizona if it paid $50 an hour

i think what he meant was that for the average american to take a job picking lettuce in arizona, it would HAVE to pay $50 an hour, rather than the current wage immigrants are earning for it (which is what, a tenth of that? i don't know)

i could be wrong, but either way i don't think he's retarded. he's one of the few reps i actually kinda like.
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Postby mojo » Thu Apr 13, 2006 5:42 pm

totally but he didnt have to say
McCain insisted none of them would do such menial labor for a complete season. "You can't do it, my friends."

Thats just silly.
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Postby Harrison » Thu Apr 13, 2006 5:48 pm

*nod* that's the more insulting part moreso than the actual numbers involved.

Stating that no American is capable of doing it is beyond racist.
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Postby Siferz » Thu Apr 13, 2006 7:42 pm

Yea, he wasn't being serious that you could actually get paid $50 an hour to pick lettuce. You'd get less than half that in real life. It's not a stretch that most americans 'can't do it'. I don't think he means they can't physically do it, although that's what it sounds like, he means (imo) 90% of americans wouldn't get up at 4-5am work 10+ hour shifts breaking their back in the Arizona sun. He should have said "You won't do it, you just won't".
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Postby Tuggan » Thu Apr 13, 2006 11:29 pm

lol for half of 50? i'll get up at 4am and work 10 hour shifts in the arizona sun for $25 bucks an hour. mexicans get paid jack shit, and if theyre illegals theyre rarely gettin paid even the min wage.

its really fuckin sad. even our politicans openly acknowledge that mexicans are nothin but cheap, exploitable labor.
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Postby Maeya » Fri Apr 14, 2006 5:06 am

Oh... why, do you like it when our politicians lie and sugarcoat the truth?
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Postby Minrott » Fri Apr 14, 2006 7:23 am

Aside from that comment that may have been misconstrued by the crowd as to it's meaning, what's he wrong about? I can't bring myself to vote for McCain because of some other political points, but I think in general he has a good idea of what needs to be done on a lot of issues.
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Postby vonkaar » Fri Apr 14, 2006 7:58 am

brinstar wrote: one of the few reps i actually kinda like.


same...

He's a good guy. I'll still probably vote Nader :ugh: but if I were living in a contentious state, I'd likely go McCain, np.
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Postby mofish » Fri Apr 14, 2006 8:01 am

McCain sucks. He also wont get the nomination.
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Postby vonkaar » Fri Apr 14, 2006 8:08 am

your mom sucks
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Postby mofish » Fri Apr 14, 2006 8:42 am

Your mom went to college!

Ok I shouldnt just drop the McCain sucks bomb. He doesnt actually suck. He'd be preferable to what we have now. Although that isnt saying much.

I think he has this undeserved image as some sort of independent renegade. But he is one of the most conservative, GOP party line towers in the senate based on his voting record. He's just not the renegade people think he is.
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Postby Sorina S » Fri Apr 14, 2006 9:12 am

This just in to the CNN newsdesk: MacDonalds, Burger King and Wendys corporations have announced they will no longer be offering lettuce with their food products. A spokesman says the $12.00 cost per head of lettuce would bankrupt their companies in six months. Instead they will be offering a side of light sweet crude.

In other news Senator John McCain resigned his post to take a job picking lettuce on a farm outside of Tucson, AZ. When asked for comment a spokesman said, "It's a dry heat".
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Postby Gaazy » Fri Apr 14, 2006 9:17 am

..lol?
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Postby Diekan » Fri Apr 14, 2006 1:32 pm

People need to get real about the illegal issue.

1. The republicans are not going to do anything about it because their "base" (the rich business owner types) are making way to much money paying shit wages, not paying taxes and not spending a nickel on heath care - while employing illegals.

2. The democrats are not going to do anything about it because they don't want to piss off their "base" of Hispanic voters (who usually vote dem).

As long as the rich can continue to fatten their pockets and dems can get Hispanic votes - neither are going to do jack shit about the problem.

I love how the media is calling it an "undocumented immigrant" problem. Undocumented my ass... they are here ILLEGALLY. Now, they're coming out of the woodwork and holding rallies for their 'rights.' What rights? YOU'RE HERE ILLEGALLY YOU HAVE NO FUCKING RIGHTS. Like that group of illegal workers that got fired from that meat packing place? Anyone else read about that?

I don't have a problem with immigration. Hey, you wanna come to the US, fine. I don't care where you're from, but just do it LEGALLY.

The problem with the illegals is that they have absolutely NO intentions of becoming an "American." They could give a shit less about our laws, customs or anything else. Regardless of what the clueless left thinks - this country DOES have an identity. We speak English, Christianity is our dominate religion, we engage in capitalism daily, we already have a flag, a pledge of allegiance and so forth. But, these people could care less. They sneak across the boarder, break our laws - then run around waving their Mexican flags screaming about their "rights." Get the fuck out.

Are they doing jobs most Americans wont do or want? Yes and No. When it comes to picking heads of lettuce I can’t see Joe Shmoo getting of his ass to do that at a wage low enough to keep the cost of lettuce hitting 5 dollars a head in the grocery store. However, they’re not just taking the truly shit jobs here. They’re also doing construction, a field that can potentially pay a LOT more than 5 dollars an hour. In my area they do a lot of landscaping – again a field that can potentially pay a hell of a lot more than five bucks an hour. But, they’re here and greedy business owners will use them as a means to fatten their pockets.

What’s worse is that not only are they taking jobs that could be used by real Americans, but now they’re taking college seats and costing us an assload in health care every time Jose the illegal hurts his back and has to go to the ER.

You know this whole issue just goes to show how much that moron Dubya really cares about “homeland security.â€
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Postby Narrock » Fri Apr 14, 2006 2:26 pm

With the exception of your last paragraph, I agree with you Diekan. Not all contractors use illegals. Well, maybe they do, but it's because they couldn't differentiate between a legitimate Driver's License or SS Card, with a counterfeit one.
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Postby Phlegm » Fri Apr 14, 2006 2:29 pm

Sorina S wrote:In other news Senator John McCain resigned his post to take a job picking lettuce on a farm outside of Tucson, AZ. When asked for comment a spokesman said, "It's a dry heat".


Even picking lettuce, McCain still is able to afford to retain a spokesman.
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