Iranian president stoked tension with Israel.

Phlegm · Post by **Phlegm** » Fri Apr 14, 2006 2:51 pm

From CNN:

TEHRAN, Iran (CNN) -- Iran's president, who last October said Israel "must be wiped off the map," stoked tensions with the Jewish state Friday saying, "the Zionist regime is a dying tree, and soon its branches will be broken down."

Despite that, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said in a speech that Israel remains a threat to Islamic countries.

"The existence of the Zionist regime is tantamount to an imposition of an unending and unrestrained threat so that none of the nations and Islamic countries of the region and beyond can feel secure from its threat," Reuters News Agency quoted Ahmadinejad as saying in Friday's speech.

The Iranian president's remarks came as Western nations pressured Tehran to halt its uranium enrichment program, something the United States, Israel and others say can lead to the production of nuclear weapons.

Iran says the nuclear program is only for power production, but Israel's chief of military intelligence, Maj. Gen. Amos Yadlin, said Wednesday it could lead to an Iranian nuclear weapon by the end of the decade, according to an Associated Press report.

In his October speech, Ahmadinejad said the "new wave of confrontations generated in Palestine and the growing turmoil in the Islamic world would in no time wipe Israel away," according to paraphrased statements reported by Iran's Islamic Republic News Agency.

In December, Ahmadinejad continued the verbal assault against Israel, calling the Holocaust a "myth."

"They have invented a myth that Jews were massacred and place this above God, religions and the prophets," Ahmadinejad said in the December speech. "If you have burned the Jews, why don't you give a piece of Europe, the United States, Canada or Alaska to Israel?"

Friday he again questioned the killing of millions of Jews during World War II.

"If such a tragedy were true," said Ahmadinejad, "why with force, by killing, does it have to be compensated?"

Ahmadinejad on Friday was addressing a room full of representatives from Middle Eastern and some African nations for a gathering billed as a conference "on Jerusalem and support for the rights of the Palestinian people."

He described the Holocaust -- in which 6 million Jews and millions of others were killed by the Nazis -- as a story that "many countries believe."

Ahmadinejad said Palestinians are being subjected to a "holocaust."

"And is this holocaust worse than or less bad than the holocaust you claim that has taken place? There is no doubt in the holocaust that exists in Palestine at the moment, and has been existing for the last 60 years."

U.S. and European leaders have pointed to Ahmadinejad's comments on the Holocaust and his calls for the destruction of Israel as signs that Iran must be prevented from securing nuclear weapons.

U.S. State Department spokesman Sean McCormack echoed those concerns Friday, calling Ahmadinejad's most-recent remarks "more reprehensible rhetoric."

"This is the kind of rhetoric I think that has only added to the fears and concerns of the international community as it relates to Iran's pursuit of a nuclear weapon," McCormack told reporters in Washington.

"If you think about it, you have the elected head of state calling for the annihilation of another state. That is not only, as I said, reprehensible, but a source of grave concern for the entire international community."

The U.N. Security Council has given Iran until the end of April to suspend uranium enrichment.

On Friday, Ahmadinejad slammed the United States and other countries as "against the advancement of technology and science" in Iran.

"The governments who use force become obstacles to the progress of other countries. They do not allow the countries in the region to follow the path of progress and advancement," Ahmadinejad complained.

International Atomic Energy Agency Director General Mohamed ElBaradei met with Iranian officials Thursday. Afterward, he said Tehran had not agreed to international demands that it halt uranium enrichment, but he also said the issue was not "urgent."

Narrock · Post by **Narrock** » Fri Apr 14, 2006 3:24 pm

Anybody who doesn't think Ahmadinejad is a threat is on glue. Like I said before... he may be just bluffing and exaggerating Iran's capabilities, but this guy is a total nut case and needs to be 'dealt with' swiftly.

dammuzis · Post by **dammuzis** » Sat Apr 15, 2006 12:15 am

we will somehow attack iran next year

either invasion or bombing

araby · Post by **araby** » Sat Apr 15, 2006 1:35 am

dammuzis wrote:we will somehow attack iran next year

either invasion or bombing

just in time to campaign!

Markarado · Post by **Markarado** » Sat Apr 15, 2006 3:00 am

Nuke the fuckers. It would save us a lot of time and money.

Narrock · Post by **Narrock** » Sat Apr 15, 2006 3:48 am

Markarado wrote:Nuke the fuckers. It would save us a lot of time and money.

It won't work. They'll just keep producing new wackos over and over again.

Markarado · Post by **Markarado** » Sat Apr 15, 2006 4:00 am

Then what shall we do? At this rate we'll wage war with the entire Middle East before this shit ends.

Narrock · Post by **Narrock** » Sat Apr 15, 2006 4:04 am

I think war is inevitable because Ahmadinejad is not going to let the U.N. weapons inspectors in. Like Harrison mentioned in another thread a couple weeks ago... Iran is just itching for the nerf stick.

Diekan · Post by **Diekan** » Sat Apr 15, 2006 5:11 am

The problem is that not all Iranians hate the US. In fact the youth is more welcoming to the West than in most other Arab nations.

For an invasion of Iran to go smooth we have to first get Iraq on track and show the Iranians "hey this can be you too!"

I can't see us going into Iran any time soon. I'm not saying it wont happen, but right now I just can't see it as a viable option. Elements of the liberal media (Communist News Network for example) has done a great job of brainwashing the citizens of this country into thinking Iraq is a complete mess. Thus, I can't see much public support on this issue.

What I can see though is that if we invaded Iran the terrorists (a.k.a freedom fighters to you liberals) of Iraq will take it as an oppertunity to increase their attacks in an attempt to create more chaos in Iraq. It also might cause Syria to jump in thinking they might be next...

Invading Iran, while probably necessary, could potentially cause the entire region to completely collapse in war.

kaharthemad · Post by **kaharthemad** » Sat Apr 15, 2006 6:43 am

we know where these places are at, Why not just get some smart bombs.. ok so the sick bastard loves sticking them near kids, well sorry it cant be helped. If they manage to build a bomb and hit isreal with it, the death would be 30 times that of a building with a few kids in it.

Post by **Arlos** » Sat Apr 15, 2006 11:27 am

After the intelligence failures of Iraq, you trust the intelligence so implicitly now, that you'd be willing to gamble on getting the proper buildings right? Given the state of the US intelligence apperat, the building we picked to bomb would be really making baby formula or something. Remember before the Iraq war, Powell, Bush, Rumsfeld, Cheney, etc. were all swearing up and down that we knew exactly where the WMD sites were, we had specific data, etc. etc. etc. Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice....

-Arlos

mofish · Post by **mofish** » Sat Apr 15, 2006 11:57 am

Hot air. Loudmouth holds no real power. Unless the ayatollahs/mullahs have gone completely insane, there will be no attack on Isreal. Hot air.

Diekan · Post by **Diekan** » Sat Apr 15, 2006 12:24 pm

What a lot of people don't understand is that while the Ayatollah does wield influence the true power is held with the clerics.

I was not in support of going into Iraq, and still believe that we were lied to from the start. I don't like Bush, nor do I like much of what he's done over the past few years. Going into Iran is a bad idea at this point in time. Still I can see his administration dressing an invasion up as another effort to "protect our soil." I don't give much credence to intellectual prowess of the average American, thus I guess I can see public opinion being swayed through the fear machine of propoganda. Even though most people still swallow what the media feeds them hook, line and sinker.

mappatazee · Post by **mappatazee** » Sat Apr 15, 2006 9:10 pm

He's a threat to Isreal. Like I care.

Narrock · Post by **Narrock** » Sat Apr 15, 2006 9:23 pm

mappatazee wrote:He's a threat to Isreal. Like I care.

A lot of people care. I care too because I have a lot of Jewish friends, many of whom are from Israel, and they have a lot of family there. Israel is a close ally of America. We should help them in their fight against radical arabic retards.

mofish · Post by **mofish** » Sat Apr 15, 2006 9:30 pm

Yep. I might be 180 from you M-dawg on most politics, but Im still pretty staunch in my support of Israel. The arab dictators are getting as much mileage out of fear and hate for Israel as possible. If they want to keep starting shit, then fuck em.

Most of the arab governments dont deserve to be in power anyway, corrupt abusers of their peoples.

Narrock · Post by **Narrock** » Sat Apr 15, 2006 9:37 pm

mofish wrote:Yep. I might be 180 from you M-dawg on most politics, but Im still pretty staunch in my support of Israel. The arab dictators are getting as much mileage out of fear and hate for Israel as possible. If they want to keep starting shit, then fuck em.

Most of the arab governments dont deserve to be in power anyway, corrupt abusers of their peoples.

Phlegm · Post by **Phlegm** » Sat Apr 15, 2006 9:51 pm

Diekan wrote:What a lot of people don't understand is that while the Ayatollah does wield influence the true power is held with the clerics.

Ayatollah is a high ranking cleric.

mappatazee · Post by **mappatazee** » Sat Apr 15, 2006 10:23 pm

Mindia wrote:Jesus won't come back unless the Jews have a state of Isreal!

Narrock · Post by **Narrock** » Sun Apr 16, 2006 12:13 am

mappatazee wrote:
Mindia wrote:Jesus won't come back unless the Jews have a state of Isreal!

you just had to go there didn't you?

Harrison · Post by **Harrison** » Sun Apr 16, 2006 12:24 am

mappatazee wrote:I'm a useless cock-nozzle. I am incapable of a rational conversation without spouting off inane blabber

Translated by Harrison on April 16th, 2006

mappatazee · Post by **mappatazee** » Sun Apr 16, 2006 11:32 am

I just HAD to go there? What does that mean Mindia. Is hellfire going to rain down on me now?

Narrock · Post by **Narrock** » Sun Apr 16, 2006 11:09 pm

mappatazee wrote:I just HAD to go there? What does that mean Mindia. Is hellfire going to rain down on me now?

I just thought you were trying to be a wise-ass with that comment.

Harrison · Post by **Harrison** » Sun Apr 16, 2006 11:48 pm

Of course he was, he is completely fucking useless in a discussion on this board.

kaharthemad · Post by **kaharthemad** » Mon Apr 17, 2006 7:20 am

mofish wrote:Hot air. Loudmouth holds no real power. Unless the ayatollahs/mullahs have gone completely insane, there will be no attack on Isreal. Hot air.

You willing to stake your life and the lives of a whole city on that assumption?