2 charged with rape of newborn

Reverie · Post by **Reverie** » Wed May 17, 2006 10:20 am

This article is a couple of days old and I did scan briefly here to see if it was already here, but I could have missed it, so just delete this or something if it's double posting... It's not exactly a nice story, obviously, from the title, but it's still something that should be shared, because I really can't get what the hell is wrong with some god damn people.

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McKenzie police have charged two Carroll County parents with raping their child.

Jonathan Wayne Goodrum, 19, and Kristina Louise Sawyer, 18, are charged with raping their 1-day-old girl before she was taken home from McKenzie Regional Hospital about six weeks ago, said McKenzie Police Lt. Tim Nanney.

While both parents have been charged, Sawyer's bond was reduced because police still are investigating what role, if any, she played in the possible rape of her child, Nanney said. She was charged because "I could not exclude her from being part of it, so I had to charge her also," he said. "I could not exclude her at the time from being a participant of it."
Nanney said hospital officials notified police of the possible rape after noticing injuries to the child's rear during a routine examination given before newborns are released from the hospital.

"There were some skin tears in and around the private (back) area of the child," he said.

The investigation led to the child's parents, Nanney said, and there was no indication that any hospital worker was involved in the incident.

"Based on the investigation, we ruled out everyone but the mom and the dad," Nanney said.

The Tennessee Department of Children's Services has placed the baby girl with a relative, Nanney said. The parents are not allowed to have contact with the girl, who is now about 6 weeks old.

The couple was engaged to be married and was living at the Value Inn Motel on Highland Drive in McKenzie at the time of the incident. Sawyer is a McKenzie native, and Goodrum also has relatives living in Carroll County, though Nanney did not know his hometown.

Goodrum is being held in the Carroll County Jail in lieu of $100,000 bond. Sawyer's bond was reduced to $5,000 after her arraignment. Nanney did not know if she still was being held or had been released.

While no trial date has been set, Nanney said one probably would not occur before September.

Post by **Martrae** » Wed May 17, 2006 10:22 am

WTF!

At the hospital even!

There are some sick sick sick people in the world.

Zanchief · Post by **Zanchief** » Wed May 17, 2006 10:23 am

I'd rather not know about stuff like this...

Reverie · Post by **Reverie** » Wed May 17, 2006 10:27 am

Yes, neither would I, but like some of the other messed up articles I find, I had to find this one and at first I thought I was imagining what I was reading, but apparently not. They have mugshots of the parents, too, but I don't know... I don't get how someone - anyone can do that..

I can't really understand how (mentally) or why anyone rapes anyone, but if it's a child it's just beyond wrong and a .... newborn? In the hospital? Did they not think they would get caught? I mean. What goes through someones mind and makes them say, "Hey, I want to do this to a baby."

And.. both of them.. I mean, it says that they are not sure if she was actually involved in doing anything, but she had the baby and she was in the hospital, so she had to be there... so what the hell was she thinking not stopping him? I would have killed him if he touched my daughter - I don't care if he was the father or anything else. It's just disgusting, gross, wrong... extremely messed up..

Tikker · Post by **Tikker** » Wed May 17, 2006 11:01 am

to look at it naively(maybe) and assume they're not bad people to start with, maybe they were just too overzealous in wiping the kids ass

it's not like they come with instruction manuals

Adivina · Post by **Adivina** » Wed May 17, 2006 12:10 pm

I feel ill now

Minrott · Post by **Minrott** » Wed May 17, 2006 12:12 pm

I gotta agree with tikker. How exactly does one go about 'raping' an infant?

Post by **Martrae** » Wed May 17, 2006 12:18 pm

You're going to a place I really don't wanna go, Min.

Unfortunately, I can think of a few ways.

Minrott · Post by **Minrott** » Wed May 17, 2006 12:20 pm

I don't believe a word of it frankly. Partly because I don't want to, but mostly because I don't consider it possible.

Jay · Post by **Jay** » Wed May 17, 2006 12:24 pm

It's enough just to charge someone of something, have no evidence behind it and have a bunch of readers assume that a rape actually took place. I'm not saying it didn't happen, there is a possibility of 2 sick minded fucks raping their baby, but there's also the possibility that someone did in fact get overzealous in the wiping of the ass. I'm curious to see what the follow up on this will turn up.

Post by **Martrae** » Wed May 17, 2006 12:32 pm

Using an object would still be considered rape.

You'd have to be pretty fucking overzealous while wiping to cause multiple tears on a newborn.

Jay · Post by **Jay** » Wed May 17, 2006 12:34 pm

Skin softens when wet, like right after a bath. Maybe dad is a big guy unaware of his own strength. I'm just saying I don't know what happened, not that this happened. I want to see what the followup on this will report.

Tikker · Post by **Tikker** » Wed May 17, 2006 1:25 pm

Martrae wrote:Using an object would still be considered rape.

they could just be stupid too

I remember the first dirty diaper my son had

it was like this black tar looking stuff that looked like it was still kinda halfway stuck up his asshole. When grandma(a registered nurse) cleaned him, she definitely pulled some out using her finger

these 2 could be dipshits, and have tried to use a spoon or something stupid, then were so embarrassed, they didn't tell anyone

Spliffs · Post by **Spliffs** » Wed May 17, 2006 5:11 pm

I don't really believe it either. You don't live a normal life up to the conception of your child and then suddenly decide you're going to rape a baby.

If the child was born at home in the bathtub i might believe it. However, these people were obviously rational enough to go to the hospital. This leads me to believe that if they *were* going to rape a baby, they would have been rational enough to leave the hospital first.

There is something missing in this story.

Post by **Martrae** » Wed May 17, 2006 5:19 pm

Boy, are you skewed in your thinking. Just because someone chooses a home birth it doesn't make them deviant.

You also are making assumptions about the so-called rationality and normalcy of the parents without any colloborating evidence besides they gave birth in a hospital.

You'd think if they used something to remove poo they'd have told SOMEONE in the 6 weeks since they lost custody of the baby.

I agree the whole story isn't there, however.

vonkaar · Post by **vonkaar** » Wed May 17, 2006 5:31 pm

You'd have to be REALLY REALLY Asian to successfully rape an infant.

:ugh:

Adivina · Post by **Adivina** » Thu May 18, 2006 7:03 am

Sorry but you don't just rip a kid's butt when wiping, it doesn't fucking happen. If it did then he was wiping hard enough that I would say it was being abusive to the kid anyway.

Spliffs that is the most off base thing I have ever heard you say....

I do agree we are not hearing the whole story here, but the idea of wiping too hard just doesn't sound right. Also you would think if they did not do anything to the child, they would have spoken up by now, like Mart said.

Evermore · Post by **Evermore** » Thu May 18, 2006 10:09 am

Just proves not everyone should be parents.

Griever · Post by **Griever** » Thu May 18, 2006 10:22 am

Tikker wrote:these 2 could be dipshits, and have tried to use a spoon or something stupid, then were so embarrassed, they didn't tell anyone

So instead they told them he used his penis??

That makes sense.

The Kizzy · Post by **The Kizzy** » Thu May 18, 2006 11:10 am

First of all, parents don't change diapers in teh hospital. Or at least I never had to with my two kids.

Secondly, when I was working at the police station in Muskegon Michigan, we had a phone call from the hospital. A baby had been brought in suffering from shaken baby syndrome, and they were just beginning tests on the baby. Asked us to send a detective over. By the time the detective got there, it had been discovered that the baby had almost choked to death, on semen. This 3 month old child had a penis shoved down his throat.

The mother and father (both young black kids) were not a couple, but she had asked him to come over and watch the baby while she went to an interview for food stamps. His story is that the baby kept crying, and wouldn't take a bottle, and he couldn't find the binky, so he used his dick as a pacifier. Yeah, that's the first thing I would think of. I was pregnant with my first son at the time, so this was more than 10 years ago. I still think of it from time to time, and I remember the way all the girls at the front desk were horrified, some of us actually cried.

THe girl who had the job of transcribing the verbal confession quit her job shortly after that. It was so sad. When they sent someone to go pick the guy up on an arrest warrant, they sent the police office for 6 kids. Some things you just can't forget.

Spliffs · Post by **Spliffs** » Thu May 18, 2006 11:21 am

Martrae wrote:Boy, are you skewed in your thinking. Just because someone chooses a home birth it doesn't make them deviant.

You also are making assumptions about the so-called rationality and normalcy of the parents without any colloborating evidence besides they gave birth in a hospital.

You'd think if they used something to remove poo they'd have told SOMEONE in the 6 weeks since they lost custody of the baby.

I agree the whole story isn't there, however.

Listen carefully, because you obviously got a bit defensive and put words in my mouth...

I didn't say choosing a home birth makes you a deviant. However, typically being a deviant makes you choose a home birth. How many of those teenage girls that threw their babies in dumpsters, went to the hospital first, then took it outside and tossed it?

If you're going to rape a baby, or beat your kids, or beat your wife, you don't typically do it while at the hospital.

Sure, maybe they are just the most moronic people ever who are physically capable to conceive. (people below the retardation line are usually sterile) However, I still don't buy the story as is.

Tikker · Post by **Tikker** » Thu May 18, 2006 11:30 am

The Kizzy wrote:First of all, parents don't change diapers in teh hospital. Or at least I never had to with my two kids.

yes, your 2 experiences must mean that the rest of us are lying about changing diapers

Insanityfair · Post by **Insanityfair** » Thu May 18, 2006 11:31 am

The Kizzy wrote:First of all, parents don't change diapers in teh hospital. Or at least I never had to with my two kids.

I know I did it with my kids, not sure if there are different rules in different hospitals or whatever, but my sons spent a lot of time in my room with me, and they had a collection of diapers and wipes in the bassinet and a drawer in the room. One of the first things they showed me with both my kids was how to change a diaper and how to bathe them.

I agree with the idea that something is missing from this story. It just doesn't add up.

The Kizzy · Post by **The Kizzy** » Thu May 18, 2006 11:33 am

I'm not saying I never changed a diaper, I am saying in the hospital they take care of all the baby stuff (except feeding) so you can rest. IT is possible that they asked to change the baby's diaper, and accidently slipped a spoon up her ass as they were trying to dislodge feces, but not probable.

Tikker · Post by **Tikker** » Thu May 18, 2006 11:36 am

The Kizzy wrote:I'm not saying I never changed a diaper, I am saying in the hospital they take care of all the baby stuff (except feeding) so you can rest. IT is possible that they asked to change the baby's diaper, and accidently slipped a spoon up her ass as they were trying to dislodge feces, but not probable.

well, you did come out and say "FACT 1 PARENTS DON'T CHANGE THE DIAPERS"

also, I'm not saying that it's probable that they cut the kid up clumsily changing the diaper

all i'm saying is that it's such a horrible thing to rape your own 1 day old daughter, that I'd like to give them the benefit of the doubt that they're just retardedly stupid