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Postby Jay » Thu Jun 01, 2006 11:50 am

Is it too late to abort Lyion?
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Postby Tikker » Thu Jun 01, 2006 11:51 am

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Zanchief wrote:I hate the term pro-life, it insinuates that if you're not, you're pro-death.
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Except thats true. You hate the truth.

I like the term baby killer, because it is so accurate.

/tangent on


except you're not killing a baby

you're terminating a microblastula

I'm all for scientifically engineering, it's actually why I went into biology in the first place

I'd love to be able to squash the Mindia gene

at least it's a recessive trait
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Postby Zanchief » Thu Jun 01, 2006 11:58 am

Jay wrote:Is it too late to abort Lyion?


I'll get the coat hanger.
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Postby Narrock » Thu Jun 01, 2006 12:14 pm

lyion wrote:
Zanchief wrote:I hate the term pro-life, it insinuates that if you're not, you're pro-death.
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Except thats true. You hate the truth.

I like the term baby killer, because it is so accurate.

/tangent on


Best bumper sticker of all time:

"Smile, your mother was PRO-LIFE"
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Postby Narrock » Thu Jun 01, 2006 12:16 pm

Tikker wrote:
lyion wrote:
Zanchief wrote:I hate the term pro-life, it insinuates that if you're not, you're pro-death.
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Except thats true. You hate the truth.

I like the term baby killer, because it is so accurate.

/tangent on


except you're not killing a baby

you're terminating a microblastula

I'm all for scientifically engineering, it's actually why I went into biology in the first place

I'd love to be able to squash the Mindia gene

at least it's a recessive trait


Yes you are a killing a baby if you abort. A fetus has a brain, heart, lungs, nerve endings and just about everything else... just not fully developed obviously. It's a good thing you pay close attention in your biology classes.
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Postby Jay » Thu Jun 01, 2006 12:19 pm

Catholics and Christians in earlier times defined life as when th baby took it's first breath. Now it's when it's an embryo?
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Postby Lyion » Thu Jun 01, 2006 12:22 pm

In earlier times we burned non believers at the stake, too. Neither were relatively good decisions, although the more Zan posts, the more I like the stake idea.
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Postby Donnel » Thu Jun 01, 2006 12:22 pm

Psalm 139: 13-14

13 For you created my inmost being;
you knit me together in my mother's womb.

14 I praise you because I am fearfully and wonderfully made;
your works are wonderful,
I know that full well.
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Postby Zanchief » Thu Jun 01, 2006 12:24 pm

lyion wrote:In earlier times we burned non believers at the stake, too. Neither were relatively good decisions, although the more Zan posts, the more I like the stake idea.


With that sense of humour you must be a real winner at the parties.
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Postby Agrajag » Thu Jun 01, 2006 12:24 pm

Narrock wrote:Yes you are a killing a baby if you abort. A fetus has a brain, heart, lungs, nerve endings and just about everything else... just not fully developed obviously. It's a good thing you pay close attention in your biology classes.


But, in the first trimester, when it is legal to abort a fetus, that so-called "life" cannot live outside the mother's womb on it's own. Therefor, it shouldn't be considered alive or a "life" of it's own. It is still a growth, like a tumor, of the mother.

Narrock wrote:"Smile, your mother was PRO-LIFE"


When I see this bumper sticker all I wish is that someone would make one that says, "YOUR MOTHER SHOULD HAVE HAD AN ABORTION." I'd put that bitch on my car and drive real slow in front of the people with the first bumper sticker!
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Postby Darcler » Thu Jun 01, 2006 12:25 pm

Jay wrote:Catholics and Christians in earlier times defined life as when th baby took it's first breath. Now it's when it's an embryo?


It's all personal preference. There is no set guideline of the belief.
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Postby Narrock » Thu Jun 01, 2006 12:26 pm

Agrajag wrote:
Narrock wrote:Yes you are a killing a baby if you abort. A fetus has a brain, heart, lungs, nerve endings and just about everything else... just not fully developed obviously. It's a good thing you pay close attention in your biology classes.


But, in the first trimester, when it is legal to abort a fetus, that so-called "life" cannot live outside the mother's womb on it's own. Therefor, it shouldn't be considered alive or a "life" of it's own. It is still a growth, like a tumor, of the mother.

Narrock wrote:"Smile, your mother was PRO-LIFE"


When I see this bumper sticker all I wish is that someone would make one that says, "YOUR MOTHER SHOULD HAVE HAD AN ABORTION." I'd put that bitch on my car and drive real slow in front of the people with the first bumper sticker!


:ugh:

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Postby Narrock » Thu Jun 01, 2006 12:27 pm

Zanchief wrote:
lyion wrote:In earlier times we burned non believers at the stake, too. Neither were relatively good decisions, although the more Zan posts, the more I like the stake idea.


With that sense of humour you must be a real winner at the parties.


I bet Lyion would be a lot more interesting to talk to at a party than you. I'm just guessing though.
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Postby Darcler » Thu Jun 01, 2006 12:28 pm

Because he hates gays?
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Postby Narrock » Thu Jun 01, 2006 12:29 pm

Darcler wrote:Because he hates gays?


No, because he's cultured, and multi-lingual. Zanchief is about as cultured as a sterile petrie dish.
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Postby Zanchief » Thu Jun 01, 2006 12:29 pm

Narrock wrote:
Zanchief wrote:
lyion wrote:In earlier times we burned non believers at the stake, too. Neither were relatively good decisions, although the more Zan posts, the more I like the stake idea.


With that sense of humour you must be a real winner at the parties.


I bet Lyion would be a lot more interesting to talk to at a party than you. I'm just guessing though.


I'm sure he's glad he has your support Mindia.
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Postby Narrock » Thu Jun 01, 2006 12:31 pm

Zanchief wrote:
Narrock wrote:
Zanchief wrote:
lyion wrote:In earlier times we burned non believers at the stake, too. Neither were relatively good decisions, although the more Zan posts, the more I like the stake idea.


With that sense of humour you must be a real winner at the parties.


I bet Lyion would be a lot more interesting to talk to at a party than you. I'm just guessing though.


I'm sure he's glad he has your support Mindia.


Why, thank you sir ;)
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Postby Zanchief » Thu Jun 01, 2006 12:31 pm

Narrock wrote:
Darcler wrote:Because he hates gays?


No, because he's cultured, and multi-lingual. Zanchief is about as cultured as a sterile petrie dish.


Vraiment? Et tout ce temps je pensais que je parlai deux langues.
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Postby Narrock » Thu Jun 01, 2006 12:32 pm

French doesn't count, because the French suck.
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Postby Agrajag » Thu Jun 01, 2006 12:32 pm

Darcler wrote:Because he hates gays?


I never said I hated gays. That may have been what many of the posters that are quick to judge gathered from my posts (like you). I just don't AGREE with their lifestyle. Disagreeing with someone and hating them are two different things.
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Postby Darcler » Thu Jun 01, 2006 12:34 pm

Narrock wrote:
Darcler wrote:Because he hates gays?


No, because he's cultured, and multi-lingual. Zanchief is about as cultured as a sterile petrie dish.


Sorry, I was referring to your comment to Arajajerorgjsomething. You ninja posted though :wink:

And Zan is Canadian. He has to be somewhat multilingual. Fucking French....
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Postby Narrock » Thu Jun 01, 2006 12:36 pm

I'll bet Zan's French is only minimally-conversational, and very very far removed from being "fluent." Big deal. My Spanish is about as good as Zan's French. Oh, I know some German too. :wink:
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Postby Zanchief » Thu Jun 01, 2006 12:40 pm

I went to French elementary school and highschool, dweeb.
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Postby Darcler » Thu Jun 01, 2006 12:40 pm

Agrajag wrote:
Darcler wrote:Because he hates gays?


I never said I hated gays. That may have been what many of the posters that are quick to judge gathered from my posts (like you). I just don't AGREE with their lifestyle. Disagreeing with someone and hating them are two different things.


Oh that's right. I was thinking of the true hater being....and now I've forgotten. Oh, Mark. (Dont deny it Mark).

I really only skimmed that thread anyway to refrain from posting in it :)
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Postby Narrock » Thu Jun 01, 2006 12:41 pm

Zanchief wrote:I went to French elementary school and highschool, dweeb.


Do you have one of those typical extremely annoying and unattractive French accents?
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