Industrial Strength Router

Post by **Lyion** » Thu Jul 13, 2006 2:57 pm

Ok, I've been using WRT-54Gs for the last few years at home, and they seem to quit working after a while. This isn't suitable for me since I telecommute from home and need them up all the time.

Any networking types know of a good industrial strength router that I can plug in and forget about for years?

I've had decent luck with the Linksys but they seem to go belly up or start to get flaky after a while, which I'm tired of.

Captain Insano · Post by **Captain Insano** » Thu Jul 13, 2006 3:37 pm

I pulled this from my Tech Data account for ya: Cisco Router for 188 bucks.

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- Cisco Small Business 101 Secure Broadband Router - Router + 4-port switch - EN, Fast EN
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Tech Data Description: CISCO SMALL BUSINESS 107 ETH BROADBAND RTR
The Cisco Small Business Series of secure broadband routers addresses the needs of small businesses, providing affordable, easy-to-use, and secure broadband access for data-only applications. Setup is simple with Web-based tools and remote management is possible with features in Cisco IOS Software that allow value-added resellers or service providers to centrally manage the routers. The Cisco Small Business Series gives small business customers a new option from Cisco - secure, managed Internet access at an affordable price.

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TD Part Number Manufacturer Number UPC Number MSRP Status Alternate Part Number
47310A CISCOSB101-K9 882658015465 $279.00 Active N/A
Main Specifications
Product Description Cisco Small Business 101 Secure Broadband Router - router
Device Type Router + 4-port switch (integrated)
Form Factor External
Dimensions (WxDxH) 9.7 in x 8.5 in x 2 in
Weight 1.5 lbs
RAM 64 MB (installed) / 64 MB (max)
Flash Memory 12 MB (installed) / 12 MB (max)
Routing Protocol RIP-1, RIP-2
Data Link Protocol Ethernet, Fast Ethernet
Network / Transport Protocol PPTP, L2TP, IPSec, PPPoE, PPPoA
Remote Management Protocol SNMP, Telnet, HTTP
Features Firewall protection, DHCP support, NAT support, PAT support, ARP support, auto-uplink, dynamic DNS server
Compliant Standards IEEE 802.1D
Power AC 120/230 V ( 50/60 Hz )
General
Device Type Router
Form Factor External
Width 9.7 in
Depth 8.5 in
Height 2 in
Weight 1.5 lbs
Memory
RAM 64 MB (installed) / 64 MB (max)
Flash Memory 12 MB (installed) / 12 MB (max)
Networking
Connectivity Technology Wired
Integrated Switch 4-port switch
Data Link Protocol Ethernet, Fast Ethernet
Switching Protocol Ethernet
Network / Transport Protocol PPTP, L2TP, IPSec, PPPoE, PPPoA
Routing Protocol RIP-1, RIP-2
Remote Management Protocol SNMP, Telnet, HTTP
Status Indicators Link activity
Features Firewall protection, DHCP support, NAT support, PAT support, ARP support, auto-uplink, dynamic DNS server
Compliant Standards IEEE 802.1D
Expansion / Connectivity
Interfaces 1 x network - Ethernet 10Base-T - RJ-45 ( WAN )
4 x network - Ethernet 10Base-T/100Base-TX - RJ-45
Miscellaneous
Authentication Method Secure Shell (SSH), RADIUS, PAP, CHAP, TACACS+, MS-CHAP, Secure Shell v.2 (SSH2), MS-CHAP v.2
Compliant Standards ETSI, VCCI Class B ITE, EN 60950, IEC 61000-3-2, IEC 61000-4-2, IEC 61000-4-3, IEC 61000-4-4, IEC950, EN55022 Class B, ICES-003 Class B, ACA TS001, AS/NZS 3260, EN 61000-4-4, EN 61000-4-2, JATE, UL 1950 Third Edition, CSA 22.2 No. 950 Third Edition, EN 60555-2, FCC CFR47 Part 68
Power
Power Device Power adapter - external
Voltage Required AC 120/230 V ( 50/60 Hz )
Power Consumption Operational 10 Watt
Environmental Parameters
Min Operating Temperature 32 Â°F
Max Operating Temperature 104 Â°F
Humidity Range Operating 10 - 85%

Post by **Gidan** » Thu Jul 13, 2006 4:36 pm

Yeah that

Minrott · Post by **Minrott** » Thu Jul 13, 2006 5:10 pm

<img src=http://www.northerntool.com/images/product/images/1591979_lg.jpg>

There you go.

Tikker · Post by **Tikker** » Fri Jul 14, 2006 8:11 am

you can build a pretty decent router with freeware out of an old PC

that being said

I've got 2 routers at home, both linksys

a wrt54g for the wireless AP (it's not actually doing any routing)

and I've got a BEFSX41 for the actual router

i've had it for about 4 years now, and have had absolutely 0 issues with it. 13+ months uptime up on it atm

that being said, you can pick up old cisco 1700 and 2900 series routers for dirt cheap off ebay now adays

they're louder than a jet engine, but if you have an out of the way spot for them, they're good stuff

Post by **Gidan** » Fri Jul 14, 2006 8:21 am

I have 2 dLinks, the older one has to be powercycled every week or so because wireless drops though regular routing keeps going. I personally wouldn't recomend it though if your looking for something good.

Cisco is the best if you have the $$

Trielelvan · Post by **Trielelvan** » Fri Jul 14, 2006 10:33 am

Minrott wrote:<img src=http://www.northerntool.com/images/product/images/1591979_lg.jpg>

There you go.

powa~

Tikker · Post by **Tikker** » Fri Jul 14, 2006 10:54 am

gidan wrote:I have 2 dLinks, the older one has to be powercycled every week or so because wireless drops though regular routing keeps going. I personally wouldn't recomend it though if your looking for something good.

Cisco is the best if you have the $$

dlink (with the exception of the 4300) are absolute shit

i've had to RMA all 5 i've had (or picked up for others)

Post by **Lyion** » Fri Jul 14, 2006 10:57 am

Hmm, I may look at that Cisco Router, since it's under 200 bones. Didn't Cisco just buy Linksys? This isn't a repackaged Linksys I hope.

Tikker · Post by **Tikker** » Fri Jul 14, 2006 10:59 am

cisco bought linksys 2 or 3 years ago

which firmware are you running on your wrt54g?

dd-wrt is really pretty good

Post by **Lyion** » Fri Jul 14, 2006 11:12 am

Tikker wrote:cisco bought linksys 2 or 3 years ago

which firmware are you running on your wrt54g?

dd-wrt is really pretty good

I'm just running the default firmware. A while back I played around with a variant on my previous WRT-54G but haven't this time around.

They work fine for a year or 18 months, then get flakier and flakier. I guess that's what one gets for a cheap piece of hardware.

I'd like something I can plug in and forget about.

Post by **Martrae** » Fri Jul 14, 2006 11:29 am

Yeah, my phone router has been acting funky lately. It's been about a year for it.

Post by **Arlos** » Fri Jul 14, 2006 12:02 pm

Why not go onto Ebay and get yourself a Cisco 2500 or, if you really want some beef, a 3600?

-Arlos

Captain Insano · Post by **Captain Insano** » Sat Jul 15, 2006 3:42 pm

gidan wrote:I have 2 dLinks, the older one has to be powercycled every week or so because wireless drops though regular routing keeps going. I personally wouldn't recomend it though if your looking for something good.

Cisco is the best if you have the $$

that cisco is like 188 bucks... You can probably find it cheaper elsewhere too. Compared to spending 50 bucks on a shit linkys I don't see why more people don't cough up the extra cash.

Linksys = 50 dollar paperweights. Fuck that entire brand.

Post by **Arlos** » Sat Jul 15, 2006 3:46 pm

You can find a 3600 for 2-300 bucks on Ebay, and I guarantee you that that'll be more router than you ever need. Given that I've seen a 3600 (fully tricked out, I grant you) handle BGP to 2 seperate ISPs at the same time, I guarantee there's not a damn thing you could throw at it in home use that would even make it hiccup. Given that multimillion dollar business depend on them for their entire livelyhood (WebEx used some 3600s), methinks it fits your requirement for "industrial strength". Of course, Configuration'll be a bit trickier, but hey... heh.

-Arlos

Drem · Post by **Drem** » Sat Jul 15, 2006 3:56 pm

Captain Insano wrote:Linksys = 50 dollar paperweights. Fuck that entire brand.

Harrison · Post by **Harrison** » Sat Jul 15, 2006 3:58 pm

I honestly love my Netgear, it has never given me shit and is 5+ years old.

Post by **Gidan** » Sat Jul 15, 2006 4:17 pm

For home use, almost anything will work. Though I am guessing he is looking for something a bit more solid.

If you willing to put $$ into it, you could also consider a Juniper, 5 series I would think. Our network has Cisco and Juniper routers and is about as sold as you can get and is probably one of if not the most data intensensive networks (non military) in the world.

Post by **Lyion** » Sat Jul 15, 2006 4:43 pm

I actually have Cisco IOS manuals for when I was an IT Director, I can configure one given enough time and google searching.

The Juniper ones look good but seem very costly.

Post by **Gidan** » Sat Jul 15, 2006 4:51 pm

Juniper is really the only company that I think can compete with Cisco quality wise. We use the Juniper M20's as our border routers, and behind them we use Cisco 6500's

Captain Insano · Post by **Captain Insano** » Sat Jul 15, 2006 5:24 pm

Harrison wrote:I honestly love my Netgear, it has never given me shit and is 5+ years old.

Netgear is my favorite commercial brand. If you keep your network homogenous with all Netgear brand equipment the stuff runs great.

Harrison · Post by **Harrison** » Sat Jul 15, 2006 11:13 pm

This router is a fucking monster, I couldn't fuck it up if I tried (on home-use)

Drem · Post by **Drem** » Sat Jul 15, 2006 11:55 pm

i like Belkin

Captain Insano · Post by **Captain Insano** » Sun Jul 16, 2006 12:44 am

belkins N and MIMO wireless is total dogshit.

Tikker · Post by **Tikker** » Sun Jul 16, 2006 8:33 pm

Captain Insano wrote:
gidan wrote:I have 2 dLinks, the older one has to be powercycled every week or so because wireless drops though regular routing keeps going. I personally wouldn't recomend it though if your looking for something good.

Cisco is the best if you have the $$

that cisco is like 188 bucks... You can probably find it cheaper elsewhere too. Compared to spending 50 bucks on a shit linkys I don't see why more people don't cough up the extra cash.

Linksys = 50 dollar paperweights. Fuck that entire brand.

no, it's just the firmware that sucks

seriously, stick dd-wrt on a wrt54g and you have almost all the functionality of a $3k cisco router

as for cisco

we're ripping out a huge portion of our cisco core (6509's, 7609's, some 12012's etc) and replacing them all with Alcatel boxes