Sorry I haven't responded to this post too busy at work but I did want to take direct you guys who have any interest to google vietnam war myths and do your own research.
As for Israel, I doubt they will try to reoccupy Lebenon as they learned their lessons about hostile occupation the first time. I think they will revert to just fire bombing the southern half and leaving it uninhabitable as a buffered "waste" zone.
Israel is...
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The Hezbollah believe you have it comming too Tuggan.
Raymond S. Kraft wrote:The history of the world is the history of civilizational clashes, cultural clashes. All wars are about ideas, ideas about what society and civilization should be like, and the most determined always win.
Those who are willing to be the most ruthless always win. The pacifists always lose, because the anti-pacifists kill them.
Hes not saying hez is right dude hes saying the jews arent innocent wich is 100 % true. They terrorize a whole region then whine and cry if they get attacked back by lesser means than a fully stocked army . Then instead of ever saying whats going on they allways come up with OH THEY ARE TRYING TO DRIVE THE JEWS TO THE SEA... and theres a lot more to it than that.FOR THE MOST PART People really dont just go apeshit and start blowing shit up for no reason ya know. Ive wanted to see isreal get owned any way possible since they ran an AMERICAN girl over with a bulldozer. I dont like hezbolah in the slightest but i wont cheer isreal on for acting the same as the terrorists they condem.
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Why Immortal technique?
Perhaps its because I am afraid and he gives me courage.
Why Immortal technique?
Perhaps its because I am afraid and he gives me courage.
The last time Hezbollah captured Israeli soldiers, in order to trade, Israel wound up trading for their bodies.
What would you have them do?
I feel bad for Lebanon. I feel bad for the Lebonize people like the Druze who want nothing to do with Hezbollahs holy war. But damned if I'll condem Israel for doing the only thing they can.
If Mexico were to cross the Texas border and capture (kidnap) 2 border patrolmen what would you have us do?
Israel agreed to the Clinton talks for peace at Camp David. Israel pulled out of the West bank. Israel has made concessions for the last 6 years trying to appease the Muslims of the region. What has it gotten them? Haifa being shelled by rocket attacks, kidnapped soldiers who were on israeli soil and suicide Palestinian scum blowing themselves up coming from the very ground Israel gave back.
Let go of the reigns and let them do what the need to do to secure their borders.
What would you have them do?
I feel bad for Lebanon. I feel bad for the Lebonize people like the Druze who want nothing to do with Hezbollahs holy war. But damned if I'll condem Israel for doing the only thing they can.
If Mexico were to cross the Texas border and capture (kidnap) 2 border patrolmen what would you have us do?
Israel agreed to the Clinton talks for peace at Camp David. Israel pulled out of the West bank. Israel has made concessions for the last 6 years trying to appease the Muslims of the region. What has it gotten them? Haifa being shelled by rocket attacks, kidnapped soldiers who were on israeli soil and suicide Palestinian scum blowing themselves up coming from the very ground Israel gave back.
Let go of the reigns and let them do what the need to do to secure their borders.
Molon Labe
Israel could completely level Lebanon if they wanted. They strategically hit targets attacking them, in a powerul display of control.
If Hez could destroy all of Israel, it'd already be done.
Israel is a transparent democracy fighting for survival. Hezbollah is a gang of lawless thugs who kidnap, torture, and kill innocents and launch rockets at civilian populace haphazardly.
There is no basis of comparison. Condemn Israel for overreacting, if you choose but do not compare the two groups.
Then again, some here compare the U.S. to the Nazis so I guess I shouldn't be surprised.
If Hez could destroy all of Israel, it'd already be done.
Israel is a transparent democracy fighting for survival. Hezbollah is a gang of lawless thugs who kidnap, torture, and kill innocents and launch rockets at civilian populace haphazardly.
There is no basis of comparison. Condemn Israel for overreacting, if you choose but do not compare the two groups.
Then again, some here compare the U.S. to the Nazis so I guess I shouldn't be surprised.
What saves a man is to take a step. Then another step.
– C. S. Lewis
– C. S. Lewis
spazz wrote:Hes not saying hez is right dude hes saying the jews arent innocent wich is 100 % true. They terrorize a whole region then whine and cry if they get attacked back by lesser means than a fully stocked army . Then instead of ever saying whats going on they allways come up with OH THEY ARE TRYING TO DRIVE THE JEWS TO THE SEA... and theres a lot more to it than that.FOR THE MOST PART People really dont just go apeshit and start blowing shit up for no reason ya know. Ive wanted to see isreal get owned any way possible since they ran an AMERICAN girl over with a bulldozer. I dont like hezbolah in the slightest but i wont cheer isreal on for acting the same as the terrorists they condem.
Israel terrorizes the whole region? They're surrounded by enemies on every border that would like nothing better than to murder, rape, and destroy everything Israeli or Jewish.
Their "terrorizing" is nothing more than you being 100%, completely clueless as to what's been going on there since 1960 onward.
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Harrison wrote:spazz wrote:Hes not saying hez is right dude hes saying the jews arent innocent wich is 100 % true. They terrorize a whole region then whine and cry if they get attacked back by lesser means than a fully stocked army . Then instead of ever saying whats going on they allways come up with OH THEY ARE TRYING TO DRIVE THE JEWS TO THE SEA... and theres a lot more to it than that.FOR THE MOST PART People really dont just go apeshit and start blowing shit up for no reason ya know. Ive wanted to see isreal get owned any way possible since they ran an AMERICAN girl over with a bulldozer. I dont like hezbolah in the slightest but i wont cheer isreal on for acting the same as the terrorists they condem.
Israel terrorizes the whole region? They're surrounded by enemies on every border that would like nothing better than to murder, rape, and destroy everything Israeli or Jewish.
Their "terrorizing" is nothing more than you being 100%, completely clueless as to what's been going on there since 1960 onward.
Or whatever year Spazz was born. By his posts, I'm guessing that would be around 1995 or so.
“The more I study science the more I believe in God.” -- Albert Einstein
to try and derail the current unnecessary argument, i thusly pose a question.
two coworkers and i were talking about the whole mess yesterday, and one of the guys wasn't very knowledgeable about the area in general. the conversation was mostly between me, a dove, and gene, a guy who started out hawk but is leaning more and more to the dove side every day. kyle suddenly asked "why do we [as a country] care so much about israel anyway?" the conversation suddenly ground to a halt, as neither gene nor i could think of an official reason why our government is so blindly supportive of israel. american zionism is a primary basis for anti-american sentiments throughout the arab world, and one of the driving forces that led to both WTC attacks.
i believe every nation, ethnic group, religious group, social group, etc deserves to live in peace, and in this case Hezbollah was clearly the aggressor-- but that's MY answer to the question. what's the USA's official answer? is there one? if "protecting innocent people from aggression" is our answer, then why just israel? there are a dozen or so other wars going on all over the world. which side are we on in the civil war in Ivory Coast? which pony gets our applause in the Darfur battle royale, which a reuters poll declared "the world's most dangerous place for children"?
i don't want israel to get shitcanned any more than ganzo does, but our unwavering support has undeniably made us a crapload of enemies. so why do we do it? is there anything in it for us besides a warm fuzzy feeling?
two coworkers and i were talking about the whole mess yesterday, and one of the guys wasn't very knowledgeable about the area in general. the conversation was mostly between me, a dove, and gene, a guy who started out hawk but is leaning more and more to the dove side every day. kyle suddenly asked "why do we [as a country] care so much about israel anyway?" the conversation suddenly ground to a halt, as neither gene nor i could think of an official reason why our government is so blindly supportive of israel. american zionism is a primary basis for anti-american sentiments throughout the arab world, and one of the driving forces that led to both WTC attacks.
i believe every nation, ethnic group, religious group, social group, etc deserves to live in peace, and in this case Hezbollah was clearly the aggressor-- but that's MY answer to the question. what's the USA's official answer? is there one? if "protecting innocent people from aggression" is our answer, then why just israel? there are a dozen or so other wars going on all over the world. which side are we on in the civil war in Ivory Coast? which pony gets our applause in the Darfur battle royale, which a reuters poll declared "the world's most dangerous place for children"?
i don't want israel to get shitcanned any more than ganzo does, but our unwavering support has undeniably made us a crapload of enemies. so why do we do it? is there anything in it for us besides a warm fuzzy feeling?
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