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Drinking a liquid from an animal seems very gross to me. If I have milk, it's always soy milk.
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Narrock wrote:Drinking a liquid from an animal seems very gross to me. If I have milk, it's always soy milk.


Hrm, who's gonna take the honors on this one?
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Donnel wrote:
Narrock wrote:Drinking a liquid from an animal seems very gross to me. If I have milk, it's always soy milk.


Hrm, who's gonna take the honors on this one?


It's true man. Drinking milk from a cow is a disgusting thought, imo.
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No, I got it. I was just trying to get him to reflect on it for a moment.
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Narrock wrote:
It's true man. Drinking man-milk from a cowboy seems very umm umm good to me, imo.
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soy milk has been shown to cause problems too

soy and thyroid

Isoflavones, the key components of soy that make them so potent as a posible substitute for hormone replacement, mean that soy products, while touted as foods and nutritional products -- often are used and act as like a hormonal drug.


FDA's Soy Experts Speak Out Against Soy

"there is abundant evidence that some of the isoflavones found in soy, including genistein and equol, a metabolize of daidzen, demonstrate toxicity in estrogen sensitive tissues and in the thyroid. This is true for a number of species, including humans.

Additionally, isoflavones are inhibitors of the thyroid peroxidase which makes T3 and T4. Inhibition can be expected to generate thyroid abnormalities, including goiter and autoimmune thyroiditis. There exists a significant body of animal data that demonstrates goitrogenic and even carcinogenic effects of soy products. Moreover, there are significant reports of goitrogenic effects from soy consumption in human infants and adults."


soy and breast cancer/estrogen

Claims, Benefits: A "natural" way to replenish the aging body's declining estrogen levels and thus relieve menopausal symptoms, such as hot flashes, as well as decrease the risk of heart disease and osteoporosis, without promoting breast cancer.


Like pretty much anything, this isn't saying soy is bad, or will cause any health problems, but it does increase the risk, and people with existing thyroid problems should be very careful
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See.....nutritional information changes all the time.

Eggs are good...no they're bad!
Milk is good...no it's bad!
Enriched white bread is the best cuz it's full of vitamins! No, whole grain is best cuz it's full of fiber!

See what I mean?
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No one becomes 400lbs from eating enriched white bread though Mart. Specifics may change, but common sense pretty much stays the same.
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I'd argue semantics..but for the most part you're right. :)

When I was young cooking in lard was common. My grandmothers did it all the time. Then came the 'oh noes, lard is bad, butter is bad, mmkay'. So margarine became common.

Quite honestly, when people ate butter and cooked with lard there was less of a weight problem. It's the overrefining of natural substances that's bad. Processed packaged ready to go crap with absolutely no redeeming qualities except it's quick, that's the main weight culprit nowadays, IMO .
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Martrae wrote:I'd argue semantics..but for the most part you're right. :)

When I was young cooking in lard was common. My grandmothers did it all the time. Then came the 'oh noes, lard is bad, butter is bad, mmkay'. So margarine became common.

Quite honestly, when people ate butter and cooked with lard there was less of a weight problem. It's the overrefining of natural substances that's bad. Processed packaged ready to go crap with absolutely no redeeming qualities except it's quick, that's the main weight culprit nowadays, IMO .


I'd agree with the latter part of this and not only because it's probably 100% true but because I was also raised on lard (hah) and everything was pretty much home-made. I remember when instant mashed potatoes came out and my mom was like, "WTF is this shit??" There was no box macaroni, etc..and in my experience, eating foods with all of the preservatives and everything else tends to upset my stomach, where fresh food does not.
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Snero wrote:soy milk has been shown to cause problems too

soy and thyroid

Isoflavones, the key components of soy that make them so potent as a posible substitute for hormone replacement, mean that soy products, while touted as foods and nutritional products -- often are used and act as like a hormonal drug.


FDA's Soy Experts Speak Out Against Soy

"there is abundant evidence that some of the isoflavones found in soy, including genistein and equol, a metabolize of daidzen, demonstrate toxicity in estrogen sensitive tissues and in the thyroid. This is true for a number of species, including humans.

Additionally, isoflavones are inhibitors of the thyroid peroxidase which makes T3 and T4. Inhibition can be expected to generate thyroid abnormalities, including goiter and autoimmune thyroiditis. There exists a significant body of animal data that demonstrates goitrogenic and even carcinogenic effects of soy products. Moreover, there are significant reports of goitrogenic effects from soy consumption in human infants and adults."


soy and breast cancer/estrogen

Claims, Benefits: A "natural" way to replenish the aging body's declining estrogen levels and thus relieve menopausal symptoms, such as hot flashes, as well as decrease the risk of heart disease and osteoporosis, without promoting breast cancer.


Like pretty much anything, this isn't saying soy is bad, or will cause any health problems, but it does increase the risk, and people with existing thyroid problems should be very careful


I don't drink that much soy milk anyway.
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I would like some milk from the milk mans wife's tits
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Dylan wrote:I would like some milk from the milk mans wife's tits


Aren't you gay?
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Nothing wrong with getting some good milk though.

Also, its a song.
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Dylan wrote:Nothing wrong with getting some good milk though.

Also, its a song.


Oh, I'm a little slow with that kinda stuff.
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Snero wrote:soy milk has been shown to cause problems too

soy and thyroid

Isoflavones, the key components of soy that make them so potent as a posible substitute for hormone replacement, mean that soy products, while touted as foods and nutritional products -- often are used and act as like a hormonal drug.


FDA's Soy Experts Speak Out Against Soy

"there is abundant evidence that some of the isoflavones found in soy, including genistein and equol, a metabolize of daidzen, demonstrate toxicity in estrogen sensitive tissues and in the thyroid. This is true for a number of species, including humans.

Additionally, isoflavones are inhibitors of the thyroid peroxidase which makes T3 and T4. Inhibition can be expected to generate thyroid abnormalities, including goiter and autoimmune thyroiditis. There exists a significant body of animal data that demonstrates goitrogenic and even carcinogenic effects of soy products. Moreover, there are significant reports of goitrogenic effects from soy consumption in human infants and adults."


soy and breast cancer/estrogen

Claims, Benefits: A "natural" way to replenish the aging body's declining estrogen levels and thus relieve menopausal symptoms, such as hot flashes, as well as decrease the risk of heart disease and osteoporosis, without promoting breast cancer.


Like pretty much anything, this isn't saying soy is bad, or will cause any health problems, but it does increase the risk, and people with existing thyroid problems should be very careful


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I don't think drinking anything out there will cause that much shrinkage.
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Depends. Are you asian?
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Jay wrote:Depends. Are you asian?


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boat? ocean? what?
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Zanchief wrote:
Dylan wrote:Nothing wrong with getting some good milk though.

Also, its a song.


Oh, I'm a little slow with that kinda stuff.


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