Are all black men chauvenistic pigs?

[Narrock]

In your line of thinking every other person at Home Depot should be the ones suing if you were hired. Why should they HAVE to work weekends just so you don't have to because of your religion? That's discrimination.

Take it to court, they will probably hire you, schedule you to work, and after about 3 times of not showing up on the weekend you would get fired for not following your schedule.

That doesn't make any sense.

[Sithos]

I own a firm. This firm does business 24/7.I expect my employees to be available for their set schedules. I dont want to have to either hire 2 people to do the job of 1 or screw another worker outta their weekends. Not to mention the fact that you are basically trying to force an employeer to work sround your schedule. Fri-Sat still have to be covered regardless. So because of your religion someone has to be hired part time to do the fri-sat. Or someone else has to have their schedule rearranged and end up working weekends constantly because they dont subscribe to your particular religion?

If their is any discrimination going on it's from you."I want this job,but I cant work fri-sat due to my religious beliefs. Therefore I want you to rearrange the schedules of your employees or hire a part time replacement to accomdate me, or I can sue you for discrimination"

They were right not to hire you. I sure would not have.

[The Kizzy]

In your line of thinking every other person at Home Depot should be the ones suing if you were hired. Why should they HAVE to work weekends just so you don't have to because of your religion? That's discrimination.

Take it to court, they will probably hire you, schedule you to work, and after about 3 times of not showing up on the weekend you would get fired for not following your schedule.

That doesn't make any sense.

Now you know how the rest of us feel

[Narrock]

I own a firm. This firm does business 24/7.I expect my employees to be available for their set schedules. I dont want to have to either hire 2 people to do the job of 1 or screw another worker outta their weekends. Not to mention the fact that you are basically trying to force an employeer to work sround your schedule. Fri-Sat still have to be covered regardless. So because of your religion someone has to be hired part time to do the fri-sat. Or someone else has to have their schedule rearranged and end up working weekends constantly because they dont subscribe to your particular religion?

If their is any discrimination going on it's from you."I want this job,but I cant work fri-sat due to my religious beliefs. Therefore I want you to rearrange the schedules of your employees or hire a part time replacement to accomdate me, or I can sue you for discrimination"

They were right not to hire you. I sure would not have.

Many employers have tried to play that card, and lost in court.

[Narrock]

In your line of thinking every other person at Home Depot should be the ones suing if you were hired. Why should they HAVE to work weekends just so you don't have to because of your religion? That's discrimination.

Take it to court, they will probably hire you, schedule you to work, and after about 3 times of not showing up on the weekend you would get fired for not following your schedule.

That doesn't make any sense.

Now you know how the rest of us feel

I'm sorry you disagree with the law, Kizzy.

[The Kizzy]

I followed your link, he had already worked there for 15 years before a new boss came in and told him NOPE, you have to work on weekends. Home Depot is telling you upfront that they are expecting you to fulfill a schedule before tehy even hire you.

[KILL]

I own a firm. This firm does business 24/7.I expect my employees to be available for their set schedules. I dont want to have to either hire 2 people to do the job of 1 or screw another worker outta their weekends. Not to mention the fact that you are basically trying to force an employeer to work sround your schedule. Fri-Sat still have to be covered regardless. So because of your religion someone has to be hired part time to do the fri-sat. Or someone else has to have their schedule rearranged and end up working weekends constantly because they dont subscribe to your particular religion?

If their is any discrimination going on it's from you."I want this job,but I cant work fri-sat due to my religious beliefs. Therefore I want you to rearrange the schedules of your employees or hire a part time replacement to accomdate me, or I can sue you for discrimination"

They were right not to hire you. I sure would not have.

Many employers have tried to play that card, and lost in court.

name one

[Narrock]

I followed your link, he had already worked there for 15 years before a new boss came in and told him NOPE, you have to work on weekends. Home Depot is telling you upfront that they are expecting you to fulfill a schedule before tehy even hire you.

Doesn't matter. It's still discrimination. They might as well say, "sorry you're black... we can't hire you." It's the same thing.

[Narrock]

I own a firm. This firm does business 24/7.I expect my employees to be available for their set schedules. I dont want to have to either hire 2 people to do the job of 1 or screw another worker outta their weekends. Not to mention the fact that you are basically trying to force an employeer to work sround your schedule. Fri-Sat still have to be covered regardless. So because of your religion someone has to be hired part time to do the fri-sat. Or someone else has to have their schedule rearranged and end up working weekends constantly because they dont subscribe to your particular religion?

If their is any discrimination going on it's from you."I want this job,but I cant work fri-sat due to my religious beliefs. Therefore I want you to rearrange the schedules of your employees or hire a part time replacement to accomdate me, or I can sue you for discrimination"

They were right not to hire you. I sure would not have.

Many employers have tried to play that card, and lost in court.

name one

ROFL click the link I posted.

[Gidan]

I should sue target, They refused to hire me because I wasn't available on weekends. I can just say it was religious reasons. Hell I could make a full time job of it. Just apply to everyplace under the sun. If they hire me, then quit, if they dont sue.

It's lame to lie about it. There are many, many examples I can provide to show you that it is indeed discrimination, and employers are taking an expensive gamble by discriminating against someone because of their religious beliefs. Here's one example:

http://news.adventist.org/data/2001/06/ ... ex.html.en

There are tons of suits just like this. Do a Google search and find out for yourself. Now, if you disagree with the law, that's one thing. But you cannot say it's not discrimination, because it absolutely is (without question) a blatant discriminatory act that can have severe repercussions.

You really don’t get it do you. It has nothing to do with your religion. Stop for just a minute and realize, the average person doesn't give a shit about your religion. They are a business; they want people available on weekends. Why should they fill one of their limited job spots with someone who can’t work at the time they need when they have plenty of people willing to work when they need them to work?

So how can you gaurantee it was because of your religion?

[Zanchief]

I'm gonna start a "needs a hammock in the workplace" religion that can't work more then 45 minutes at a time.

DISCRIMINATION I SAY!

[Narrock]

I should sue target, They refused to hire me because I wasn't available on weekends. I can just say it was religious reasons. Hell I could make a full time job of it. Just apply to everyplace under the sun. If they hire me, then quit, if they dont sue.

It's lame to lie about it. There are many, many examples I can provide to show you that it is indeed discrimination, and employers are taking an expensive gamble by discriminating against someone because of their religious beliefs. Here's one example:

http://news.adventist.org/data/2001/06/ ... ex.html.en

There are tons of suits just like this. Do a Google search and find out for yourself. Now, if you disagree with the law, that's one thing. But you cannot say it's not discrimination, because it absolutely is (without question) a blatant discriminatory act that can have severe repercussions.

You really don’t get it do you. It has nothing to do with your religion. Stop for just a minute and realize, the average person doesn't give a shit about your religion. They are a business; they want people available on weekends. Why should they fill one of their limited job spots with someone who can’t work at the time they need when they have plenty of people willing to work when they need them to work?

So how can you gaurantee it was because of your religion?

You're the one who doesn't get it. The law is the law. It protects religious beliefs and practices. If they need someone to work sundown Friday to sundown Saturday then they can hire someone to work that schedule, but they cannot deny employment because someone will not work on the Sabbath.

[Narrock]

I'm gonna start a "needs a hammock in the workplace" religion that can't work more then 45 minutes at a time.

DISCRIMINATION I SAY!

Canada would probably appease you on that.

[KILL]

I own a firm. This firm does business 24/7.I expect my employees to be available for their set schedules. I dont want to have to either hire 2 people to do the job of 1 or screw another worker outta their weekends. Not to mention the fact that you are basically trying to force an employeer to work sround your schedule. Fri-Sat still have to be covered regardless. So because of your religion someone has to be hired part time to do the fri-sat. Or someone else has to have their schedule rearranged and end up working weekends constantly because they dont subscribe to your particular religion?

If their is any discrimination going on it's from you."I want this job,but I cant work fri-sat due to my religious beliefs. Therefore I want you to rearrange the schedules of your employees or hire a part time replacement to accomdate me, or I can sue you for discrimination"

They were right not to hire you. I sure would not have.

Many employers have tried to play that card, and lost in court.

name one

ROFL click the link I posted.

my religion doesnt let me go to adventist links

[Gidan]

I should sue target, They refused to hire me because I wasn't available on weekends. I can just say it was religious reasons. Hell I could make a full time job of it. Just apply to everyplace under the sun. If they hire me, then quit, if they dont sue.

It's lame to lie about it. There are many, many examples I can provide to show you that it is indeed discrimination, and employers are taking an expensive gamble by discriminating against someone because of their religious beliefs. Here's one example:

http://news.adventist.org/data/2001/06/ ... ex.html.en

There are tons of suits just like this. Do a Google search and find out for yourself. Now, if you disagree with the law, that's one thing. But you cannot say it's not discrimination, because it absolutely is (without question) a blatant discriminatory act that can have severe repercussions.

You really don’t get it do you. It has nothing to do with your religion. Stop for just a minute and realize, the average person doesn't give a shit about your religion. They are a business; they want people available on weekends. Why should they fill one of their limited job spots with someone who can’t work at the time they need when they have plenty of people willing to work when they need them to work?

So how can you gaurantee it was because of your religion?

You're the one who doesn't get it. The law is the law. It protects religious beliefs and practices. If they need someone to work sundown Friday to sundown Saturday then they can hire someone to work that schedule, but they cannot deny employment because someone will not work on the Sabbath.

Ummm are you listening to yourself? They need someone to work Sat morning. You apply; they say you need to work Sat morning. You say I can’t. They say ok thanks, but we need someone on Sat morning, thank you for applying. You say religious discrimination.

Let’s say a 5' 80lb woman applied for a job on a contraction site that required the person to life 100lbs consistently. They don’t hire her because she doesn't qualify for the job. Should she sue for sex discrimination?

[Narrock]

The U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission
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Discriminatory Practices
Under Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA), and the Age Discrimination in Employment Act (ADEA), it is illegal to discriminate in any aspect of employment, including:

hiring and firing;
compensation, assignment, or classification of employees;
transfer, promotion, layoff, or recall;
job advertisements;
recruitment;
testing;
use of company facilities;
training and apprenticeship programs;
fringe benefits;
pay, retirement plans, and disability leave; or
other terms and conditions of employment.
Discriminatory practices under these laws also include:

harassment on the basis of race, color, religion, sex, national origin, disability, or age;
retaliation against an individual for filing a charge of discrimination, participating in an investigation, or opposing discriminatory practices;
employment decisions based on stereotypes or assumptions about the abilities, traits, or performance of individuals of a certain sex, race, age, religion, or ethnic group, or individuals with disabilities; and
denying employment opportunities to a person because of marriage to, or association with, an individual of a particular race, religion, national origin, or an individual with a disability. Title VII also prohibits discrimination because of participation in schools or places of worship associated with a particular racial, ethnic, or religious group.
Employers are required to post notices to all employees advising them of their rights under the laws EEOC enforces and their right to be free from retaliation. Such notices must be accessible, as needed, to persons with visual or other disabilities that affect reading.

Note: Many states and municipalities also have enacted protections against discrimination and harassment based on sexual orientation, status as a parent, marital status and political affiliation. For information, please contact the EEOC District Office nearest you.

Are you listening to yourself? lol this is getting more and more funny as we go along.


Like I said... you can disagree with the law, but the law is there to protect people.

[Sithos]

If a person regardless of race,sex or creed can do the job I ask of them then they get hired.

If a person regardless of race,sex or creed cant do the job I ask of them then they dont get hired.

by "the job" I mean perform the required activies of the position at the set scheduled times.

If someone cannot do that for whatever reason I don't view it as discrimination if I dont hire them. To me it's good business practice.

[The Kizzy]

I vote we all just ignore Mindia because obviously his skull is thickening as we speak.

[Narrock]

I'd wager that the ratio of Adventists to non-Adventists applying for jobs is a ratio of about 1:5000 in any given city of a population of about 30,000+, so it's not like an employer is going to have a difficult time filling a sundown Friday to sundown Saturday slot.

[Narrock]

I vote we all just ignore Mindia because obviously his skull is thickening as we speak.

I vote that several of you stop turning your backs to the law.

[Gidan]

Has it ever crossed your mind they might just not have hired you because you couldn't work Sat? This is a very serious question. Did it ever even once occur to you? What specifically about how they told you, made you believe that it was solely your religion they were against?

[Narrock]

You obviously didn't read my first post. Go back and read it. Pay close attention to what the manager told me. Then you will have your answer.

[Gidan]

I told her that I don't work sundown Friday to sundown Saturday. The old bag's response to that was, "Well, this is retail, and in retail, you have to work on weekends."

And since you didn't answer the question.

Did it ever once occur to you that they might just not have hired you because the position required you to work weekends and you were not available?

[Sithos]

I'd wager that the ratio of Adventists to non-Adventists applying for jobs is a ratio of about 1:5000 in any given city of a population of about 30,000+, so it's not like an employer is going to have a difficult time filling a sundown Friday to sundown Saturday slot.

So because of your religious belief you feel that it is alright for a person who believes as you do, to force an employeer to hire someone part time to "fill in" on those holy days that you cannot work? How is that not hypocritical? Do you believe that it is fair to do so?You would push forth your rights based on "freedom of religion and the law" while at the same time pushing down the rights of others?

[Narrock]

They were hiring full-time lumber department people. During the interview I informed her I was a journeyman carpenter, and that I've built several homes, apartment complexes, and condos, as well as a lot of commercial projects. I also informed her that I love working with wood and building things out of wood as a hobby. All of her responses were very positive, and she smiled and nodded a lot... all the way up to when she asked me what days and hours I was available to work. Then the discrimination took over and I got the brush-off.

Any other questions?