Are all black men chauvenistic pigs?

[Guntaag Gorefeast]

cant stop the rock

[Harrison]

This thread sucks.

for troo

[Zanchief]

Mindia has always been blinded with tunnel vision

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[Harrison]

I lol'd

[Snero]

F U ZAN!

[Gidan]

Just to give Mindia the benefit of the doubt, I mentioned this to the head of our legal department. He told me that we get a few of these cases every year. He takes every single one to court and has yet to lose. Mindia, if you applied here and got that repose and sued, our legal team would take you to court in a heartbeat.

Bottom line on this issue is that your religious beliefs can not force a company to hire you at cost to them. Scheduling concerns are a legitimate reason for not hiring someone, and in our company is often a reason to not hire someone. We will not hire any tech that is not available 24/7 at the time of hiring. Had you told out HR department that you couldn’t work Sat for any reason what so ever, they would not hire you.

If you are so damn sure that you were discriminated against, then it’s your duty to report it and take them to court. If your not willing to take them to court, either you don’t care that people are discriminating against your religion or you are not as confident as you say you are. Put your money where your mouth is and act on what you believe.

[Narrock]

Lueyen said:

Imagine you worked for a company where you and 2 other people did the same job on different shifts with different days off. Imagine you were the last one hired and that selection of days off was based on seniority, and this had been a long standing company policy. If the person with the most seniority had chosen Fridays and Saturdays off, then the company would not be obligated to force them to change their schedule to accommodate your possibly new found religious beliefs. I would think this situation would only occur if you converted to new religious beliefs after you had been working there because if you required Friday and Saturday off in this scenario you wouldn't be hired due to your availability not being congruent with what the company was looking for. In this case the company's inability to accommodate your request would be completely legitimate and legal.

I agree with this point, but I know that there are many employers out there who don't give a rat's ass about anybody's religious beliefs and they do discriminate. It's happened in the past many times which is why that EEOC law was created. Now those kinds of employers have a loophole to jump through, or a "card to play" in their favor. SCOTUS should overturn their own ruling on that case.

[Narrock]

Just to give Mindia the benefit of the doubt, I mentioned this to the head of our legal department. He told me that we get a few of these cases every year. He takes every single one to court and has yet to lose. Mindia, if you applied here and got that repose and sued, our legal team would take you to court in a heartbeat.

Bottom line on this issue is that your religious beliefs can not force a company to hire you at cost to them. Scheduling concerns are a legitimate reason for not hiring someone, and in our company is often a reason to not hire someone. We will not hire any tech that is not available 24/7 at the time of hiring. Had you told out HR department that you couldn’t work Sat for any reason what so ever, they would not hire you.

If you are so damn sure that you were discriminated against, then it’s your duty to report it and take them to court. If your not willing to take them to court, either you don’t care that people are discriminating against your religion or you are not as confident as you say you are. Put your money where your mouth is and act on what you believe.

I already told you why I didn't sue them. I also talked to a friend who is a Lieutenant at the Nevada Parole & Probation dept. She said the only organizations who are exempt from having to prove the hardship clause are emergency personnel departments (police, fire, ambulance, hospitals, etc.) because those organizations need people 24/7. So, that's totally understandable.

Again, I like the Home Depot, and have been a customer of theirs for about 15+ years now. I think it's an utter and complete travesty that they didn't hire me a couple years ago for a position that they were hiring a couple people for, and I was well-qualified for the position, yet the only reason I didn't get hired was because of my religious beliefs. I would be willing to bet that the corporation wouldn't condone this kind of BS.

[Zanchief]

I would be willing to bet that the corporation wouldn't condone this kind of BS.

You'd lose that bet.

[Gaazy]

I wouldnt even want to waste my time going to court to sue over a 15 dollar an hour job, I'd move on to the next one. I still think that law is retarded though, they should be able to hire or not hire anyone for any reason

[Gidan]

Just to give Mindia the benefit of the doubt, I mentioned this to the head of our legal department. He told me that we get a few of these cases every year. He takes every single one to court and has yet to lose. Mindia, if you applied here and got that repose and sued, our legal team would take you to court in a heartbeat.

Bottom line on this issue is that your religious beliefs can not force a company to hire you at cost to them. Scheduling concerns are a legitimate reason for not hiring someone, and in our company is often a reason to not hire someone. We will not hire any tech that is not available 24/7 at the time of hiring. Had you told out HR department that you couldn’t work Sat for any reason what so ever, they would not hire you.

If you are so damn sure that you were discriminated against, then it’s your duty to report it and take them to court. If your not willing to take them to court, either you don’t care that people are discriminating against your religion or you are not as confident as you say you are. Put your money where your mouth is and act on what you believe.

I already told you why I didn't sue them. I also talked to a friend who is a Lieutenant at the Nevada Parole & Probation dept. She said the only organizations who are exempt from having to prove the hardship clause are emergency personnel departments (police, fire, ambulance, hospitals, etc.) because those organizations need people 24/7. So, that's totally understandable.

Again, I like the Home Depot, and have been a customer of theirs for about 15+ years now. I think it's an utter and complete travesty that they didn't hire me a couple years ago for a position that they were hiring a couple people for, and I was well-qualified for the position, yet the only reason I didn't get hired was because of my religious beliefs. I would be willing to bet that the corporation wouldn't condone this kind of BS.

If you’re not willing to do anything, then that type of discrimination isn't that important to you. You just don’t care that it will happen to more people in the future even though you were in a position to do something.

[Narrock]

Just to give Mindia the benefit of the doubt, I mentioned this to the head of our legal department. He told me that we get a few of these cases every year. He takes every single one to court and has yet to lose. Mindia, if you applied here and got that repose and sued, our legal team would take you to court in a heartbeat.

Bottom line on this issue is that your religious beliefs can not force a company to hire you at cost to them. Scheduling concerns are a legitimate reason for not hiring someone, and in our company is often a reason to not hire someone. We will not hire any tech that is not available 24/7 at the time of hiring. Had you told out HR department that you couldn’t work Sat for any reason what so ever, they would not hire you.

If you are so damn sure that you were discriminated against, then it’s your duty to report it and take them to court. If your not willing to take them to court, either you don’t care that people are discriminating against your religion or you are not as confident as you say you are. Put your money where your mouth is and act on what you believe.

I already told you why I didn't sue them. I also talked to a friend who is a Lieutenant at the Nevada Parole & Probation dept. She said the only organizations who are exempt from having to prove the hardship clause are emergency personnel departments (police, fire, ambulance, hospitals, etc.) because those organizations need people 24/7. So, that's totally understandable.

Again, I like the Home Depot, and have been a customer of theirs for about 15+ years now. I think it's an utter and complete travesty that they didn't hire me a couple years ago for a position that they were hiring a couple people for, and I was well-qualified for the position, yet the only reason I didn't get hired was because of my religious beliefs. I would be willing to bet that the corporation wouldn't condone this kind of BS.

If you’re not willing to do anything, then that type of discrimination isn't that important to you. You just don’t care that it will happen to more people in the future even though you were in a position to do something.

I found a better job, and a better-paying job. Honestly, you're not reading what I post, otherwise you wouldn't be saying this.

[Narrock]

I wouldnt even want to waste my time going to court to sue over a 15 dollar an hour job, I'd move on to the next one. I still think that law is retarded though, they should be able to hire or not hire anyone for any reason

Are you a devout Christian? If so, then you should be at least raising an eyebrow at this. Most states have the "hire at will, fire at will" law anyway.

[Gaazy]

I am a christian, but I wouldnt say devout. I still think it should be their business though, not the wonderful government's, or mine. Like I said, I'm not going to not hire someone because they are Christian or Muslim or whatever though.

[Zanchief]

So if a Muslim woman demanded to wear her burka as a police officer, you think she could sue if she wasn't hired?

[Gidan]

All I see is someone bitching because he though a company or individual at that company is discriminating against his religion. His reaction to that is to complain on a message board rather then to grow a set and take it up with the company. If you think it’s the individual you could take it up with the manager that he has a person in charge of hiring that is discriminating against religion. If you think it’s the company stand you could take them to court.

You do nothing. Either your lazy, don’t care or unconfident. If you don’t think you could win that’s fine, just go about your life. If you are lazy or don’t care, that’s fine also, let others suffer for you lack of action. You are in a position where you can actually do something and choose not to. Personally, I think you know that you would lose because deep down you know you don’t have a case. Someday you will get over yourself and realize that your not always right.

[Snero]

see, the problem is his argument is full of holes and he knows it, he just doesn't want to admit it

[The Kizzy]

Just for S&G I checked with my HR manager. He said if they were to hire you and THEN tell you that you oculdn't have those days off even though you made it perfectly clear in the interview, then you MIGHT have a case. If they didn't hire you, you would not.

[Tikker]

I wouldnt even want to waste my time going to court to sue over a 15 dollar an hour job, I'd move on to the next one. I still think that law is retarded though, they should be able to hire or not hire anyone for any reason

Are you a devout Christian? If so, then you should be at least raising an eyebrow at this. Most states have the "hire at will, fire at will" law anyway.

you make it sound like you're devout~



ps, you're not, based on your behaviour here~

[Narrock]

I wouldnt even want to waste my time going to court to sue over a 15 dollar an hour job, I'd move on to the next one. I still think that law is retarded though, they should be able to hire or not hire anyone for any reason

Are you a devout Christian? If so, then you should be at least raising an eyebrow at this. Most states have the "hire at will, fire at will" law anyway.

you make it sound like you're devout~



ps, you're not, based on your behaviour here~

I never said I was the perfect "model" Christian. I pray, go to church, care for people, try to be a good guy, etc. but I do cuss sometimes, and I find it very difficult to not acknowledge hawt girls. OH NOES.

[Narrock]

Just for S&G I checked with my HR manager. He said if they were to hire you and THEN tell you that you oculdn't have those days off even though you made it perfectly clear in the interview, then you MIGHT have a case. If they didn't hire you, you would not.

Yeah, that would be wrong, because then they know you lied in the interview. If you're a Sabbatarian, then you need to disclose that in the interview. Otherwise, a Sabbatarian has no leg to stand on whatsoever.

[Narrock]

see, the problem is his argument is full of holes and he knows it, he just doesn't want to admit it

Look, the law is the law. The final judgment could go either way depending on which judge is reviewing the case. We all know that judges and juries, etc. have certain biases. If I took this case to court, and the presiding judge was an atheist, I'd have a better chance of selling ice to an Eskimo than winning my case.

[Tikker]

see, the problem is his argument is full of holes and he knows it, he just doesn't want to admit it

Look, the law is the law. The final judgment could go either way depending on which judge is reviewing the case. We all know that judges and juries, etc. have certain biases. If I took this case to court, and the presiding judge was an atheist, I'd have a better chance of selling ice to an Eskimo than winning my case.

no, the problem is you have to prove that they discriminated against you based on your religion, as opposed to your lack of availability of working hours compared to the other dude that was willing to work those hours

[Narrock]

see, the problem is his argument is full of holes and he knows it, he just doesn't want to admit it

Look, the law is the law. The final judgment could go either way depending on which judge is reviewing the case. We all know that judges and juries, etc. have certain biases. If I took this case to court, and the presiding judge was an atheist, I'd have a better chance of selling ice to an Eskimo than winning my case.

no, the problem is you have to prove that they discriminated against you based on your religion, as opposed to your lack of availability of working hours compared to the other dude that was willing to work those hours

I agree, and that would be very difficult to prove, since you wouldn't have access to other employees' files anyway.

[Gargamellow]

I want to poke Snero's French-Canadian buttocks.