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by **Diekan** » Mon Sep 25, 2006 6:58 pm

I hope NO loses. Not because I hate the Saints - but because I am soooo fucking sick and tired of hearing about Kartrina. Hey... guess what... New Or wasn't the only city / community / area destroyed by the hurricane.

p.s. With all the money involved... I honestly wonder if Atlanta was given a push to lose intentionally.

by **Minrott** » Mon Sep 25, 2006 7:02 pm

I'd like to see ATL lose because there's a movie called ATL and I hate Atlanta.

by **Diekan** » Mon Sep 25, 2006 7:04 pm

You see that... two passes, back to back, both would have been touch downs for Atlanta - both "dropped."

by **Diekan** » Mon Sep 25, 2006 7:08 pm

Minrott wrote:I'd like to see ATL lose because there's a movie called ATL and I hate Atlanta.

I hate Atlanta too - the heat, the traffic, the crime, the shallow - pretentious attitudes of the people...

But, I'll be very suprised if Atlanta wins. Not because NO is a superior team (I don't believe they are), but because the "country is wanting to see NO win" - or so say the sports casters. Atlanta can lose and still make the play offs, still go all the way - a loss tonight really may not mean much.

I'm not saying the NFL is totally fixed - but I don't believe for a second that some shady shit doesn't go on behind the scenes. Not with all the money involved.

by **Gidan** » Mon Sep 25, 2006 7:13 pm

I have to agree, I hope NO gets owned. I am so sick of hearing about Katrina.

WTF is atlanta doing out there tonight. Can they play any worse.

by **Phlegm** » Mon Sep 25, 2006 7:32 pm

This is New Orleans' homecoming game. As you know with homecoming games, they schedule crappy team so they can win easily just like they do in high school and college homecomings.

by **Darcler** » Mon Sep 25, 2006 8:47 pm

Haha my high school constantly lost their homecoming games because we ALWAYS went up against our "rival", the state champs =/

by **Tikker** » Mon Sep 25, 2006 9:18 pm

Saints have some hot cheerleaders zomg

ps, they're also playing pretty well, and the Falcons are helping them out by sucking

by **Diekan** » Mon Sep 25, 2006 9:27 pm

That's my point - that "sucking" isn't happenstance. It's intential I guarantee it.

I turned the game off a while ago when I realized it really is "staged" just so the people of NO can have something to be happy about.

Hey while we're at it, why don't we just go ahead and rig the rest of the season so the Saints can take it all. I mean what better story could you have? Nothing would display the perseverance of the American spirt more!

Then we could have a full two hours of pre-Super Bowl Katrina bullshit to make our eyes bleed!

I'm seriously starting to lose more and more interest in pro sports.

On a different note - I realize that it's a terrible thing to have lost everything you own, or to have been forced out of your home forever. But, you stand up, rebuild and move on. I'm tired of hearing about it. I'm tired of "katrina katrina katrina (a year later - more next!)" ... yes, I'm glad they got their city back and that things are looking up... but give it a rest already. Is there no other news that worthy of our time anymore?

by **Baile** » Mon Sep 25, 2006 9:50 pm

Atlanta is better than this. I agree with Diekan. I have seen 3 passes dropped that should have ended up in touchdowns.

It's a sad day when when you have to rig this game that I love so much, just to boost national morale.

by **Lionking** » Mon Sep 25, 2006 9:53 pm

This game is fixed. Hell they all are. College football included. Fuck it all!

by **Minrott** » Mon Sep 25, 2006 11:37 pm

Vick seemed awfully frustrated. Like, I can't believe I have to play like this frustrated, not, I can't believe I'm playing like this frustrated.

by **mofish** » Tue Sep 26, 2006 12:23 am

There really should be an IQ test before they let you have internet.

LionKing, Diekan, and Baile; Youre all stupid idiots. NFL games arent fixed, idiots.

And the Saints are 3-0.

Every hater in this thread can suck my cock, and every cock in New Orleans. Suck them bitches. Suck them all and suck them well.

And cry more please. Your tears give me sustenance.

by **mofish** » Tue Sep 26, 2006 12:27 am

Hey guys you were right!

I take it all back, youre all so very smart. Look what I found! Super secret!

Dear Mr. Arthur Blank,

We are instructing you to have your team lay down and lose an important divisional game on MNF so that the Saints can win, just as we had the Browns and Packers do in weeks one and two. Please arrange to have your coaching staff and all 53 of your players in on this arrangement. Thank you for your prompt attention in this matter.

Sincerely,

The collective other NFL owners and NFL Commissioner.

by **Diekan** » Tue Sep 26, 2006 2:29 am

Minrott wrote:Vick seemed awfully frustrated. Like, I can't believe I have to play like this frustrated, not, I can't believe I'm playing like this frustrated.

Not a single Falcon had a smile on their face once. From the first play of the first quarter on... it wasn't a look of frustration, to me, it was a look of disgust.

by **Baile** » Tue Sep 26, 2006 2:59 am

My prediction:

Saints win the superbowl.

This way, america feels better about ignoring New Orleans during the aftermath of Katrina.

by **Griever** » Tue Sep 26, 2006 5:14 am

You guys are retarded. There are no fixed games in the NFL. Each team is its own seperate organization depending on the success of it's team. Besides if the NFL wanted a certain team to win a game they would do it with officiating.

Isn't it possible that the Saints could've been playing with great intensity and emotion for their fans? I guarantee you the Saints wanted to win that game more than the Falcons did.

by **Lionking** » Tue Sep 26, 2006 5:35 am

This thread is fixed. Hell all of NT is fixed. Fuck it all!

This thread was fixed so that Mofish could say 'cock'!

by **Diekan** » Tue Sep 26, 2006 6:04 am

Yeah, three dopped touch down passes, blocked punts, blocked field goals, constant pressure on Vick... the looks of disgust on the faces of the Falcons during the FIRST series... all of that was just coincidence.... uh huh.

It's simple. NO was supposed to win, the city "needed" the win to gain some hope and to feel good about something. It's just that simple.

The NFL is a MULTI BILLION dollar industry - and like ALL big money industries - there is corruption. The more money involved the greater the corruption.

I don't hate the Saints, but I don't follow them either. If they won that game fair and square... good... but if it was fixed like MANY people now suspect - it's bullshit. You don't throw games so people can feel good about themselves.

by **Griever** » Tue Sep 26, 2006 6:29 am

Have you ever watched a football game in your life? You talk about the Falcons like they are supposed to be the Indianapolis Colts.

The Falcons do not have Peyton Manning as a QB.

The Falcons have Roddy White and Michael Jenkins; not Marvin Harrison and Reggie Wayne. Passes will be dropped.

Do you know how hard it is to script a blocked kick? You'd have to slow down your motion and wait for a defender to get to you and get his arms up in just the right spot. All that would be obvious to anyone watching the game. I watched the game and that blocked field goal was not scripted.

And yes disgusted looks = fixed game. Nice logic. Im sure it had nothing to do with the Saints coming out and completely dominating the Falcons and giving Vick nobody to throw to or time to throw it. Yeah, usually when that happens players smile, laugh and skip around the field.

Like I said a game would be thrown with officiating not with a team lying down. Its more likely the Steelers/Seahawks Super Bowl was thrown than this game was.

by **Xaiveir** » Tue Sep 26, 2006 9:22 am

The game was thrown? Yeah right. Sorry NFL games would take an awful lot of collusion to do so. First off, why in the world would Atlanta agree to throw the game? Because of Hurricane Katrina they would risk their season on 1 game? Just to make the saints feel good? Come off it. First you would have to get all 52+ players, coaches, and trainers etc to sign off on it. Not only on the Falcons side...but the Saints side as well. Not likely going to happen.

And the League? WTF does the league care if the Saints win? Yes its a great story, but having the Saints win isnt going to get NFL many more viewers than it already has.

Not trying to be an ass about hurricane Katrina, but everyone is tired of hearing of it.....NFL players too. If im a player on the Falcons, and it was proposed to throw the game so it makes the city feel better, i would say FUCK them (sorry i would), and i would go try to win the game.

Griever is right, You dont have Peyton Manning throwing to Marvin Harrison, or Reggie wayne. You have Michael Vick throwing to Roddy White, and Michael Jenkins. Yeah there are going to be alot of dropped touchdowns. Hell in quite afew games on Sunday there were dropped passes in the End Zone. I call a fix on those too!!!!

Diek you say,"Not a single Falcon had a smile on their face once. From the first play of the first quarter on... it wasn't a look of frustration, to me, it was a look of disgust."

You are right, i would have a look of disgust on my face too if im losing a game. Look at teh Seattle, NY game. Alot of the Giants had a look of disgust on their face. Was that a fixed game too? Perhaps Eli threw into double coverage on their first series because Seattle was suppose to win that game.

The change in the amount of money that NFL and alot of sports players are paid, lowers the chance of them throwing games. Hell in the NFL the large majority of players have incentive clauses, if you catch this many passes, throw this many TD's, rush this many yards, You get Bonus money. They are not going to sacrifice that just so NO feels good about themselves.

This game was won for acouple of reasons. One NO played inspired, for their fans, for the city, and for themselves. Many of those players lost homes in Katrina, and family lost homes. It wasnt just the fans that needed this win.

Second Sean Payton completly outcoached Mora. The discipline instilled in the saints defense to contain Vick and Dunn was perfect. NO is one of the "slower" defenses in the NFL. The problem the College type offense that the Falcons run, is that defenses in the NFL are so fast, they tend to overpersue. If you overpersue on vick and dunn, the cut back lanes are wide open. Wich is why the Falcons have had as much success this year as they have.

However in the NFL college type option, running offenses WONT work long term. You want to use it some of the time....fine it will work. However if you base your entire offense off that you will lose. Here are the reasons why. First Vick and any running QB will take alot of hits during the year. There are Head hunting linebackers out there, and its only a matter of time before the QB gets hurt. EVERY time there was a mobile quarterback that the offense was based on, it shortened their careers, and long term they were a losing team.

Second NFL defenses and coaches are too smart. An option running game is very easy to plan against GIVEN TIME. New Orleans planned their game plan EXTREMELY well. There was always a QB spy, his job on the feild is to only go where Vick goes...ignore everything else going on. When Vick scrambled lineman stay in their gaps taking away his cutback lanes. The pursuit defense always forced vick back towards the middle of the field where their is help instead of trying to bounce him outside.

I could go on why this offense will not work long term in the NFL. Falcons imho are overated. They are a good team, very decent Defense, but their struggles are offensivly. NO are better than people give them credit for. Breese is a very good QB. They have a great tandem of running backs that give them alot of different options, and a solid recieving core.

FYI im not a fan of NO saints. Ive forever hated them since their rivalry with the Niners. So its not like im some bandwagon jumping saints fan now. They are a good team, and its fun watching them play, but i certainly dont count them as a team im a fanboi of.

Bottom line, the game was not fixed. The environment that the saints fans, and the emotion with wich the saints players played was extremely tough to play in for ANY team. The Falcons were beat...simple.

by **Xaiveir** » Tue Sep 26, 2006 9:36 am

Diekan wrote:
I don't hate the Saints, but I don't follow them either. If they won that game fair and square... good... but if it was fixed like MANY people now suspect - it's bullshit. You don't throw games so people can feel good about themselves.

Fixed like many people now suspect? Who are these MANY people. The 4 people from an old everquest board ? Oh yeah..thats many people, and the people that have the most knowledge and authority on the subject :umno:

Come on man. :wtf:

There is not "many" people that think this game was fixed. In fact the only time ive heard it from all the message boards, chats, espn, NFL....you guys are the ONLY ones saying Fraud.

:mystery:

by **Tikker** » Tue Sep 26, 2006 10:38 am

The best part about the game was the video montage at the start

they showed all the (black) people who suffered during the hurricane, and all the (black) people who lost their homes and were living on the streets

then they cut away to all the (white) people in crowd having a good time drinking beer, etc

it really kind of made me giggle

by **Reynaldo** » Tue Sep 26, 2006 10:40 am

When watching the game, I could see how people could say that maybe Vick/Crumpler could have been throwing the game to an extent.

But the bottom line is, even if throwing the game, Vick isn't going to take that many hits and run like he did in the 2nd half. He would have just chucked up bombs on 3 step drops and avoided any contact.

So was this game fixed? No, not in my opinion.

But you're an idiot if you believe nothing ever gets "fixed" on a pro level.

by **mofish** » Tue Sep 26, 2006 12:24 pm

Diekan wrote:Yeah, three dopped touch down passes, blocked punts, blocked field goals, constant pressure on Vick... the looks of disgust on the faces of the Falcons during the FIRST series... all of that was just coincidence.... uh huh.

It's simple. NO was supposed to win, the city "needed" the win to gain some hope and to feel good about something. It's just that simple.

The NFL is a MULTI BILLION dollar industry - and like ALL big money industries - there is corruption. The more money involved the greater the corruption.

I don't hate the Saints, but I don't follow them either. If they won that game fair and square... good... but if it was fixed like MANY people now suspect - it's bullshit. You don't throw games so people can feel good about themselves.

lol

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