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by **Jay** » Mon Oct 16, 2006 9:52 pm

HOLY FUCKING SHIT

by **Diekan** » Mon Oct 16, 2006 9:55 pm

The D CAN'T let them get into FG range - they need to step up and lay the smacketh down

by **Jay** » Mon Oct 16, 2006 9:56 pm

After all that if the bears lose I'm going to stab someone tonight.

by **Diekan** » Mon Oct 16, 2006 9:57 pm

It's completely up to the D now. They can't give Lieghner (however the fuck it's spelled) time to throw or he WILL find targets.

by **Jay** » Mon Oct 16, 2006 9:59 pm

by **Diekan** » Mon Oct 16, 2006 9:59 pm

Doesn't look good. D is giving up too many yards.... 10 more and they're easily in FG range

by **Diekan** » Mon Oct 16, 2006 10:00 pm

Hell they're practically in FG range now. What the fuck happened to the D?

by **Diekan** » Mon Oct 16, 2006 10:01 pm

SOrry dude - it's over. They're in FG range - they're gonna run the clock down - hit the FG and win it. The D broke down and allowed to many yards....

Only hope now is they get a turnover (possible but unlikely), a blocked kick (unlikely) or the kicker misses (unlikely)

by **Diekan** » Mon Oct 16, 2006 10:03 pm

zHOLY FuCKiGN SHIT!!!11!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by **Jay** » Mon Oct 16, 2006 10:03 pm

WIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIDE

by **Jay** » Mon Oct 16, 2006 10:06 pm

That was the craziest game in football history

by **Diekan** » Mon Oct 16, 2006 10:07 pm

Wellllllllllll I don't know bout that now. My boys have the greatest come back in NFL history - remember that Bills / Oilers play off game? Now THAT was fucking sweet.

Too bad they suck donkey nuts now.

by **Xaiveir** » Mon Oct 16, 2006 10:09 pm

WOW...what a fucking game. Wow....thats all i have to say. Im not a cardinals fan, im a seahawks fan so its hard for me to root for them. But i was really rooting for Leinhart. Jesus Chicago's D is amazing. Urlacher for MVP.

by **Jay** » Mon Oct 16, 2006 10:14 pm

I have a lot of respect for Leinart man. That kid did everything he could.

by **Lionking** » Mon Oct 16, 2006 10:17 pm

Lionking wrote:That being said, I still expect a 21-20 Bears win. This is the NFL after all.

24-23 is close enough. Hate to say I told ya so, but i told ya so.

Oh and Fuck off Diekan. I'll bet your pussy little goat points on OSPew/UofM

I'd rather bet a case of beer, but whatever dude.

by **Jay** » Mon Oct 16, 2006 10:22 pm

My adrenaline is still pumping after that game omfg man. What an incredible game. Rex choked like a bitch big time though. And yeah, Urlacher for MVP.

by **Tikker** » Mon Oct 16, 2006 10:56 pm

they really didn't deserve to win that game

Grossman looked like he was reading his press clippings

he needs to realize he just needs to be accurate, not try to be a superstar

jesus, stick leinart(who played awesome btw) on the bears, and 16-0 np

by **Jay** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 2:59 am

I was pissed off but extremely impressed at how Leinart was dismantling the Bears' D in the first half. Sadly, although the Bears won, Leinart exposed a vulnerability that will make the Bears D not as effective as it has been. That or maybe I'm reading too far into it.

by **Tikker** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 7:51 am

eh, what did he expose?

tht if you block the front 4, and throw the underneath pass you can beat the cover2 defense?

it's not rocket science

by **Xaiveir** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 8:53 am

Tikker wrote:eh, what did he expose?

tht if you block the front 4, and throw the underneath pass you can beat the cover2 defense?

it's not rocket science

Nail, hammer....right on the head.

However Leinhart really didnt expose anything with the D of chicago. Yes he played extremely well, he just didnt make mistakes. You just cant allow the Bears defense to tee off on you (example see seahawks game). You have to remember the cardinals only had 270ish yards of total offense. Its not like he was gashing Chicago. The reason why Arizona scored points was because Chicago's offense kept giving them the ball with only half the field to go. Chicago's D gave a tremendous effort to keep the game to a total of 23 points to Arizona. Esspecially with how often they were on the field. I didnt see the total Time of Possesion stats, but i did know that at one point it was 30 minutes to 12 minutes in favor or AZ. Thats a HUGE amount of time for that defense to be on the field.

The exposed part of the Bears was their offense. Arizona just gave a blueprint to the league as how to shut it down. You take away Grossman's first option and force him to sit in the pocket, and scan the field he will make mistakes. They have relied on short three step drops and having grossman make quick passes. You take away that option he then has to take that extra second or two to check his options.

With Grossman also, and i know this has been said before, he needs to learn to check down to his short route recievers instead of forcing the ball into coverage. That does come with time, and we have to remember this is only his 14th (???) NFL start. He is still technically a rookie as far as games played go. He is going to make mistakes.

I think in all, yes the Bears are 6-0, but 16-0 is still a long ways to go. I wouldnt buy the superbowl tickets yet. It also shows you cant look past any opponent in the NFL.

by **Tikker** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 8:56 am

if you look at the game, 1st offensive play, grossman missed berrian by about 8 inches for a touchdown 1st play of the game

if they connect there, I bet the score would have been 35-3

I'm not a big grossman fan at all
he throws while backpedalling way too often for my taste, and seems to think he's a lot better than he really is

by **Xaiveir** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 9:10 am

Tikker wrote:if you look at the game, 1st offensive play, grossman missed berrian by about 8 inches for a touchdown 1st play of the game

if they connect there, I bet the score would have been 35-3

I'm not a big grossman fan at all
he throws while backpedalling way too often for my taste, and seems to think he's a lot better than he really is

I agree here. I saw that first pass go up, and the first thing i said was touchdown...game over. If he does catch that pass it becomes a route. Could you imagine the Bears Defense, with a lead, going after Matt Leihnart for an entire game. OUCH, that could have been messy.

As far as Grossman, im not a "fan" but he has always had alot of talent. Strong arm, can make any throw. The only thats missing now is experience. He will be in the league (barring injury) for a long time. With him, the Bears will dominate the North division for a long time. Its almos cliche to say this now with as many times as its been iterated....but Grosssman does remind me of a young Favre. Same mentality, same swagger, same arm, same bad mechanics (throwing off the back foot). Another Cliche is he is a gunslinger. I believe we had a discussion on here about how "gunslingers" were a dying breed. Once Favre retired that would really be it in the NFL, well as long as grossman stays healthy he will carry on that tradition.

Im not too concerned about Grossman's mechanics. He is fairly sound outside of sometimes throwing off the back foot. Last night it bit him in the ass, but for 5 other games he did fine. Thats how he was in college, and thats how he is going to be in the pros. As long as it doesnt wind up throwing alot of INT it can actually be beneficial to the QB to do that.

by **Xaiveir** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 9:13 am

Tikker wrote:
I'm not a big grossman fan at all
he throws while backpedalling way too often for my taste, and seems to think he's a lot better than he really is

Just wondering where your getting this opinion from (yes actually asking not flaming on NT zomg!) I see a guy that is confident, but hasnt been to cocky. Every interview ive seen him give lately he has not come across as arogent at all. I certainly havnt heard him sing his own praises. Just wondering if i had missed some things he has said or done?

by **Tikker** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 9:17 am

Xaiveir wrote:
Tikker wrote:
I'm not a big grossman fan at all
he throws while backpedalling way too often for my taste, and seems to think he's a lot better than he really is

Just wondering where your getting this opinion from (yes actually asking not flaming on NT zomg!) I see a guy that is confident, but hasnt been to cocky. Every interview ive seen him give lately he has not come across as arogent at all. I certainly havnt heard him sing his own praises. Just wondering if i had missed some things he has said or done?

i don't mean personality wise, i mean in terms of some of the throws he tries to make

by **Xaiveir** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 9:22 am

To me as a coach i would love to see that. It shows me that he has confidence. Sure its going to get him into trouble every once in awhile, but the large majority of the time its going to help him. You have to have confidence as a quarterback, if not you become hesitant to throw the ball, and then you nailed like a cheap 5 $ hooker, when you hold onto the ball for that split second longer.

I was impressed at how the Bears offense (at least not that i saw) didnt get down on Grossman. They seemed to believe they were going to come out and do better. With Grossman he still has some growing pains to go through, and he will become (have to ) more selective at when he can and cant (shouldnt!!!) make some of the throws he does. Thats what all quarterbacks go through. Its magnified because they were 5-0 (6-0 now) , and everyone is expecting him to either A.) implode B.) win every game. C.) get injured. He is on a big pedestal right now, with nobody knowing how good this kid really is.

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