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I used to make up to $45 an hour doing network engineering during the internet boom. I'm back in college to get the degree that will differentiate me from the 1000 other network engineers looking for work to let me make those amounts and more once again. If not for the crash, and if I'd kept working, I'd have my CCIE by now, and would be making oh, lets pick a mid-range rate... $85 an hour.
-Arlos
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That sounds nice arlos until you look at how people making 20-30/hr there live like minimum wage folks do here.
There are lots of jobs right now. Most people don't want to do them. They want a "good" job right from their hire date. So sorry, doesn't work that way unless you're an extremely charesmatic individual, well pedigreed with degrees and or certifications, or your uncle owns a sailboat business and takes pity on you.
Start a job at $8 an hour, make yourself indispensable and work your way up from there. That's what people who aren't well off in other opportunities do.
Mindia, I saw a 68 or perhaps a 69 firebird the other day, 400, black, just gorgeous. You have good taste.
There are lots of jobs right now. Most people don't want to do them. They want a "good" job right from their hire date. So sorry, doesn't work that way unless you're an extremely charesmatic individual, well pedigreed with degrees and or certifications, or your uncle owns a sailboat business and takes pity on you.
Start a job at $8 an hour, make yourself indispensable and work your way up from there. That's what people who aren't well off in other opportunities do.
Mindia, I saw a 68 or perhaps a 69 firebird the other day, 400, black, just gorgeous. You have good taste.
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Your opportunities for advancement are close to nil until you get some education / formal training / certifications. However most employers will work with you if you have proven yourself to be a good employee. Otherwise you'll probably end up a team lead and not much better (you are a leader, but still a grunt).
Tacks wrote:Janitors make more than minimum wage, truck drivers can make a ton of money, its very easy to learn how to weld, right theres 3 jobs that will START at 3x minimum wage...so I guess you've proven my point. None of those jobs require anything more than a GED to do and probably even less. Would they suck to do? yes but there ARE jobs out there.
Janitors....yeah your right. They make like 6.25. Hell nah. Trucking...shit I already do trucking don't want to do more. Welding...might not be to hard by my welding skills are VERY limited and from what I have heard you have to take at least show some proof of welding experience wether it be high school or what not for most factory jobs here in welding.

welding is far from easy, there's quite a bit more to welding than tacks and shitty horseshoe beads with a handheld 110.
it's a lost cause anyhow, just about everything is done by machine now... unless you want to weld buckets and shit for squat pay. you need to be a hell of a welder to make any kind of money in it, and it involves doing crazy shit.. like hanging off a bridge or being under water.
it's a lost cause anyhow, just about everything is done by machine now... unless you want to weld buckets and shit for squat pay. you need to be a hell of a welder to make any kind of money in it, and it involves doing crazy shit.. like hanging off a bridge or being under water.
My dad was a welder for years...his lungs were messed up for a long time from the fumes and such.
Inside each person lives two wolves. One is loyal, kind, respectful, humble and open to the mystery of life. The other is greedy, jealous, hateful, afraid and blind to the wonders of life. They are in battle for your spirit. The one who wins is the one you feed.
Tuggan wrote:welding is far from easy, there's quite a bit more to welding than tacks and shitty horseshoe beads with a handheld 110.
it's a lost cause anyhow, just about everything is done by machine now... unless you want to weld buckets and shit for squat pay. you need to be a hell of a welder to make any kind of money in it, and it involves doing crazy shit.. like hanging off a bridge or being under water.
Not true, we hire welders that start out at $14 an hour. They also have ventilated masks that look like what the TIE-fighter pilots wore that have a hose connected to a filtration system to prevent any kind of fumes. If you're willing to learn they will hire you to weld. They also yearly have welding certification classes in which if you pass you get $1 an hour raise.
Harrison wrote:Fortunately for him he decided to go to a vocational high school and not waste his time in a normal public high school.
That's pretty short sighted man. $16 an hour is jack shit once you start racking up serious bills like a house and kids. That's the absolute bare minimum to get by. It's extremely hard to make the money you need to make to retire on without some kind of education, being very charismatic or being hooked up through family, etc. Count on at least $35 hr to live comfortably and have money left over for retirement, kids education, vacations, etc and that's with 2 incomes. If you are a single parent, look forward to being poor, living in a small apartment, driving a shitty car, etc your entire life.
80k isn't bad for the Atlanta area, actually.
Inside each person lives two wolves. One is loyal, kind, respectful, humble and open to the mystery of life. The other is greedy, jealous, hateful, afraid and blind to the wonders of life. They are in battle for your spirit. The one who wins is the one you feed.
Tossica wrote:Harrison wrote:Fortunately for him he decided to go to a vocational high school and not waste his time in a normal public high school.
That's pretty short sighted man. $16 an hour is jack shit once you start racking up serious bills like a house and kids. That's the absolute bare minimum to get by. It's extremely hard to make the money you need to make to retire on without some kind of education, being very charismatic or being hooked up through family, etc. Count on at least $35 hr to live comfortably and have money left over for retirement, kids education, vacations, etc and that's with 2 incomes. If you are a single parent, look forward to being poor, living in a small apartment, driving a shitty car, etc your entire life.
agree 100%
I was fucking rich until I had a family
now I can see the writing on the walls that my Jeep is the last new vehicle I'll have for 18 more years
/shrug
We were in Atlanta for several years and still have family and friends there.
We were in Atlanta for several years and still have family and friends there.
Inside each person lives two wolves. One is loyal, kind, respectful, humble and open to the mystery of life. The other is greedy, jealous, hateful, afraid and blind to the wonders of life. They are in battle for your spirit. The one who wins is the one you feed.
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