BRITNEY SPEARS FILES FOR DIVORCE

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Postby Spazz » Wed Nov 08, 2006 9:01 am

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Postby Insanityfair » Wed Nov 08, 2006 10:06 am

Hm, do the kids belong with the dad who lived off mom's career and seems loserish in general, or the mom who believes in driving off with her kid in her lap totally ignoring the fact that there are laws against that... man, that's a tough call....I would like to see an option "C" they go with social services, but I'm sure it won't happen.
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Postby Ginzburgh » Wed Nov 08, 2006 10:16 am

Hm, do the kids belong with the dad who lived off mom's career and seems loserish in general, or the mom who believes in driving off with her kid in her lap totally ignoring the fact that there are laws against that... man, that's a tough call....I would like to see an option "C" they go with social services, but I'm sure it won't happen.


In her defense, she drove away with the kid on her lap because he was freaking out because they were being totally bombarded by paparazzi. So rather than elbowing her way through the crowd of photographers, trying to buckle her kid into the car seat in the back seat while dudes are shoving cameras in your face and into the car and into your kids face, she jumped in the car with the kid on her lap, went two blocks, pulled over and strapped the kid in.

Hardly grounds for social services.
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Postby Tacks » Wed Nov 08, 2006 10:18 am

Would you want her to watch YOUR kid?
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Postby Ginzburgh » Wed Nov 08, 2006 10:19 am

Yeah? Why not?
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Postby Tacks » Wed Nov 08, 2006 10:22 am

You obviously haven't done much parenting.
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Postby Insanityfair » Wed Nov 08, 2006 10:23 am

Ginzburgh wrote:
Hm, do the kids belong with the dad who lived off mom's career and seems loserish in general, or the mom who believes in driving off with her kid in her lap totally ignoring the fact that there are laws against that... man, that's a tough call....I would like to see an option "C" they go with social services, but I'm sure it won't happen.


In her defense, she drove away with the kid on her lap because he was freaking out because they were being totally bombarded by paparazzi. So rather than elbowing her way through the crowd of photographers, trying to buckle her kid into the car seat in the back seat while dudes are shoving cameras in your face and into the car and into your kids face, she jumped in the car with the kid on her lap, went two blocks, pulled over and strapped the kid in.

Hardly grounds for social services.


It's still illegal no matter what, I don't pity her because she's a celebrity and has camera issues. Granted I think there are times when she's been photographed and it's just been bad timing (her tripping holding her son, for instance) but when I went through a driving class for my work, one of the stories they told was about a grandma who had her grandchild in her lap while driving, and when hit the child flew like a bullet, and went through the windshield. Worst case scenario? Perhaps. But car seats exist for a reason, and are law for a reason, and by letting her off for any reason just sets a poor example for everyone else.
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Postby Ginzburgh » Wed Nov 08, 2006 10:29 am

You obviously haven't done much parenting.


At least when I become a parent I will be parenting my own children.

It's still illegal no matter what, I don't pity her because she's a celebrity and has camera issues. Granted I think there are times when she's been photographed and it's just been bad timing (her tripping holding her son, for instance) but when I went through a driving class for my work, one of the stories they told was about a grandma who had her grandchild in her lap while driving, and when hit the child flew like a bullet, and went through the windshield. Worst case scenario? Perhaps. But car seats exist for a reason, and are law for a reason, and by letting her off for any reason just sets a poor example for everyone else.


I'm not going to argue with you because you are incapable of putting yourself in someone else’s shoes. You obviously don’t like Britney Spears, you probably didn't like her before this incident and this incident has just given you ALL the justification in the world to label her a baaaaaaaaaad mother. Congrats, you knew it all along.
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Postby Tacks » Wed Nov 08, 2006 10:30 am

It has nothing to do with if you like her or not. What happens if she slams on her brakes avoiding the paparazzi and her airbag goes off? You need to be on kids 100% of the time, not 95% of the time.

Making smart remarks at me about parenting? I plan on having my own if you must know.
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Postby Ginzburgh » Wed Nov 08, 2006 10:31 am

Lucky child.

And have you considered that it might have been impossible to strap her kid into the car seat. Like there is no room to maneuver because there are 25 dudes with cameras pressed up against you?

And lets just say for the sake of arguing, ok, she made a bad decision. You honestly think thats grounds for taking the kid away from her mother and putting the kid in a foster home?

rofl. Oh yeah, it has nothing to do with not liking Britney Spears.
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Postby Tacks » Wed Nov 08, 2006 10:32 am

How's that have anything to do with Britney Spears' child?
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Postby Ginzburgh » Wed Nov 08, 2006 10:36 am

You're the one that brought up my parenting skills douche bag. If your personality on NT is anything like your parenting skills, you're child is going to grow up to be a fucking jerk.
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Postby Insanityfair » Wed Nov 08, 2006 10:40 am

Ginzburgh wrote:
You obviously haven't done much parenting.


At least when I become a parent I will be parenting my own children.

It's still illegal no matter what, I don't pity her because she's a celebrity and has camera issues. Granted I think there are times when she's been photographed and it's just been bad timing (her tripping holding her son, for instance) but when I went through a driving class for my work, one of the stories they told was about a grandma who had her grandchild in her lap while driving, and when hit the child flew like a bullet, and went through the windshield. Worst case scenario? Perhaps. But car seats exist for a reason, and are law for a reason, and by letting her off for any reason just sets a poor example for everyone else.


I'm not going to argue with you because you are incapable of putting yourself in someone else’s shoes. You obviously don’t like Britney Spears, you probably didn't like her before this incident and this incident has just given you ALL the justification in the world to label her a baaaaaaaaaad mother. Congrats, you knew it all along.



"Britney Spears, whose every move makes the tabloids, drove away from a Malibu Starbucks on Monday with her 4-month-old son, Sean Preston, in her lap and her bodyguard sitting next to her in the passenger seat. This despite the fact that California requires that children ride in car seats secured in the back seat of a vehicle until they are 6 or weigh 60 pounds. "

Do not care who she is, it's illegal. Plus, she was already in her vehicle, so would it really have been that difficult to lean over and belt him in his seat? No, not at all.

"But Sally Lee, editor of Parents magazine, says there is no excuse for driving with a baby in your lap, because if there's an accident, the child "becomes a projectile or is crushed between the mother and the steering wheel," she says."

That's why it's illegal.

"According to the Post, Spears drove for at least two miles along the Pacific Coast Highway in Malibu on Monday."

Two blocks? Really?

Don't try to muddle it up and say "Oh you just don't like poor Britney hurr." That's irrelevant. She broke the law, and the only reason she didn't get cited it sounded like is because no deputy saw it firsthand. Grats mother of the year.
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Postby Tikker » Wed Nov 08, 2006 10:40 am

Tacks wrote:You obviously haven't done much parenting.


please give us examples of your obvious exemplary and extensive parenting experiences
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Postby Insanityfair » Wed Nov 08, 2006 10:41 am

Ginzburgh wrote:Lucky child.

And have you considered that it might have been impossible to strap her kid into the car seat. Like there is no room to maneuver because there are 25 dudes with cameras pressed up against you?

And lets just say for the sake of arguing, ok, she made a bad decision. You honestly think thats grounds for taking the kid away from her mother and putting the kid in a foster home?

rofl. Oh yeah, it has nothing to do with not liking Britney Spears.


She was in the vehicle and had managed to unstrap her child while still inside the vehicle, would you like to tell me she couldn't have strapped him back in? She was waiting on her bodyguard who went to get coffee. Good try though.
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Postby Ginzburgh » Wed Nov 08, 2006 10:54 am

please give us examples of your obvious exemplary and extensive parenting experiences


I don't remember saying I have any. It doesn't take a parent to realize that taking a kid away from his mother because she didn't strap him into a car seat (one time) is a bit over the top. That IS what your girlfriend suggested.
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Postby Ginzburgh » Wed Nov 08, 2006 10:56 am

And to answer your original question Taxx, I would rather Britney Spears watch my child than say someone like you.

But it's great to see you removed your tail from between your legs and came back to NT.
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Postby Insanityfair » Wed Nov 08, 2006 11:02 am

Ginzburgh wrote:
please give us examples of your obvious exemplary and extensive parenting experiences


I don't remember saying I have any. It doesn't take a parent to realize that taking a kid away from his mother because she didn't strap him into a car seat (one time) is a bit over the top. That IS what your girlfriend suggested.


You quoted Tikker. I *think* Tikker was talking to Taxx but I'm not entirely sure.

And you still have yet to dispute anything I've said except that social services shouldn't take her child away for that one "mistake". She's lucky her one "mistake" didn't cost her child his life. It wasn't just a "mistake". She broke the law and every article I read proved it was easily avoidable. So it's just another case of stupidity and child endangerment left unchecked.
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Postby Ginzburgh » Wed Nov 08, 2006 11:09 am

I will admit she made a mistake. Millions of parents make mistakes with their children every day. Probably because parents are human beings and human beings make mistakes.

What I am disputing is the fact that you think the child should be taken away because of that mistake. Which I think is ridiculously over the top.

And that's it :dunno:
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Postby Tikker » Wed Nov 08, 2006 11:09 am

Insanityfair wrote:
Ginzburgh wrote:
please give us examples of your obvious exemplary and extensive parenting experiences


I don't remember saying I have any. It doesn't take a parent to realize that taking a kid away from his mother because she didn't strap him into a car seat (one time) is a bit over the top. That IS what your girlfriend suggested.


You quoted Tikker. I *think* Tikker was talking to Taxx but I'm not entirely sure.

And you still have yet to dispute anything I've said except that social services shouldn't take her child away for that one "mistake". She's lucky her one "mistake" didn't cost her child his life. It wasn't just a "mistake". She broke the law and every article I read proved it was easily avoidable. So it's just another case of stupidity and child endangerment left unchecked.


Yeah, you lose Ginz

I kinda of assumed that since I originally quoted Taxx it would have been obvious
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Postby Ginzburgh » Wed Nov 08, 2006 11:10 am

Lose what? rofl
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Postby Tikker » Wed Nov 08, 2006 11:11 am

lose at the internet you retard
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Postby Ginzburgh » Wed Nov 08, 2006 11:14 am

Rofl ok.

You lose for even making a statement that fucking retarded.
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Postby Tacks » Wed Nov 08, 2006 11:14 am

Actually you both do. For one Ginz was the one disagreeing with Insanityfair yet cannot debate simple statements she makes and instead starts shit flinging towards me. So concede that she's right or actually debate her points. Tikker loses because he has absolutely no fucking clue what he's talking about.
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Postby Insanityfair » Wed Nov 08, 2006 11:15 am

Ginzburgh wrote:I will admit she made a mistake. Millions of parents make mistakes with their children every day. Probably because parents are human beings and human beings make mistakes.

What I am disputing is the fact that you think the child should be taken away because of that mistake. Which I think is ridiculously over the top.

And that's it :dunno:


And that's fine, you see it as a mistake, I see it as hey, she broke the law and endangered her child. Have I ever made mistakes as a parent? Sure, but mine have never ever remotely come close to being illegal or endangering my children. I think if they would have taken her child from her on the spot and put him in temporary foster care and followed it up with parenting classes and evals like a lot of parents who do stupid stuff have had to, that would have been fine, but they didn't. Don't get me wrong, the problem isn't just with her, but with social services as well.
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