Water War Brewing Along Mexican Border Tuesday, December 5, 2006 3:55 AM EST The Associated Press By DAVID KRAVETS
SAN FRANCISCO (AP) — Bush administration lawyers are urging a federal appeals court to allow a section of a canal separating California and Mexico to be lined with cement to stop millions of gallons of water from seeping south of the border each year.
The lining is proposed along a portion of the 82-mile All-American Canal that delivers Colorado River water to crop land on both sides of the border about 100 miles east of San Diego.
The U.S. government says Mexico already gets 489 billion gallons of Colorado River water legitimately each year under a 1944 treaty and isn't entitled to the seepage, which provides a farming lifeline in Mexico.
A Justice Department attorney told a panel of three appellate judges on Monday that Mexicans have no right to the water, which is also the lifeblood for 500,000 acres of U.S. farmland.
The lining project will provide enough water for 135,000 new homes in the San Diego area.
All three judges suggested during oral arguments in the case Monday that people in Mexico might not have legal standing to assert a claim for the water in U.S. courts.
"How does a constitutional barrier against takings of property in the United States apply to somebody's property in Mexico?" Judge John Noonan asked.
The San Francisco-based appeals court temporarily blocked construction of the $210 million, 23-mile-long lining in August after Mexican business interests and U.S. environmental groups sued.
The lawsuit claims there would be significant job losses on the Mexican side of the border as thousands of acres of crops would turn to dust, that Mexican wells would become polluted without the seepage and migratory birds would be threatened if wetlands disappeared.
R. Gaylord Smith, an attorney for Consejo de Desarrollo Economico de Mexicali, a Mexican business group, argued that the U.S. has abandoned rights to the water.
Judge Sidney Thomas said the U.S. might have abandoned the water, but that doesn't mean "somebody else acquires it."
Malissa Hathaway, another attorney for the business group, argued the canal project would be detrimental to both sides of the border.
"No one has looked at the economic effects of taking land out of production," she said.
Water consumption spurred by breakneck growth in Southern California prompted Western states to complain they weren't getting their share of Colorado River water. The dispute resulted in a water redistribution deal that included the lining project as California settled for less water.
Colorado River water first flowed to California's arid southeast in 1901 on the Alamo Canal, which dipped into Mexico. California farmers soon decided they needed a canal completely within the United States, leading to completion of the All-American in 1942.
Critics of the project say migrants might die crossing a lined canal because concrete will deprive desperate swimmers of tall grasses to grab. While the canal appears calm, migrants who cram onto inflatable rafts could be swept away by a fierce undercurrent.
The appeals court did not indicate when it would rule.
The Mexican government is not a party to the case, but disapproved of the lining in court briefs.
According to the definition of genocide written by the UN, preventing water from flowing into Mexico is a direct assault on their well-being.
In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:
(a) Killing members of the group; (b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group; (c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part; (d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group; (e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.
Gargamellow wrote:According to the definition of genocide written by the UN, preventing water from flowing into Mexico is a direct assault on their well-being.
In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:
(a) Killing members of the group; (b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group; (c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part; (d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group; (e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.
The people who live in the area need that water. Taking it away is an attempt to control them. Just like when the buffalo were slaughtered to take control of the American Indians.
And Mexico is just a few miles down the road. I don't think you should rock the boat you are sitting in. I am in no mood for some kind of invasion. Enough people have died already.
Mexico allready has invaded us. If your worried bout a full on military assault from them them your livin in a dream world. We need to take measures to controll them and punish them for what they have allready done any chance we get.
WHITE TRASH METAL SLUMMER Why Immortal technique? Perhaps its because I am afraid and he gives me courage.
The Mexican Cession (red) and the Gadsden Purchase (orange)The Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo, signed on February 2, 1848, ended the war and gave the U.S undisputed control of Texas as well as California, Nevada, Utah, and parts of Colorado, Arizona, New Mexico, and Wyoming. In return, Mexico received US$18,250,000. Mexicans living in the conquered lands could choose to return to Mexico or stay and become American citizens. Article X was struck from the treaty before it was ratified by the U.S. Senate. These articles promised that the United States would recognize Mexican and Spanish land grants.
Ok smart ass. Whos paying for all the aliens? What are the aliens causing to happen to the native people of the land ?? With that said you can prolly figure out why i could care less if we dam up ever source of water running into thier shitty country.
WHITE TRASH METAL SLUMMER Why Immortal technique? Perhaps its because I am afraid and he gives me courage.
Gargamellow wrote:According to the definition of genocide written by the UN, preventing water from flowing into Mexico is a direct assault on their well-being.
In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:
(a) Killing members of the group; (b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group; (c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part; (d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group; (e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.
I highlighted the key word there for you. Prove the intent and you have a case. Currently the reasoning given (ie the stated intent) is to use that which under an agreement by both sides is rightfully given to one side and in doing so stopping the illegitimate use by the other.
Raymond S. Kraft wrote:The history of the world is the history of civilizational clashes, cultural clashes. All wars are about ideas, ideas about what society and civilization should be like, and the most determined always win.
Those who are willing to be the most ruthless always win. The pacifists always lose, because the anti-pacifists kill them.
