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Postby Gaazy » Tue Dec 05, 2006 2:00 pm

It will be a cold day in hell when the get any kind of reparations out of me for something I had no hand in, nor did anyone I have even come close to knowing :ugh:
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Postby Jimmy Durante » Tue Dec 05, 2006 2:01 pm

Zanchief wrote:Don't you dare rag on the freeman.


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Postby Gargamellow » Tue Dec 05, 2006 2:04 pm

reading is very important..thanks for the link..i just saved it to my kids' fav list
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Postby Zanchief » Tue Dec 05, 2006 2:05 pm

Jay wrote:The point is, people shouldn't blame racism for being failures in life. Sadly Garg, you're white, so you really don't have an excuse.


You and Freeman are right, it won't do you any good to whine about racism. It doesn't invalidate the point though.
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Postby Gargamellow » Tue Dec 05, 2006 2:06 pm

The chief is cute AND smart! Ladies..get in line for this guy!
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Postby Zanchief » Tue Dec 05, 2006 2:07 pm

oh my...
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Postby Spazz » Tue Dec 05, 2006 2:20 pm

Better back away from my lady CANADIEN.
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Postby Gargamellow » Tue Dec 05, 2006 2:22 pm

i love canada..i took some flack in class the other night for saying that out loud..it was hilarious

and lol spazz....what a relief your comment was..this board has been so dreary today...not enough funny stuff

normally something awful has been posted by noon
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Postby Zanchief » Tue Dec 05, 2006 2:26 pm

spazz wrote:Better back away from my lady CANADIEN.


Canadian.
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Postby DESX » Tue Dec 05, 2006 2:32 pm

Zanchief wrote:
spazz wrote:Better back away from my lady CANADIEN.


Canadian.


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Postby Zanchief » Tue Dec 05, 2006 2:34 pm

We are very good at it, but number one might be a little presumptuous.
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Postby Gargamellow » Tue Dec 05, 2006 2:36 pm

I like low profile of Canada. I also respect the ways they have handled some key issues.
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Postby Xaiveir » Tue Dec 05, 2006 2:41 pm

Gargamellow wrote:I like low profile of Canada. I also respect the ways they have handled some key issues.



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Postby Gargamellow » Tue Dec 05, 2006 2:49 pm

health care for starters..i don't fully understand it..but i do have some bit of a clue
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Postby Ginzburgh » Tue Dec 05, 2006 3:18 pm

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Postby Xaiveir » Tue Dec 05, 2006 3:29 pm

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Postby The Kizzy » Tue Dec 05, 2006 4:35 pm

OhMyGolly, she sounds JUST like Mindia used to. "I already answered your question" "You are all mindless sheep"
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Postby Gargamellow » Tue Dec 05, 2006 4:37 pm

baaa baaa....that would be you, beefcake
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Postby Tikker » Tue Dec 05, 2006 4:53 pm

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Ginzburgh wrote:My brother took the firefighter test in a big city in connecticut. Out of 1,500 guys he scored in the top 200 and guys that were black that were scoring 800+ were getting the job over him.


Your brother is a fucking liar.

This is the damn if you do damned if you don't attitude that I hate so much.

You see a successful black man and it's because of affirmative action, no way he got there on his own. You see an unsuccessful black man and you curse him for being a sponge.

This is why the black community has to try twice as hard to get where they are. Perception like this is why affirmative action exists.


Bullshit

I've worked with HR before, in facilitating new hires

minority races are FAVOURED for hires, not so much that you take unqualified over qualified, but if you're a black/native/visible minority/woman you get the job over the white dude 100% of the time

if you're disabled, it's a golden ticket
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Postby araby » Tue Dec 05, 2006 6:51 pm

I still maintain that people naturally want to be surrounded by people they have things in common with, whether it be because of race or family status, or age or financial status...it's just normal to be among each other.

there are ignorant people and there are racist people. and both of course.

the good point that arlos made was that the true issue is really "what to do about it" because it's clear the problem is there.

i think it'd help to do the obvious and live in communities with grocery stores, laundromats, theaters, schools, etc-everything within walking distance (to promote exercise-which they're already doing check it out on cnn :google: ) anyway...smaller communites for families creates opportunities for friendships in communities. nowadays noone knows their neighbor anymore. I think the communities would naturally become populated and we'd find that we are living around/hanging out with the people we want to be around.

I mean, I never see very many mixed couples and when I do it doesn't freak me out in any way at all. People have rights to their preferences and some people don't hate black people or asians (anyone who feels slighted) and yet they freak out when they see them with someone of their own race. I dont', but yah it happens and what do you do about those people?

mindia is repulsed by fat chicks. he isn't afraid to say it. you might call him shallow but I call it honest. people have preferences. I'm attracted to white guys but I don't hate black people. is it racist? or is it preference? It's racist when people hate black people because of their skin color and those groups are fewer these days. they exist but they are certainly out-numbered which makes them a minority. do you hate people that hate? because-that makes you exactly what they are.

what do you do about the people who hate? you can't change people's minds. the ignorant generation is moving out, the more accepting/tolerant generation is coming in but it doesn't mean they are good at it or even that much more than we are and our previous generations were. we do know they're going to be better-even than we were. we already see it.

time is taking care of it on a societal level..individually-just like someone else said, is the ONLY way to do anything about it right now in your lifetime. every time you post, every time you say something that someone hears, etc. even if you're joking (which I am guilty of but I have no hate i promise) what you said is still what it is.

people take generalizing a race based on behavior as being racist but i don't-I just think it's ignorant.
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Postby Harrison » Tue Dec 05, 2006 7:09 pm

Zanchief wrote:
Ginzburgh wrote:My brother took the firefighter test in a big city in connecticut. Out of 1,500 guys he scored in the top 200 and guys that were black that were scoring 800+ were getting the job over him.


Your brother is a fucking liar.

This is the damn if you do damned if you don't attitude that I hate so much.

You see a successful black man and it's because of affirmative action, no way he got there on his own. You see an unsuccessful black man and you curse him for being a sponge.

This is why the black community has to try twice as hard to get where they are. Perception like this is why affirmative action exists.


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Postby Gargamellow » Tue Dec 05, 2006 8:20 pm

race and weiught are two entirely different things altogether and it is completely ridiculous to compare them

secondly..chief is right
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Postby araby » Tue Dec 05, 2006 8:47 pm

the connection is that they are both discriminated against
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Postby Gargamellow » Tue Dec 05, 2006 8:52 pm

discrimination against fat people is nothing like discrimination against peopleof color..the two cannot be compared
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Postby Mop » Tue Dec 05, 2006 9:31 pm

It's different in ways, but very similar in ways too
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