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Naethyn · Post by **Naethyn** » Wed Dec 06, 2006 10:15 am

Zanchief wrote:When you die in WoW you lose money.

When you die in EQ at the end game you lose absolutely nothing.

How about time?

That is worth more to me than any ingame currency.

Zanchief · Post by **Zanchief** » Wed Dec 06, 2006 10:17 am

Good reason to play WoW, less time sinks.

Tacks · Post by **Tacks** » Wed Dec 06, 2006 10:20 am

Like I said on page 2? Opinions are worthless unless they're based on something meaningful.

So far you've basically said what I told you back on the first page. If you implanted your characters from EQ and friends to WoW you would like it. You're so OBSESSED with EQ that you can't legitimately make an opinion.

So far your basis for not liking it are "the mountains are ugly", "i don't talk to anyone", "i don't want to group with anyone".

I'm sorry you're using a Dell and a 15 inch CRT from 2003 and can't play games the way they're supposed to be.

The point is, ANYONE can have an opinion. Your opinion only actually means anything (to other people) when you actually have a basis to form one.

Gargamellow · Post by **Gargamellow** » Wed Dec 06, 2006 10:21 am

eq has a corpse summoning zone..you can spend your money there

Naethyn · Post by **Naethyn** » Wed Dec 06, 2006 10:32 am

Zanchief wrote:Good reason to play WoW, less time sinks.

As much as I hated them, some of the finest moments I had in eq was on a CR.

Gargamellow · Post by **Gargamellow** » Wed Dec 06, 2006 10:38 am

ya..i love an interesting cr..sometimes u have to still do it if u want to stay somewhere...so like..u send a necro down with an essence emerald and they can fd their way to the party and stuff and like rez the cle and stuff and then we win YAY

Narrock · Post by **Narrock** » Wed Dec 06, 2006 10:38 am

HAHA best sig in a long time, Naethyn! :hiphop:

Gargamellow · Post by **Gargamellow** » Wed Dec 06, 2006 10:42 am

yes i agree it is for the win

Tikker · Post by **Tikker** » Wed Dec 06, 2006 11:42 am

Zanchief wrote:When you die in WoW you lose money.

When you die in EQ at the end game you lose absolutely nothing.

that's not really a valid comparison

go back to the lvling days

in EQ if you died, you lost XP, which cost you time in lvling
to make leveling easier, you learned not to die

in WoW death is basically meaningless
dying doesn't cause people to rethink what they're doing, they just try to race back and beat respawn and continue on their merry way

it's definitely more user friendly, but when you get to high lvl, there's 75383175315731 more retards that don't know what they're doing

Gargamellow · Post by **Gargamellow** » Wed Dec 06, 2006 11:48 am

"user friendly"

Tacks · Post by **Tacks** » Wed Dec 06, 2006 12:57 pm

as compared to "archaic"

Zanchief · Post by **Zanchief** » Wed Dec 06, 2006 1:05 pm

I ride a mule to work everyday because I find cars to "user friendly".

Gargamellow · Post by **Gargamellow** » Wed Dec 06, 2006 1:05 pm

There is a lot good to be said about both EQ and WoW.

EQ has awesome detail and vast areas to explore and manipulate. A character practically becomes an extention of one's self when engaged in a battle on EQ. The society is well-developed as a result of age. If one prefers this kind of game, it is supreme.

WoW has awesome dancing and other little things that are amusing. It also has the icon-style gameplay which allows people who have no time to play an mmorpg without cutting too deeply into their lives. Quests are also much easier to find and follow than in EQ.

However, it is those kinds of advances that actually take away from the game for me. I prefer EQ because I enjoy it being "archaic."

Tacks · Post by **Tacks** » Wed Dec 06, 2006 1:13 pm

Well now i'm completely confused. You still watch VHS instead of DVD? Playing EQ on a Tandy? Bunny ears on your TV?

EQ has awesome detail and vast areas to explore and manipulate.

WoW lore is just as (if not more) developed and spread through every zone/quest that you do. WoW also doesn't have 15 different "filler" zones that EQ has.

A character practically becomes an extention of one's self when engaged in a battle on EQ.

LOL what? I guess it depends on how obsessed you are with the game you're currently playing. You could say your MUD character from 1989 was an extension of yourself while playing if you wanted to. :dunno:

If you're talking about player involvement in battles then WoW is far and away more "involving" than anything EQ ever had. Nobody in WoW mezzes a mob for 30 minutes in a row or goes AFK tanking a mob or sets up a Cheal macro. Even at level 19 a character skillset is more complicated than a level 70 EQ character.

The society is well-developed as a result of age. If one prefers this kind of game, it is supreme.

I've said about 200 times now that the community is what made the game. That still has NOTHING to do with the actual game or gameplay mechanics...you just refuse to acknowledge this.

I view the games as actual games to play and not social getaways. Since "chatting" seems to be about the only thing you've pointed out that is better in EQ I guess you should compare the chat program within the two :rofl:

Gargamellow · Post by **Gargamellow** » Wed Dec 06, 2006 1:16 pm

I don't own a DVD or a VCR.

I told you why I like EQ.

Most of the people I knew on EQ are gone now. Yet there I am. Me and the few lifers in AH who keep logging on and playing their game in silitude like I do.

Why is it so hard to grasp?

I am not trying to insult your WoW. I am not saying it doesn't have a lot more cool things that I haven't even seen yet.

I am saying, I have seen what EQ has to offer, and I prefer EQ. I don't have any money, Taxx. I can't fucking afford to play more than one mmorpg, or I would.

Tacks · Post by **Tacks** » Wed Dec 06, 2006 1:19 pm

You're missing the entire point. And from that post you're basically agreeing with what I have to say. I could care less which game you like more, but if you're going to make comparisons then at least put some logic into it. Imagine if you had to write a review for the game for a major publisher, would you actually say "i don't like the mountains and don't like grouping, ever"?

I've already said 100 times I realize why you love EQ and that's because of your guild (and not actually the game) yet you keep arguing the point.

Honestly what percentage of the time would you say you actually spend in "playing" the game as opposed to just socializing?

Why is it so hard to grasp?

What? I've already pointed it out 5-6 times this thread but you keep ignoring it.

Gargamellow · Post by **Gargamellow** » Wed Dec 06, 2006 1:25 pm

ok i see what is happening here

you have played wow so long that your loyalties are with wow...mine are with eq...

that is why i see what i see in eq..and u see much of the same in wow

let's leave it alone..cuz we can't see eye to eye....
there ain't no good guy

there ain't no bad guy

there's only u and me and we just disagree

(a country song)

Zanchief · Post by **Zanchief** » Wed Dec 06, 2006 1:27 pm

7,000,000 people disagree with you.

300,000 disagree with Taxx.

Gargamellow · Post by **Gargamellow** » Wed Dec 06, 2006 1:30 pm

the majority of people are sheep

Post by **Lyion** » Wed Dec 06, 2006 1:35 pm

Popularity does not make a product better. By that analysis you must be a huge Justin Timberlake fan.

Garg, WOW is a far superior game than EQ NOW. In the day, EQ was king, but again broadband and gaming were much, much more isolated back then. Also, just realize WOW is in itself an EQ clone at it's heart. It absorbs the Diku philosophy and pushes a casual friendly approach to MMOs that EQ never has had, so it is mainstreamed. It also was released 5+ years later so it's been able to improve and present a more advanced product. It's like comparing an old Toyota with a new one and saying they are just as safe.

EQ still has many subscribers even after 7+ years which is a tribute to its design, as well as a host of games that have copied and based their MMOs off it, WOW included. However it still is what it is. A seven year old game with 'features', as Brad would put it, that many do not remember fondly.

Games are personal choice, but if you are going to compare and contrast, give features, reasons, and an underlying why you feel one is better than the other so that people can discuss it with you.

Gargamellow · Post by **Gargamellow** » Wed Dec 06, 2006 1:37 pm

You know what..no matter what I do you guys are never satisfied.

You told me to try it. I tried it. I am still trying it.

EQ is better because it has more to offer and is harder to play, in my opinion. It challenges me still after 7 years. I love EQ.

WoW is the same kind of thing, only faster, more convenient, user-friendly...

both are pretty in their own ways.,..

the only way i can explain iss by comparing the things they have in common..like i have already done

stop judging me for what i dig u comme bastards!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Naethyn · Post by **Naethyn** » Wed Dec 06, 2006 1:40 pm

AA points.

There. I said it.

Thats why EQ > wow

Gargamellow · Post by **Gargamellow** » Wed Dec 06, 2006 1:41 pm

<3 naet

Tacks · Post by **Tacks** » Wed Dec 06, 2006 1:44 pm

Nobody is judging you for what you like. You've just yet to make a coherent point as to exactly WHY you would like something. So far it's been exactly what I said on page 1. You like the community better.

You're acting like people hate EQ. It couldn't be further from the truth. EQ is basically one of my favorite games of all time. With that being said, it's hard to debate with you when you say things like "EQ has more to offer" or that you enjoy a game because it's LESS user friendly.

EQ was and still is a great game. WoW is EQ improved.

Tacks · Post by **Tacks** » Wed Dec 06, 2006 1:46 pm

In the end, anyone who wants to have all the AA points can still get them. All AA points promote is more XP grinding to get you to re-up your account every month.

With talent sets every character is different. The versatility of classes isn't even comparable in the two.

AA points is a linear timesink and nothing more.