Wishes

Post by **Martrae** » Tue Dec 19, 2006 2:14 pm

For My Democrat Friends:

Please accept with no obligation, implied or implicit, my best wishes for an environmentally conscious, socially responsible, low-stress, non-addictive, gender-neutral celebration of the winter solstice holiday, practiced within the most enjoyable traditions of the religious persuasion of your choice, or secular practices of your choice, with respect for the religious/secular persuasion and/or traditions of others, or their choice not to practice religious or secular traditions at all. I also wish you a fiscally successful, personally fulfilling and medically uncomplicated recognition of the onset of the generally accepted calendar year 2007, but not without due respect for the calendars of choice of other cultures whose contributions to society have helped make America great. Not to imply that America is necessarily greater than any other country nor the only America in the Western Hemisphere . Also, this wish is made without regard to the race, creed, color, age, physical ability, religious faith or sexual preference of the wish.

By accepting these greetings, you are accepting the aforementioned terms as stated. This greeting is not subject to clarification or withdrawal. It is freely transferable with no alteration to the original greeting. It implies no promise by the wisher to actually implement any of the wishes for herself/himself/others, and is void where prohibited by law and is revocable at the sole discretion of the wisher. This wish is warranted to perform as expected within the usual application of good tidings for a period of one year or until the issuance of a subsequent holiday greeting, whichever comes first, and warranty is limited to replacement of this wish or issuance of a new wish at the sole discretion of the wish

For My Republican Friends:
Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year!

kaharthemad · Post by **kaharthemad** » Tue Dec 19, 2006 2:19 pm

Tacks · Post by **Tacks** » Tue Dec 19, 2006 2:22 pm

Zanchief · Post by **Zanchief** » Tue Dec 19, 2006 2:24 pm

HAHA inclusion is so hilarious!

Tae-Bo · Post by **Tae-Bo** » Tue Dec 19, 2006 2:30 pm

you forgot the part where the republican wishes for the deaths of all who oppose their views and also wishing for slavery to come back

kaharthemad · Post by **kaharthemad** » Tue Dec 19, 2006 3:01 pm

hmmm wasnt it a president of the republican party that fought against slavery? oh yeah it was...

As for opposing views they have not shot you yet have they?

Lionking · Post by **Lionking** » Tue Dec 19, 2006 3:02 pm

Martrae wrote:For My Democrat Friends:

Please accept with no obligation, implied or implicit, my best wishes for an environmentally conscious, socially responsible, low-stress, non-addictive, gender-neutral celebration of the winter solstice holiday, practiced within the most enjoyable traditions of the religious persuasion of your choice, or secular practices of your choice, with respect for the religious/secular persuasion and/or traditions of others, or their choice not to practice religious or secular traditions at all. I also wish you a fiscally successful, personally fulfilling and medically uncomplicated recognition of the onset of the generally accepted calendar year 2007, but not without due respect for the calendars of choice of other cultures whose contributions to society have helped make America great. Not to imply that America is necessarily greater than any other country nor the only America in the Western Hemisphere . Also, this wish is made without regard to the race, creed, color, age, physical ability, religious faith or sexual preference of the wish.

By accepting these greetings, you are accepting the aforementioned terms as stated. This greeting is not subject to clarification or withdrawal. It is freely transferable with no alteration to the original greeting. It implies no promise by the wisher to actually implement any of the wishes for herself/himself/others, and is void where prohibited by law and is revocable at the sole discretion of the wisher. This wish is warranted to perform as expected within the usual application of good tidings for a period of one year or until the issuance of a subsequent holiday greeting, whichever comes first, and warranty is limited to replacement of this wish or issuance of a new wish at the sole discretion of the wish

For My Republican Friends:
Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year!

Tae-Bo · Post by **Tae-Bo** » Tue Dec 19, 2006 3:02 pm

republicans are trying to kill me

kaharthemad · Post by **kaharthemad** » Tue Dec 19, 2006 3:03 pm

well we know where you are right now...sit tight. We will get to you in a second

Post by **Arlos** » Tue Dec 19, 2006 3:10 pm

wasnt it a president of the republican party that fought against slavery? oh yeah it was...

As if either party bears any resemblance whatsoever to the parties of the same names that existed in the 1850s and 1860s. Please.

As for the original joke, it doesn't even regester a 1 on the "Heh-o-Meter"

A more accurate version would be:

From The Democrats:

Happy Holidays, everyone!

From the Republicans:

Merry Christmas, cause we don't give a rats's ass about any religion other than Fundamentalist Christianity!

Funny how it's strictly the Religious Right that's up in arms about using Happy Holidays. I mean, sure, it's SUCH a imposition to actually have to recognize that more religions than Christianity have important celebrations this time of year. I mean, we all know that non-christians such as Jews, etc. are second-class citizens, regardless of what that pesky Constitution says, so lets be up in arms about recognizing their celebrations by bitching about saying "Happy Holidays!"

Fucking bullshit.

-Arlos

Zanchief · Post by **Zanchief** » Tue Dec 19, 2006 3:12 pm

It's scary to include other people's beliefs, and if conservatives are anything, they are big fucking pussies.

Maeya · Post by **Maeya** » Tue Dec 19, 2006 3:19 pm

arlos wrote:Funny how it's strictly the Religious Right that's up in arms about using Happy Holidays. I mean, sure, it's SUCH a imposition to actually have to recognize that more religions than Christianity have important celebrations this time of year. I mean, we all know that non-christians such as Jews, etc. are second-class citizens, regardless of what that pesky Constitution says, so lets be up in arms about recognizing their celebrations by bitching about saying "Happy Holidays!"

Fucking bullshit.

-Arlos

You'd be a lot more informed than I, but I thought that people were mostly just up in arms about having a traditional symbol of the Christian holiday have it's named changed from "Christmas Tree" to "Holiday Tree", back whenever they tried to do that. I didn't know the greeting was riling everyone up, too.

People are ridiculous.

Re: the joke - I smiled

Tacks · Post by **Tacks** » Tue Dec 19, 2006 3:23 pm

Nice try Arlos, but using logic against the illogical won't get you anywhere.

You have to get through the 10 layers of wool over their eyes first.

Tikker · Post by **Tikker** » Tue Dec 19, 2006 3:24 pm

ps

christmas tree has very little to do with old school christians

Zanchief · Post by **Zanchief** » Tue Dec 19, 2006 3:28 pm

Maeya wrote:You'd be a lot more informed than I, but I thought that people were mostly just up in arms about having a traditional symbol of the Christian holiday have it's named changed from "Christmas Tree" to "Holiday Tree", back whenever they tried to do that. I didn't know the greeting was riling everyone up, too.

People are ridiculous.

Re: the joke - I smiled

Argument went like this Maeya.

Liberals: I think it would be nice if we started using Holiday instead of Christmas so that more people can enjoy in the wonderful holiday festivities.

Conservatives: Fuck everything that's different than me. Time to write a funny internet joke about it!

Post by **Martrae** » Tue Dec 19, 2006 4:04 pm

Hey Zan...how much did you win on Yul?

Funny how it's strictly the Religious Right that's up in arms about using Happy Holidays. I mean, sure, it's SUCH a imposition to actually have to recognize that more religions than Christianity have important celebrations this time of year. I mean, we all know that non-christians such as Jews, etc. are second-class citizens, regardless of what that pesky Constitution says, so lets be up in arms about recognizing their celebrations by bitching about saying "Happy Holidays!"

You want to know what's really wrong with this statement? Most of the Religious Right don't celebrate Christmas. Santa is the devil you know, only God knows when you've been bad or good.

The real people who are upset are the same ones that are sick of the needs of the one outweighing the needs of the many in our current society. The word Christmas is just the biggest target people can find to express dissatisfaction.

KaiineTN · Post by **KaiineTN** » Tue Dec 19, 2006 4:25 pm

Maybe we just need a new tree to be symbolic of the holidays in general.

Reminds me of Futurama when they use a Palm tree...

"Pine trees have been extinct for 800 years Fry! Gone the way of the poodle, and your primitive notions of modesty. Ahhh, brisk!"

Trielelvan · Post by **Trielelvan** » Tue Dec 19, 2006 4:34 pm

KaiineTN wrote:Reminds me of Futurama when they use a Palm tree...

Speaking of which... hey you guys in Cali - you have palm trees decorated with Christmas lights and tinsel too?
There's a house down the street here that has all 6 palms in their front yard completely covered in lights, and lighted reindeer and snowmen at the base.

I can't wait to move back up north ><

Post by **Arlos** » Tue Dec 19, 2006 4:35 pm

The real people who are upset are the same ones that are sick of the needs of the one outweighing the needs of the many in our current society.

Oh, so you'd prefer a society that ISN'T based on the premise that "All Men Are Created Equal"? Well, that certainly explains a lot about your other political positions; I finally understand where you're coming from.

I find it laughable that certain christians, apparently fans of the victimhood complex, have decided that, despite being able to worship completely freely, AND despite being the by-far majority religion, that they are somehow an oppressed people. That's patently ridiculous, to the point of absolute farce. You want to be oppressed, fine, lets start up the lion feedings again, OK? Oh, so you don't want to be THAT oppressed, you just want to whine any time any other religion wants to assert it's equality as guaranteed by the Constitution? Sorry, can't help you, and pardon me while I snicker derisively at you.

-Arlos

Post by **Martrae** » Tue Dec 19, 2006 4:56 pm

Wow...you have some serious issues and that's all I'm gonna say about your anti-religious tirade. This isn't about religion or lack of at all.

All men created equal doesn't mean some men are more equal than others and that's what's been happening in our country. New laws are constantly being added...eroding freedoms and self-reliance...because 1 person gets pissy about something minor and suddenly hundreds or thousands of people are affected by it. That isn't right. We are devolving from a country that prided on being able to stand on it's feet to one that needs 'daddy' (government) to tell them when it's ok to go take a leak. You CANNOT have an effective government if that government feels the need to control everyone and everything.

Harrison · Post by **Harrison** » Tue Dec 19, 2006 5:03 pm

arlos wrote:
The real people who are upset are the same ones that are sick of the needs of the one outweighing the needs of the many in our current society.

Oh, so you'd prefer a society that ISN'T based on the premise that "All Men Are Created Equal"? Well, that certainly explains a lot about your other political positions; I finally understand where you're coming from.

I find it laughable that certain christians, apparently fans of the victimhood complex, have decided that, despite being able to worship completely freely, AND despite being the by-far majority religion, that they are somehow an oppressed people. That's patently ridiculous, to the point of absolute farce. You want to be oppressed, fine, lets start up the lion feedings again, OK? Oh, so you don't want to be THAT oppressed, you just want to whine any time any other religion wants to assert it's equality as guaranteed by the Constitution? Sorry, can't help you, and pardon me while I snicker derisively at you.

-Arlos

I would put that faggoty baby to bed right now.

No one is created equal. No one is treated equally. There is no equality.

If you think there is in this country(as it is anywhere else) you're lying to yourself.

Narrock · Post by **Narrock** » Tue Dec 19, 2006 5:09 pm

Fuck democrats

oops, I dropped an F bomb. Silly me.

Post by **Arlos** » Tue Dec 19, 2006 5:13 pm

"Anti-religious tirade" Excuse me? Show me where I say ONE WORD against people having and practicing whatever religion they so choose? I merely pointed out that for Christians to claim persecution and oppression in this society is laughable, which it is.

Not to mention, I am *SO* sorry that the founding fathers felt it necessary to encode protection against the Tyranny of the Majority into the Constitution. I am sure you'd feel SO much better if the rights of the individual were freely able to be trampled upon just because that person's beliefs weren't as popular as some other people's. Oh yes, that would be a GLORIOUS society, wouldn't it.

Furthermore, I think I am adamantly on record about the Government staying out of everyone's private lives. What you do in your home, as long as it's not harming anyone non-consenting, is your business and no one elses. What religion you practice, what sex acts you practice, indeed whatever consenting adults wish to engage themselves in with other consenting adults, by all means, feel free, and the government should stay the hell out of it.

However, on the PUBLIC front, the government should display no bias or preference for any one religion, no matter how popular, as that's what is called for in the Constitution. Private individuals want to have a 10 commandments shrine in their lawn, or have daily re-enactments of the nativity and the passion in their back yard? More power to them, feel free. Such displays have no place, however, on PUBLIC land.

-Arlos

Narrock · Post by **Narrock** » Tue Dec 19, 2006 5:18 pm

To be fair to Arlos, I never saw him say anything against Christianity, or people having and practicing whatever religion they so choose.

Post by **Tossica** » Tue Dec 19, 2006 6:29 pm

Just when I thought Martrae wasn't a dumb cunt.

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