Hard family times

[Xaiveir]

your mac and cheese dings finished in the microwave.

Mmmmm mac and cheese 4tw!


Shells and cheese is better though imho.

[Trielelvan]

Shells and cheese is better though imho.

Totally!

I like the homemade stuff moreso than any boxed brand.

[Xaiveir]

Shells and cheese is better though imho.

Totally!

I like the homemade stuff moreso than any boxed brand.

Hell yeah the homemade is deffinatly better.

[10sun]

LOL.

You've got to be kidding... of those of you here posting against me, trying to insult me.... are you kidding? You sit in judgement of me?

Look at yourselves. Most you (I'm talking about those ranting against me, not the whole board) are over weight, barely educated, broke as shit, working barely above min wage jobs, working on your SECOND marriage, or just shacking up.

Go back to your pathetic mac and cheese lives. Really, your insults mean nothing to me.

Fat, broke, uneducated and pathetic... and you want to bash ME. LOL.

I can see you all know... hunched over your computer keyboard laughing like a retard at the thought of "I got Diekan lolz" while your mac and cheese dings finished in the microwave. Looking forward to getting out of your shack of a home to return to your pathetic floor mopping jobs come Monday morning.

Seriously - you're losers. You really are. Living in some pathetic world where your only source of self-importance is on some Internet message board.

So how many square feet is your house Diekan?

Also, has your salary afforded you the ability to get hair implanted from your ass to head? I think they implanted a bit more from your ass.

[Diekan]

Keep trying... you're not upsetting me in the least.

Jealousy is a bitch when you're just a poor every-day scumbag.

[Xaiveir]

Keep trying... you're not upsetting me in the least.

Jealousy is a bitch when you're just a poor every-day scumbag.

Answer me this though Diek...........




Do you like Shells and cheese...or Mac and cheese better?

[Harrison]

Grow up little boy.

You're measuring worth of life in a monetary scale, that alone speaks volumes of your depth of character. (Or the lack thereof I should say)

I repeat, has your PHAT OMGZ SALARY LOL gotten you happiness? I would judge by the content of your posts that you are one lonely, pathetic, bitter, pussy of a man.

Please, post again how I am "overweight, uneducated, and [insert generalization here]" It sure does drive the fact home that we are trying to point out to you.

[Xaiveir]

Grow up little boy.

You're measuring worth of life in a monetary scale, that alone speaks volumes of your depth of character. (Or the lack thereof I should say)

I repeat, has your PHAT OMGZ SALARY LOL gotten you happiness? I would judge by the content of your posts that you are one lonely, pathetic, bitter, pussy of a man.

Please, post again how I am "overweight, uneducated, and [insert generalization here]" It sure does drive the fact home that we are trying to point out to you.

Damn it man...dont distract him. I need answers!

[Harrison]

Uh oh, I'm sensing another book, he's on!

[Trielelvan]

Keep trying... you're not upsetting me in the least.

Jealousy is a bitch when you're just a poor every-day scumbag.

... and yet, you are still ranting a million miles a minute hurling spit and fire out of every nook and cranny... I think we hit some buttons somewhere.
You are still calling us poor, fat, pathetic losers, and we are still laughing at your display of "toughness." *jazz hands*
I still can't believe you jumped to fat jokes and $$ so quickly! I mean, that was truly disappointing, though completely expected *sigh* ah well.

In all seriousness though, not that it matters to you I'm sure, I'm actually quite sorry for what's happened to you. No one should have to go through what you went through with the kid and the first chick. Your past explains a lot about your blatant animosity, especially where females are concerned.

You did, however, prove me correct = deep down, you are scared shitless of any kind of real commitment because you are too paranoid of women taking advantage of you, and you either haven't got the balls or the brains to figure which will or won't. You just assume up front they all are out to get you, and aren't worth the time or money to invest in a serious relationship with. This also explains your perspective on the idea of more than one marriage (actually, I think it's marriage altogether for you... I think you believe it's dumb all around). I think you got lost there somewhere...

Point of fact: if you have had that many women take advantage of you, or try to at least, chances are, you are your own worst enemy here. You either give too much, or not at all. Find your gray area and actually do some retrospective learning from your past. You may find yourself a much happier person in the end.

[Harrison]

It's sad when *I* think I am a stronger person than someone else emotionally.

Given my past, it's kind of pathetic that you resort to that much of a defense mechanism before I do.

[araby]

that's a sad story, I'm sorry you went through that.

it helps to let go some of that if you're interested in looking for the right woman. right now diek it seems that as much as your heart is in it, (it being-making sure you locate the *right* woman for you) you are disabling much of a chance for a woman to let you know that she's the right one that you're looking for. you already have the idea that you can't trust any woman as far as you can throw her.

it's worked for me, so I suggest dealing with those things before trying to let a woman into your life, because you have your mind made up based on the hurt those women caused you, that no woman is trustworthy. but there are some women that are. just let it go, forgive them and you will be able to go forward in a positive direction. good luck to you =)

[The Kizzy]

After reading this WHOLE thread, I have a few comments to make myself.....

Diekan, I'm sorry that happened to you.

Kinghooter, I think I said it before, I think it is great that you are taking responsibility for this baby, even though it is not yours. But adoption? May be a bit extreme, and I would wait a few years on that and not because your wife is gonna screw you over and leave you blah blah blah, but for this reason.

Anyone can be a father, but it takes one hell of a man to be a Daddy. You will always be her Daddy if you are the one who helps raise her. Your name doesnt have to be on soe legal document. And maybe he doesn't deserve his daughter now, but in a few years, he might wake up and realize what he has lost. Even though he is a dick now, he could change, and that isn't really fair to anyone if it came down to that, and ALSO, if you adopt her then he has no financial responsibility for that child. That is so typical, he helped make her, yet he doesnt want to support her? Seems to me that you are letting him off the hook. Just something for you to think about.

[Harrison]

I take back what I said after reading his book.

Sorry for the loss man You still need to grow up and stop being a prick nonetheless.

[Narrock]

One thing I'll have to agree with Diekan on ( ) is that (most) younger women don't appreciate chivalry. That's not to say they are stupid or "cunts..." it's that they just don't care too much about chivalry (due in large part to how Hollywood has brainwashed them). To (most) younger women, chivalry = geek/pussy, etc.

What women want is a guy who is either: Stunningly attractive, has a muscular physique, has money, or is extremely confident. The nice/sweet/sincere guy who treats them like a "lady" always ends up getting hurt, because she will dump his ass and/or have a discrete relationship with a "badboy" on the side.

[10sun]

Best way to secure a hookup? Blow her off and let her see you with another girl who looks better.

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[Jay]

One thing I'll have to agree with Diekan on ( ) is that (most) younger women don't appreciate chivalry. That's not to say they are stupid or "cunts..." it's that they just don't care too much about chivalry (due in large part to how Hollywood has brainwashed them). To (most) younger women, chivalry = geek/pussy, etc.

What women want is a guy who is either: Stunningly attractive, has a muscular physique, has money, or is extremely confident. The nice/sweet/sincere guy who treats them like a "lady" always ends up getting hurt, because she will dump his ass and/or have a discrete relationship with a "badboy" on the side.

I disagree Erik. It's like this. That sweet, nice guy who treats them like a lady is 9 times out of 10 NOT sincere. He's doing it for the ass plain and simple. That or he feels if he pours on affection he's hoping to get it returned. Women can sniff that out and take advantage of it. I was like that. Got me walked on because I allowed it to happen. I finally woke up and realized that being a nice guy and getting a door for a lady should be an automatic reaction and have nothing to do with the courting process. I do it just to do it and not for any other reason. Nowadays I'm that same nice guy with no ulterior motive. Women see that that's just how I am and they are cool with that. Also, because I'm not plotting that ulterior motive, my mind is a little more open and I'm able to spot when a bitch is being trifling and I know when to take a walk.

And the thing about the "badboy" types. A lot of those assholes are assholes because they just are. That's just being real. Women see that, they see a genuine guy even if he is a genuine asshole. That's my take on it anyways.

[Martrae]

Congratz on not thinking with your dick anymore, Jay.

And, yes, we can smell desperation a mile away.

[Trielelvan]

I disagree Erik. It's like this. That sweet, nice guy who treats them like a lady is 9 times out of 10 NOT sincere. He's doing it for the ass plain and simple. That or he feels if he pours on affection he's hoping to get it returned. Women can sniff that out and take advantage of it. I was like that. Got me walked on because I allowed it to happen. I finally woke up and realized that being a nice guy and getting a door for a lady should be an automatic reaction and have nothing to do with the courting process. I do it just to do it and not for any other reason. Nowadays I'm that same nice guy with no ulterior motive. Women see that that's just how I am and they are cool with that. Also, because I'm not plotting that ulterior motive, my mind is a little more open and I'm able to spot with a bitch is being trifling and I know when to take a walk.

And the thing about the "badboy" types. A lot of those assholes are assholes because they they just are. That's just being real. Women see that, they see a genuine guy even if he is a genuine asshole. That's my take on it anyways.

Yep, you rock in my book. <3

and yeah, what Mart said - a lot of women do prey on desperation, and they will take full advantage of such men (women too, actually).

[Narrock]

One thing I'll have to agree with Diekan on ( ) is that (most) younger women don't appreciate chivalry. That's not to say they are stupid or "cunts..." it's that they just don't care too much about chivalry (due in large part to how Hollywood has brainwashed them). To (most) younger women, chivalry = geek/pussy, etc.

What women want is a guy who is either: Stunningly attractive, has a muscular physique, has money, or is extremely confident. The nice/sweet/sincere guy who treats them like a "lady" always ends up getting hurt, because she will dump his ass and/or have a discrete relationship with a "badboy" on the side.

I disagree Erik. It's like this. That sweet, nice guy who treats them like a lady is 9 times out of 10 NOT sincere. He's doing it for the ass plain and simple. That or he feels if he pours on affection he's hoping to get it returned. Women can sniff that out and take advantage of it. I was like that. Got me walked on because I allowed it to happen. I finally woke up and realized that being a nice guy and getting a door for a lady should be an automatic reaction and have nothing to do with the courting process. I do it just to do it and not for any other reason. Nowadays I'm that same nice guy with no ulterior motive. Women see that that's just how I am and they are cool with that. Also, because I'm not plotting that ulterior motive, my mind is a little more open and I'm able to spot when a bitch is being trifling and I know when to take a walk.

And the thing about the "badboy" types. A lot of those assholes are assholes because they just are. That's just being real. Women see that, they see a genuine guy even if he is a genuine asshole. That's my take on it anyways.

I've dated a lot of women over the years, and I've always been chivalrous without desparation and with no ulterior motive in mind, and I've gotten screwed over many times too, so I'd have to disagree with your disagreement of my position. :P But, maybe that desperation was what did Diekan in. I really, really hate to sound like Diekan (/gasp), but I really do know women very well. I know what they want, what they like, and what turns them off. Not every woman is the same, but there are vast generalizations most of them have in common.

[Tikker]

why do you think being courteous has really any influence on whether or not a woman will ultimately stay wtih you?

[Narrock]

why do you think being courteous has really any influence on whether or not a woman will ultimately stay wtih you?

It's not just about being courteous.

[Jay]

Yeah but that has nothing to do with chivalry at all. You can't factor in the act of chivalry as what makes or breaks a relationship or what makes the lady respond or not. Be, or don't be, that's your choice. It's completely isolated from the relationship. Whether you will get screwed over or not stems from something else entirely whether the lady went into it with that motive from the getgo or whether it was something else that made them think "Hmm...I'm gonna take this guy for everything he's worth". I can tell you that I am everything that is chivalrous and that no woman out there will think of me as a pushover based on that. The way I act towards women is how I am period. If women see that as an indicator to fuck me over then I will have to keep turning my back until I find a lady who appreciates it because I can't change who I am. I've been through relationships myself that have failed and in the end, even if it doesn't work out if my exes get asked about how I was as a bf the answer will always be "he treated me very well and he's a great guy".

[Darcler]

Yall date some shallow shallow women. How about stop goin for the OMGHAWT chicks and go for ones with some form of personality?

I can tell you, the first date is what will keep me with a guy or not. "Chivalry" I guess. If I dont get the door open for me, I'm probably not going to stay with you. If you do not treat me like I think I should be treated, I wont stay. But it goes the other way. I will treat you the very best I know how. If I get treated like ass, like some of you sound like you treat your girlfriends, you can bet I will be out of there very quickly.
To those of you who are thinking of going the "asshole" route, while you might get a girl to fall head over heels for you in the beginning, she will eventually grow up and realize that there are guys out there, more mature that will treat them like they should be treated.

You guys are funny.

[Menlaan]

Diekan, do you ever think that you're the kind of guy that gives men a bad name? How do you think some of the women that you've come across speak of you and perhaps men in general? Or do you think all women deserve to be treated like shit b/c of the few women you've known who treated you like shit?

As others have written, I think one should be balanced in relationships and neither give nor take too much. Keep it moderate, and I think you're more likely to find what you're looking for (i.e. don't be an asshole but don't pushover).