300... Our secret weapon against Iran.

[kaharthemad]

Zan I doubt you could give me an actual definition of racist without looking it up in a dictionary.

You seem to fit people into two categories. Those who are a minority, and those who are racist. Without, I assume knowing what the word actually means.

My point is that you have called me racist a couple times because I dont want gang bangers in my neighborhood. Black people fine...Hispanics...also fine. but I make one comment about the gangsta moving into my neighborhood and gang fighting 1 block away, or the spic's in their bling cars making noise till 4 am hell even the wiggers down the street trying to be 'up with the hommies' and you call me a racist for not believing in their ghetto trash culture.

Tell you what Zan. anytime you wanna get to know who you are actually caling a bigot and a racist by all means spend a week living in my house and workin in my work environment. I treat everyone the same till they give me a reason not to.

You wanna be black in america? That does not mean you have to play rap music so load the vibrations knock the paintngs off my wall. You want to be a hispanic in America? Fine just dont scal a fucking fence to work here illegally. Respect me and Ill respect you. You give no respect for me as a human and you are no more than trash from the streets.

[Jay]

I treat everyone the same till they give me a reason not to.

So if I were to run up and kick you in the nuts would you want to kick my ass or would you assume that by me kicking you in the nuts that I was representing all asians?

You say treat everyone the same? I say search white people at the airport just as much as you'd search a middle easterner, or, do the routine search on everyone like you normally would and skip this whole airport over the top security bullshit.

[Gaazy]

Kahar pretty much summed it up again I guess.

The black guy I lived with didnt act like a fucking baboon half the time and showed others respect. Even he sees the difference between a colored person and a nigger and hates that gangster horseshit.

[Spazz]

You ever hear that bill maher quote jay bout its good to be color blind and ethnic blind but at the end of the day blind means you cant see? Were not having a real terrorist problem right now with asains or white people so to search them the same might make you miss what your looking for. The reality of right now is that we have a slight problem with islamic terrorists at the moment so thats who we should be looking into. It sucks but its better than what we did to the japs in the 40s. Pc and reality do not allways go hand in hand and im very sad to say that.

[Martrae]

Honestly, Kahar is probably the least racist person you'd ever meet. It's probably due to being in the sub corp. On a submarine everyone is judged on how well you work and your personality. He carries that over into his personal life.

Most people who claim they aren't racist, really are closet ones. They claim to have X amounts of black friends as if that proves something. Kahar doesn't have 'black' friends...he just has friends and if some of them happen to be black, so be it. He really doesn't 'see' color when picking people he likes.

[Gaazy]

Neither do I, that was the point I was getting at, by using him as an example. He is a good guy, so I treat him like one.

[kaharthemad]

I treat everyone the same till they give me a reason not to.

So if I were to run up and kick you in the nuts would you want to kick my ass or would you assume that by me kicking you in the nuts that I was representing all asians?

You say treat everyone the same? I say search white people at the airport just as much as you'd search a middle easterner, or, do the routine search on everyone like you normally would and skip this whole airport over the top security bullshit.

Nope I would not. However, I would prolly turn you into a fucking pretzel.
you are trying to say being politically correct is more important than the lives of 6,000 people in a building, or atleast 100+ on that plane. Its not. If it means making sure my wife and children get home safe from a trip, by all means... use a rubber glove. My family is priority to me and if it means making some twitchy acting arab go thru a strip search then so be it. If you single out some old 80 year old granny because you need a 'whitey' your wasting time and money till 25 grandma's hijack 4 planes with darning needles and ben gay.


If you look like a arab, request belt extensions (reference flight that crashed into world trade 1) say 3 Allah Akbars before boarding the plane, start radical prayer chants in your seats during take off...then when the Air marshalls show up and drag your sorry asses off to prison you scream racial profile? thats not racial profiling. thats minimally observant.



I sum people up in different groups. There are black people white, hispanics, chinese japanese etc etc. I consider everyone a normal person hell you are a citizen of the US? Welcome aboard. Melt with the rest of our cultures. When you start misrepresenting you racial culture to stir up tensions with other races your a dick. Act like a human... your treated like one...act like a dick and your nothing more than the shit I scrap off my shoes.

[Martrae]

Neither do I, that was the point I was getting at, by using him as an example. He is a good guy, so I treat him like one.

I wasn't referring to you.

[Gaazy]

Ohhh

[Jay]

I see what you're saying spazz, but we had 1 incident and immediately we start searching every brown person we see and the fucked up part is the unskilled retard airport security worker really doesn't know what he/she's looking for. What happens when we get European terrorists flying planes into our buildings? Search all the white people? You and me both know it won't happen and we also know that there will be justification to it too.

[Zanchief]

She was referring to me, because I see colour everywhere.

When her husband said American "Towel Heads" shouldn't be aloud to have weapons, I saw colour.

When her husband wouldn't hire someone at his store because he "talked like nigger", I saw colour.

When her husband said Arabs are historically terrorists, I saw colour.

When her husband said black people ruined his neighborhood and brought down his property value, I saw colour.

She's right, Kahar just calls it like is. He's not racist at all. I am.

[Spazz]

It wasnt one incident homie. All my life other than one white guy incident when i was in 6th grade its been muslims. 9/11 was the straw that broke the camals back. When white guys start being terrorists again you can bet your ass the goverment will rejoice at the fact that they now can do whatever they want. Look up all the terrorist incidents since august 1982 and tell me who the guilty party is.

[Zanchief]

Do you realize how many Muslims there are in the world?

It doesn't excuse the behavior, but you're condemning hundreds of millions because of the actions of a few hundred.

[Spazz]

When her husband wouldn't hire someone at his store because he "talked like nigger", I saw colour.

Thats not racism dipshit, thats not wanting to hire someone to represent your company that sounds like a fucking idiot.

When her husband said Arabs are historically terrorists, I saw colour.

This one i think could go either way.

When her husband said black people ruined his neighborhood and brought down his property value, I saw colour.

I dont know how things are in wonderful canada but here in the states this is kind of true. I lived in westland and crime has gone way up since a shit load of blacks moved into my part of town. Here in the states a lot of blacks in one area does = higher crime .

[Martrae]

/takes Zan's u and runs away with it.

See...when he uses those phrases he's not talking race...he's talking culture. The guy that 'talked like a nigger' was white. It was the culture the guy embraced Kahar objected to. If a black guy had come in and talked like a 'normal' person, he would have been hired...because Kahar is not a racist.

[Spazz]

Im not condemning anyone im just calling a spade a spade. In my life america has been attacked by THEM. Not irishmen not asians not old white ladies. My country has been attacked by islamic males so i would think in fighting terror that would be the chosen group. Im sorry its not pc or fair but unlike most liberals I HAVE TO LIVE IN REALITY.

[kaharthemad]

Im still waiting...define racism zan? till you can accurately define the concept stop using it.

When her husband said American "Towel Heads" shouldn't be aloud to have weapons, I saw colour.

Show me the link.

When her husband wouldn't hire someone at his store because he "talked like nigger", I saw colour.

your right I wont. talk normally and not like a gangsta and Ill hire you regardless of color. Dress like black trash you wont get the job. much like any white guy dressing and talking like an idiot.

When her husband said Arabs are historically terrorists, I saw colour.

show me where a group of hispanics every hijacked a plane and ran it into a building. Show me a group os Irish that have sawed the head off of an american for being nothing more than white.

When her husband said black people ruined his neighborhood and brought down his property value, I saw colour.

I stated that the gangsta were bring down my property value. I had no problems with any race as long as they acted like humans and not like baboons.

As for your paraphrasing amzing zan. You seem to only read what you want to read with no care for the context of the information being produced.

Its quite simple...You wanna act like a human? Hey! you get a job over someone that has his pants hanging down to the crack of your ass talking like a moron.

You wanna wear a turban and wave a gun in your lap? In todays day and age dont be suprised if a bunch of people white black hispanic and oriental grab you out of you car and beat the ttotal shit out of you.


You wanna move to a nice neighborhood? Dont have people over till all hours of the night, start brawls and trash your yard. It tends to get people like me upset. The 'black people' you reference I already said were not black they were black trash. You were the one that volunteered to have them move in. but you never gave me an address where I can send them.

[Zanchief]

/takes Zan's u and runs away with it.

See...when he uses those phrases he's not talking race...he's talking culture. The guy that 'talked like a nigger' was white. It was the culture the guy embraced Kahar objected to. If a black guy had come in and talked like a 'normal' person, he would have been hired...because Kahar is not a racist.

I'm curious if you thought it was acceptable that he was offended that the American government permitted known Arab Amercians to have guns.

[kaharthemad]

link zan?

[kaharthemad]

btw still waiting on your definition

[Jay]

I treat everyone the same till they give me a reason not to.

So if I were to run up and kick you in the nuts would you want to kick my ass or would you assume that by me kicking you in the nuts that I was representing all asians?

You say treat everyone the same? I say search white people at the airport just as much as you'd search a middle easterner, or, do the routine search on everyone like you normally would and skip this whole airport over the top security bullshit.

Nope I would not. However, I would prolly turn you into a fucking pretzel.
you are trying to say being politically correct is more important than the lives of 6,000 people in a building, or atleast 100+ on that plane. Its not. If it means making sure my wife and children get home safe from a trip, by all means... use a rubber glove. My family is priority to me and if it means making some twitchy acting arab go thru a strip search then so be it. If you single out some old 80 year old granny because you need a 'whitey' your wasting time and money till 25 grandma's hijack 4 planes with darning needles and ben gay.


If you look like a arab, request belt extensions (reference flight that crashed into world trade 1) say 3 Allah Akbars before boarding the plane, start radical prayer chants in your seats during take off...then when the Air marshalls show up and drag your sorry asses off to prison you scream racial profile? thats not racial profiling. thats minimally observant.



I sum people up in different groups. There are black people white, hispanics, chinese japanese etc etc. I consider everyone a normal person hell you are a citizen of the US? Welcome aboard. Melt with the rest of our cultures. When you start misrepresenting you racial culture to stir up tensions with other races your a dick. Act like a human... your treated like one...act like a dick and your nothing more than the shit I scrap off my shoes.

No I'm saying that I won't let terrorists change the way I live and do things. I don't live in fear and I'm not going to be paranoid everytime I see someone with a turban on at an airport. I'm admitedly not much of a family person, but I know how to care about others too Kahar. It doesn't mean you have to be a douche to people who don't deserve it because you are scared of what might happen however ridiculously unlikely it is. Tim McVey bombed a federal building. Doesn't mean I'm scared to stand in one. Some arabs flew a plane into a building, I still fly places every couple of months. You say 9/11, I say Oklahoma City but the fact remains if you are so scared of terrorism and so paranoid of "towelheads" to the extent that you would allow the mistreatment of other American citizens, who happen to be brown, just so you can feel a little bit safer than the terrorists have already done what they intended to do to you. You've seen me post, I could give a fuck less about political correctness. Just rather than adopt the mindframe that would make me want to strip another person of their rights out of fear through prejudice I'd rather have the plane that I'm on be flown into a building.

[kaharthemad]

You missed the point Jay. I can give you 100 ways to slip a weapon onto a plane legally and without searching. if I know how to do it you can make damn sure others have that knowledge. but the fact that they search some little old lady from Pasadena just to be PC is bullshit and a waste of time. and resources. You wanna do away with racial fears on a plane? fine arm the pilots. Give them 10 rounds of shatterpoints in a nice glock. When whoever jumps up and screams they are taking over the plane capt jack can fire a round into his chest. Technically non lethal but I am pretty sure they will get the message of who the fuck is in charge of the plane.

[Arlos]

I'm sorry, you can claim he's not a racist all you want, but when he calls all arabs or muslims "Towelheads", that's fucking racist. Same thing as if he were calling Jews kikes, blacks niggers, etc. based ENTIRELY on their ethnic baxkround.

-Arlos

[Spazz]

Im for arming pilots. Im actually for arming every legal us citizen. If you cant see how searching an 80 year old lady is a waste of effort im sorry for you. Im not for taking the rights away from anyone either just asking a few questions here and there. Most of what this country has done since 9/11 is a total joke but at the airport extra searching for a young male muslim doesnt seem that outta line to me.

[Zanchief]

btw still waiting on your definition

You've pretty much ruined this thread and perverted it into a lame attempt to salvage your character.

Don't judge people on the color of their skin. This includes judging people you have never met on the actions of others, and making broad generalizations about entire groups of people on assumptions, bigotry, and hatred.

Sure, from time to time I get made at someone and think racist things. The other day I was in a theatre and a few Arab guys were behind me were talking during the movie and I won't deny a few racist thoughts popped into my head, but how is it fair to judge them on the basis of their race when they are just soulless bastards who are going to the special hell.

You make it about race by constantly throwing around epitaphs about people when the flaws are found in their character not in their race. Do you think you are immune from stereotypes? Is it fair when I call you a cokehead? I bet you the percentage of violent crimes committed by someone who's had a substance abuse problem is MUCH higher than any minority you can find. Would it be fair for a community to tell you to get the fuck out because they don't want to you rapping their kids and ruining their property?