300... Our secret weapon against Iran.

[Zanchief]

I'm going to have to agree with Lyion on this one. Even though I got a little bit of a shit storm today, I'm trying to step back from the flamefests more now.

[Ganzo]

If Iran can produce and put our TV Show about how Jews plot to take over the world and sacrifice Arab kids to drain blood for making passover matzot; why can't Hollywood Jews make movie about Iranians being warmongering savages?

[Spazz]

Because its racist and offensive and the only people allowed to be offensive anymore are the god damn arabs.

[Zanchief]

I think you missed my point entirely.

[Spazz]

I dont think you have one. I dont think iran does either.

[Markarado]

I dont think you have one. I dont think iran does either

Spazz I'd love to meet up and smoke a blunt with you sometime. I'm on track with most of your stances. Mabye we could work on your grammar and spelling ;p

Zanchief, you do realize that you ALWAYS take EVERY opportunity to oppose America and American's regardless of the issue?

You keep arguing that Kahar is attacking a person's color and not their character. Consistently Kahar has made clear that he is in fact attacking an individual's character. He doesn't call a black person a nigger. He calls a nigger a nigger. He doesn't call all white people wiggers. He calls a wigger a wigger. Why can't you comprehend the difference?

[Zanchief]

Zanchief, you do realize that you ALWAYS take EVERY opportunity to oppose America and American's regardless of the issue?

How is arguing against racism "opposing America"?

My point, Mark, was that Kahar uses race to attack their character. What does it matter if he's a nigger or not? Call him a twat then instead of bringing race into it.

[Markarado]

You're not arguing against racism. You're jumping at every opportunity to put America down. You're point is invalid as Kahar is not using race to attack a person's character. He's attacking an individual's character - not the character of the entire race.

How is using the word nigger bringing race into it? First of all, a black person is not a nigger. A nigger is a nigger. Secondly, he was using other minorities as an example of your ignorance; which he very well did.

[Zanchief]

So it's ok to demean someone based on race if you find them morally questionable?

[kaharthemad]

because and not to start another flame fest zan. I consider them two different things.

and using a word such as that is not something I do to them. however, when talking to people such as yourself that cannot discern between one class of human being and people that are far from it. it is 2 different things.

Quite a few of the problem people in my last neighborhood are not pigmentally challenged. they were white. however I did not see you take offense when I called then in bred rednecks. Reason why. You dont consider it a problem for minorities to point and make fun of white people.


Here is another form of racism but however alot of people are too stupid to understand it.

NAACP is for blacks.
Can you imagine the outcry if we had the same type for white people?
More and more we as a society are becoming the minority all under the banner of some false 'equal status'

You want equal rights fine. People like you need to take offense when some black guy calls another person cracker. or you need to take no offense at all to any of it which I do not.. cant have it both ways. If you take offense to one sort of discriminatory and not another then you are doing nothing for the cause you support. more like adding to the hypocrisy of the situation.

[Evermore]

How is using the word nigger bringing race into it? First of all, a black person is not a nigger. A nigger is a nigger. Secondly, he was using other minorities as an example of your ignorance; which he very well did.

Mark,

Most people are not ready to move on from this. I agree with you. the word Nigger's meaning has progressed away from being a reference to any black person. IMO the color of your skin does not make you a nigger, the way you live your life does. its unfortunate that most cannot or will not see this. that being said you have to realize whenever you use that word in whatever context you are bringing up race.


Zanchief brings up a very good point. it is not ok to demean anyone based on race.


that being said what do you call 4 niggers driving a cadillac in a white neighborhood?

j/k

[Zanchief]

You want equal rights fine. People like you need to take offense when some black guy calls another person cracker. or you need to take no offense at all to any of it which I do not.. cant have it both ways. If you take offense to one sort of discriminatory and not another then you are doing nothing for the cause you support. more like adding to the hypocrisy of the situation.

Who says I don't take offense when a minority is racist. You claim to be half native half Irish and I clearly think you’re a racist douche bag. See it works for everyone.

Can we get off this little race tirade though? For one, it makes you look foolish arguing that calling someone a towel head isn't about race at all, and two this thread is about the perceived racist content in 300.

[Haylo]

The problem is not thinking of some blacks as "niggers" or some behaviors as reflecting that word, even black people do. I don't use the word but I definitely don't deny thinking it when I see someone black doing something extremely freaking stupid. It becomes a problem when you don't differentiate between all black people and black people that are ghetto. But let me ask you this, when a black person does something or says something that you may not agree with, or even just cuts you off in traffic or something, Is your first thought "man f**k that piece of shite" or "screw that nigger".

If you automatically attack a person's race when they are around you, do, or say something you don't agree with, then you are racist. I don't care what dictionary definition you choose to use. If you wait to see a person's actions and then use racial slurs etc. you are prejudiced, and let's admit almost all of us are. That said, there are people in this thread saying they're not racists who automatically categorize black people as "niggers" regardless of their behavior or actions, deny it if you want, but your posting history confirms it (not directing this at you Kahar).

[kaharthemad]

your still a dumbass zan. You cannot define the actual term. you just pull a word that most people are too fucking stupid to understand the true meaning of a word.


When you can actually pick up a fucking dictionary and understand a word you have been misusing for 6 pages then come back and talk. till them shut up and try and get a decent education ok?


I defined racism twice for you but you are still too ignorant and too stupid to realize that you fit the profile according to the terms set forth by webster.

You seem to think that all races are worse off than you because you seem fit to have to defend them and that they are helpless and cant defend themselves.

You made race an issue. not I. You made everyone see how stupid you were by not being able to correctly use a word you seem fit to throw around every other post.

Your ignorance and people like you is why there will never be true equality.

[Zanchief]

3. hatred or intolerance of another race or other races.

Blamo, there it is, chief. Right there in the definition YOU provided, now stop dragging this silly dictionary argument, I'm embarrassed I even humoured you with a response to it but you really just can't seem to let it go.

You never answered my question before, do you believe in racism? Finawin seems to think racism is a myth. Do you have the same opinion? Do you think there is anyone in the world who fits your, or anyone elses, definition of racism?

[Jazendar]

That definition does not say the following

"Hatred or Intolerance of another race or other races based on the performed past actions of those in question."

So, Kahar does not fit the textbook description of a bigot or racist, to what degree would you consider him so?

[kaharthemad]

I dont have an intolerance for another race. just intolerance of certain people.

so part three does not fit...blamo your a dumbass still chief.


Do I hate all hispanics because abunch of them make a run for the border every day? nope that certain people in a race.


I believe there is certain people that i construde as racist. I think alot of Germans during the holocaust were racist.


You still dont get it. under the term you define it would mean I hate all people of one race. I dont.

perfect example. I hate stupid fucking Canadians that come on to forums and slam a country in which they have no hand in. I think people like that are assholes and useless to society. They are hypocrites and in alot of ways racist because under the defining rule they think that other races are lower than themselves and when society requests they push for higher standards they believe that the race as a whole does not nor cannot comply.


Does this statement make me a racist? How aout if I called them a canuk...or a wannabe ice humping frenchman? nope it makes me hate a certain breed of Canadians that are useless to me.

[Zanchief]

So stating Arabs should not be permitted to have guns because they're a security risk. That all Arabs should be discriminated for reasons of national security.

That fits the bill without a doubt. Furthermore, by your definition, the Nazi's weren't racist since they didn't hate Jews, they hated certain traits amongst the Jewish population. Making judgments on the whole because of a few isn't really racist is it Kahar?

One other thing. Do you think the Nazis, the KKK, your drunken bigoted uncle, really thought they were racist? You think they sat around saying to themselves, damn I'm racist, I fit the definition of being a racist! No. They did the same thing as you, twisting definition, and perverting the meaning to make themselves feel better. You're no different.

The standard way of dealing with people like you is to just shake my head and walk away, waiting for you to die and hope you don't pervert your children with too much of your hate and bigotry, but unfortunately for me I'm just too confrontational for that.

[Martrae]

Actually, Zan...the KKK and Nazi's were racist and proud of it.

Nazi's did hate the Jews...all Jews. And they wouldn't have cared if anyone called them racist...racist is a relatively new 'dirty' word.

Nice try at an extreme example, though.

[kaharthemad]

and again where did I say this?
link please since you are apparently too stupid to read and post it in context of everything....please since you love to take things out of context.

hatred or intolerance of another race or other races. I think exterminating 32 million of them would fit the bill.


and since you have the IQ of a clear blue soap dish and cant read more than one point at a time...definition one...

. a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others.



Im pretty sure they know and knew.

as for calling out my family, amazing how when some pussy ass bitch cant come up with valid arguments, they resort to family name calling. Next let me guess your gonna come forward and say something about Mar or my kids?

yeah amazing zan same thing I consider about you. your brand of hypocrisy is nothing more than a small cry for help. You have no girlfriend you have no life to speak of all you have is your little igloo in the middle of fucking nowhere.

I say I dont see race in the same terms as you. you call me a racist cause I use derogatory words to offend certain parts of a race.

You say because I use these words I automatically hate everyone in a specific race which I do not. You say that because I do not like when people act like ghetto slugs working for me I am a racist.

You say that because I prefer racial profiling to protect my family from some of the main terrorists im racist.

You call me a racist because you dont understand the concept of grey . you see things in black and white and the only one in this thread that thinks color matters is you.

Not me.

[kaharthemad]

come down to the south and tell a KKK memeber they aint racist. Duck I hear most of them have a swift temper.

[Evermore]

I never said everyone in America was racist.

Lyion posted this article, I assume to discuss it, and I stated my opinion on the subject.

Has anyone aside from Lyion even attempted to address how the article is wrong?

Who gives a flying rat's ass what Persians think of the movie, or its filmmaker?

[Arlos]

OK, since Kahar is still trying to use that asinine dictionary argument, and seems to have missed or is ignoring my post, here it is again:

American Heritage Dictionary - Cite This Source
rac·ism (rā'sĭz'əm) Pronunciation Key
n.

1. The belief that race accounts for differences in human character or ability and that a particular race is superior to others.
2. Discrimination or prejudice based on race.

Lets see, he calls all arabs "Towelheads" and advocates singling them out in airports over any other race. He even has, in the past, had extra outrage over someone getting pulled over with an assault rifle in their car because their name contained the word "Mohammed", as if that was worse than any other random idiot having one in his car. I don't think there's any question but that both actions/belief statements are highly discriminatory, and they sure as hell are based on race.

So, it's quite obvious Kahar fits into category 2 quite well, regardless of how he tries to spin it. Perhaps he doesn't fit for blacks or jews or other races, but he sure as fuck is racist as hell against arabs and muslims.

-Arlos

[Zanchief]

Is there any point to us arguing over this? We've spent the last two days and 100 or so posts going back and forth for nothing. I was trying to discuss the actual subject of the thread, still interested too, but you had to make this a personal thing between the two of us for gods know what reason.

I think you're racist, you think I'm naïve liberal whiner, we're all a big happy family. If you really were comfortable with your tolerance you could let go of this petty argument.

[kaharthemad]

as for your comments arlos I dont consider all of one race.

However when terrorists of a specific race (this time muslims) are threatening to kill as many people as possible I dont care about what they think if they look twitchy check them and screw PC. But those and I will reference the flying Imams in MN as a valid point. Do I think it is the right thing to do? yes. Do I consider it a violation of their rights? nope. just as I dont mind when I getting stripped searched going thru a airport terminal (which I do every time) because of all the metal in my right knee. I grin bear it and realize it is for the protection of others.

You would rather another Al Qeada attttack happen on national soil then agree that during certain times, we need to scrutinize a race more than others. When drunk irshmen take over a plane and run it into a building in manhatten then Ill start scrutinziing 6ft tall red heads



I dont think we are superior. nor do i discriminate a whole race.

I see all your welfare school time has not made you understand the difference between partial and whole maybe some remedial might be needed.