300... Our secret weapon against Iran.

[Evermore]

We should completely cut off welfare. Maybe that will get them off their asses.

How about turning it into a full time job meaning you have to do a full 8 hours work as if you had a real job? there is alot in this country that needs cleaning up and fixing..

I don't hate the idea, but there are problems with it. For one thing, you'd have to up the rate so you'd actually be spending more money.

i'd be for spending more money if and only if these people were working for it. there are roads that need to be cleaned and intercity neighborhoods that need houses boarded up and the trash picked up, graffitti ( sp ) needs to be cleaned etc...

[Ginzburgh]

i'd be for spending more money if and only if these people were working for it. there are roads that need to be cleaned and intercity neighborhoods that need houses boarded up and the trash picked up, graffitti ( sp ) needs to be cleaned etc...

Unless they have a good reason to not work, they shouldn't be getting welfare. And no, having 16 kids is not a good reason to collect.

I was in a local deli the other day and some worthless fucking degenerate was standing in front of me in line. He put his grinder down on the counter and went to pay for it with food stamps. The store owner said, "you can't buy hot food with food stamps" and the degenerate said, "since when?" to which the store owner replied, "since that sign went up three years ago" (pointing to a sign that said, 'we don’t except food stamps for hot food') and the degenerate stood back, started screaming about how much of a racist the guy was and after his tirade when he was walking out of the store, he tore down a rack of candy bars and kicked over a stack of 2 liter bottles of soda.

And I'm expected to pay for that guy's meals?

[Jay]

The store owner could have still cashed in on the food stamps. He should've taken them that 1 time.

[Spazz]

YEs.

[Harrison]

Hahah, you should see them try to buy alcohol with food stamps. Driving up in their Mercedes...

Times like those I wish I had a video camera at all times.

[Ginzburgh]

Maybe it's again'st the law for his kind of establishment. Connecticut has weird zoning laws. Or maybe it's not worth his time. For whatever reason, that is the rule, there was a fucking sign posted, the degenerate pulled the race card and then tore the place apart.

And I go to that store on a daily basis to get my coffee. These are nice people. They are hardworking indians (ok sterotype) who are super friendly and bust their asses (and make a hell of a good steak and cheese) only to be treated like that by some fucking douche bag? And as soon as the guy did what he did, without saying a word the two women behind the counter rushed over and started cleaning up the mess like dogs.

[Arlos]

Who ever said I was on welfare? Am not now, and never have been. Not once in my entire life. I do get pell grants, other grant/scholarship money and student loans, but that's hardly the same thing.

Oh, and as I mentioned before, I actually have a prescription for pot, thanks. Helps immensely for controlling pain in my bad knee, the one I destroyed playing soccer when I was younger. (and couldn't get surgery on at the time, because neither of my parents were in a job that gave insurance at that point). Some country with universal health care, it could've been fixed when it was injured and maybe been right again. Here, I've been in constant pain for over 20 years, which sometimes gets bad enough that I can't even walk. So, on those days when it's bad but not bad enough to keep me home, it's VERY nice to be able to sit down when I get home, smoke a little bit and have the pain be dropped several levels quickly. Yeah, I have real pain pills for the ultra-bad times, but they take a while to work and I prefer not to take them unless absolutely necessary, due to their long-term negative impact.

As for welfare, the question becomes complicated by what do you do about single parents with multiple kids, or for people who are at least partially disabled. A single mom has 3 kids, all under 5, what do you do with those kids while you are making her go clean grafitti? Day care is prohibitively expensive, and not everyone has family members that can look after them. Yeah, it would be better if they didn't have the kids at that point, but not all single mothers are sluts who forget birth control. Plenty are people who thought they were in good relationships, who had their husband just up and leave them, etc. You can't apply universalities to individuals, there's always exceptions.

-Arlos

[Jay]

I'm saying, take the food stamps, avoid that degenerate trashing the store and letting him know, I'm not taking your food stamps again but I'll do you a solid this time. It could've been a potentially more dangerous situation.

[Harrison]

I would have got his license plate for the store owner. If I frequent a place, I don't like retards fucking it up.

[Ginzburgh]

I'm saying, take the food stamps, avoid that degenerate trashing the store and letting him know, I'm not taking your food stamps again but I'll do you a solid this time. It could've been a potentially more dangerous situation.

I'm sure the store owner didn't anticipate that kind of reaction.

[Spazz]

Oh, and as I mentioned before, I actually have a prescription for pot, thanks. Helps immensely for controlling pain in my bad knee, the one I destroyed playing soccer when I was younger.

I cant beleive you can smoke pot legally ( sort of) becuase of that. I need to move to fuckin Khalifornistan.

[Harrison]

Probably has some hippie quack of a doctor...

[Phlegm]

Oh, and as I mentioned before, I actually have a prescription for pot, thanks. Helps immensely for controlling pain in my bad knee, the one I destroyed playing soccer when I was younger.

I cant beleive you can smoke pot legally ( sort of) becuase of that. I need to move to fuckin Khalifornistan.

SAN FRANCISCO, California (AP) -- A California woman whose doctor says marijuana is the only medicine keeping her alive is not immune from federal prosecution on drug charges, a federal appeals court ruled Wednesday.

The case was brought by Angel Raich, an Oakland mother of two who suffers from scoliosis, a brain tumor, chronic nausea and other ailments. On her doctor's advice, she eats or smokes marijuana every couple of hours to ease her pain and bolster a nonexistent appetite as conventional drugs did not work.

The Supreme Court ruled against Raich two years ago, saying that medical marijuana users and their suppliers could be prosecuted for breaching federal drug laws even if they lived in a state such as California where medical pot is legal.

Because of that ruling, the issue before the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals was narrowed to the so-called right to life theory: that marijuana should be allowed if it is the only viable option to keep a patient alive.

Raich, 41, began sobbing when she was told of the decision and said she would continue using the drug.

"I'm sure not going to let them kill me," she said. "Oh my God."

[Spazz]

I cant beleive you can smoke pot legally ( sort of)

yea thats why i said it like that.

[Arlos]

State considers it legal, so I won't get hassled by state cops, etc, and if I want to go work for anything other than a federal government agency, and they do a drug test, they can't turn me down for pot showing up. Anything else illegal showing up on the test they could, but since I'm not doing anything else, that's not a worry. I just have to show them the letter from the doctor, and that's the end of it.

You really have no idea how it is, either. A lot of times I'll come home from classes, and I'll be limping badly most of the way, and my knee will be just pounding with pain. To be able to get home and sit down and within 5 minutes have some level of reasonable relief is indescribably nice. Pain pills take 30-45 minutes to get any effect, and I would spend all of that time waiting without any relief.

-Arlos

[Tossica]

Huh, I smoke because I like to get high.

[Ginzburgh]

So does he.

[Harrison]

So does he.

[Lyion]

As an aside, have you ever had your knee checked out by a very good professional? I screwed up my shoulder when I dislocated it playing football and was in crazy pain, until I had it fixed by a better doctor. The original one did nothing for it, and even misdiagnosed it.

It may be something that is fixable. I hope so in your case.

[Ginzburgh]

Why would he have it fixed?

[Jay]

Apparently in the bay area if you know a nurse or a doctor you can get a cannibis card and smoke without getting wtfpwned by the cops.

[Arlos]

I've had surgery on it once before, about 10 years ago now, and it's better than it used to be. Back then, it would suddenly sieze up and stop working with no warning. This is a problem if you're walking along in a mall and suddenly between one step and the next your knee gives way, can't support any weight, and the only reason you don't fall flat on your face is because you grab a luckily handy bench... Then spend the next hour on that bench, not moving, massaging and resting your knee until you can make a pretense of walking again so you can hobble to your car and go home. (not that I describe there a specific incident or anything, oh no, not me.)

Basically, they went in and cleaned out a big mass of scar tissue, a bunch of damaged cartilage (I have effectively no cartilage in that knee now, it's almost constant bone-on-bone contact), and actually physically removed my kneecap so they could reshape it slightly and remove deposits, then put it back in and re-routed a muscle to hold it in place differently. I have a big scar across the o utside of the knee from the surgery. And as I said, it doesn't randomly stop working with no warning any more, and the constant pain is less than it used to be before the surgery. That doesn't mean it's healthy, though.

More recently, when I had insurance, I had it looked at and was told there wasn't a whole lot more that could be done. I've also had it looked at by the sports medicine doctor here on campus, and he basically said about the same thing, though he did recommend a diffferent brand of shoes to help control the walking motion better, which actually has helped some. (I used to wear Nikes, the shoe he recommended was the Beast from Brooks)

Believe me, Ginzburgh, I'd love to have it fixed. There's all sorts of stuff I used to like to do that I just realy can't any more. Hell, I've even had to stop going skiing, cause the last time I went, by the end of the day I couldn't put weight on it at all, and had to effectively ski down from the top of Heavenly Valley on 1 ski, stopping every couple hundred feet to let the pain ebb a bit. Even besides athletic stuff, I'd just like to not be in pain for a change. I mean, I'm used to it and all, but trust me, constant pain gets awful tiring. It may sound like whining, but there are times when I really abjectly wish for ONE pain-free day. Just one.

Oh, and no, I won't deny I like to get high, but that's not all, or even most of the times I smoke.

-Arlos

[Jay]

Become a cyborg np

[Zanchief]

I just read an article about scientists that were able to implant a chip in a monkey's brain that let him move a robotic arm.

[Spazz]

Did you cry for the poor oppressed monkey ?