22 Year old Carjacks and Beats 91 Year old Man

[Jazendar]

http://www.wxyz.com/news/story.aspx?con ... a4edc1f25d

Video on the right hand side.

To me, what's more horrific than the actual beating itself, is how the 6 or so bystanders stood there without any intention of helping the man. I am curious if the camera were to keep filming if they helped the man after the car drove off.

While he didn't actualy commit a capital crime such as murder, this mother fucker needs to be put on death row in my opinion. His intentions or opportunity to do so would have been the same as such.


Edit:

"He has been charged with Carjacking, which carries a penalty of up to life in prison; and, Assault With Intent to do Great Bodily Harm, which carries a maximum penalty of ten years in prison."


Life for a materialistic possession (car), and maximum of 10 years for brutally beating a man to near death who is completely and obviously helpless. Fucking love our legal system.

[Diekan]

Our legal system is a joke. Until we actually start PUNISHING people - nothing will change.

[Jazendar]

I've gone by a motto for a while in that Punishment does not deter violence, as in punishment is not prevention of that crime; That instead of punishment or coupled there-with, should be the education and understanding given to the perp to his or her actions. But in cases like this, it's hard to even think about living that statement. Products of their environment? It seems like these people (Yes, black people) have a natural born instinct to commit mass ammounts of crime, which shouldn't make it surprising that 1/3rd of all black males are in some form of correctional facility or program.

Put him on Texas' Death Row.

[Harrison]

Liberal pussyfooting around punishment and attempting rehabilitation instead. Much more effective...

P.S. Niggers

[KaiineTN]

I wouldn't say it's a natural born instinct, but it does seem that the vast majority African-American role models in the media and what not that represent "black culture" seem to not have much respect for authority of any kind. They think they can do what they want. They feel like they have to be the badass rather than a decent human being. If they don't, then they're not acting black! Ohnoez.

[Diekan]

Is that any different than a white redneck who wants to "kick everyone's ass?"

Trailer trash is just as bad as the ghetto crowd when it comes to violence.

[Kitao]

The trailer trash however give at least one day of the week to congregating in a place where violence from man to man is limited. Nascar.

[Jazendar]

A redneck isn't prone to kill someone for a necklace. Alas, perhaps it is the stress or importance the media puts on the black community to negatively connotate their culture, and the lack thereof for "rednecks." But I would argue that they're far less harmful than the materialistic striving blacks.

[Lyion]

Life in prison is too lenient?

[Gaazy]

Guaren-fucking-tee you I can take out into those little small redneck towns and youd be treated nicer and with more hospitality for the most part than their fucking ghettoes and hoods. And Id bet you would have someone to stop and help you change a flat on that shitty fucking BMW in those 'redneck' towns than you would in a hood either.

[Gypsiyee]

God this is disgusting.

Let me point out though to those who are saying oh it's because he's black that the little slut he was with wasn't black, nor were all the assholes who just sat there and watched. The old guy was black though and so was his wife, and I'm pretty sure neither of them would think it was because he was black, but because he's a flat out horrid excuse for a human. This is also in Detroit where there is no shortage of crime in general.

While the crime rate is higher in the black population, it'd be interesting to see an actual charted out comparison of the amount of people hurt per convict race rather than the amount of people per race committing the crimes, because I will say that while there seems to be a larger population of individuals committing the crime on one end, it seems that our side of crime hurts a lot more people at once. You don't find a whole lot of black pedophiles or serial killers or bombers, but when those crimes are committed you never hear that it's because they were white, you hear it's because they're fucked up people

At any rate, this makes me sick to my stomach.

[kaharthemad]

Life in prison is too lenient?

yeah I dont wanna pay for him.
bullet 25 cents.
we can 'reprocces him and solve world hunger as well.

Soilent Green ~FTW~

[numatu]

Stories like this are so tough to watch. All you want to do is destroy this 5 foot nothing, a hundred and nothing criminal.

[Zanchief]

Liberal pussyfooting around punishment and attempting rehabilitation instead. Much more effective...

P.S. Niggers

So what's your excuse for being a blight on society?

[Diekan]

Guaren-fucking-tee you I can take out into those little small redneck towns and youd be treated nicer and with more hospitality for the most part than their fucking ghettoes and hoods. And Id bet you would have someone to stop and help you change a flat on that shitty fucking BMW in those 'redneck' towns than you would in a hood either.

Hmmm.... then I guess the rednecks in your state are different than in my state. Because I guaren-fucking-tee you that the rednecks down here ARE violent and look for chances to get into a fight.

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/07122/782546-132.stm

Yeah, rednecks aren't violent, they're just misunderstood right?

[Jay]

Who's to say I wouldn't have gotten shot if I had helped him? Who's to say that old man would have gotten taken hostage or shot if I had stepped up. I'm not a hero and I'm not trained to help in those situations. I might have made it worse. Yeah it's unfortunate what happened and it's sickening but I wouldn't call the others assholes for not endangering themselves. I woulda called the cops, made sure to get a good description and be willing to testify if they catch him, but that's it.

[Gypsiyee]

well sure, but run and get help.. stand there and watch? that's sadistic and sick.

[Gaazy]

Thats not just rednecks dumbshit. Thats hours and hours of drinking. Theres going to be people doing stupid shit like that after any sport that has a lot of drunk fans. Ive seen some of the biggest fights in my life after football and basketball games. Its not just Nascar. You mean to tell me youve never seen football fans or drunk fucking yankee fans or whoever throwing shit and picking fights? Bullshit. Nascar stuff gets a lot of attention with stuff like that than any other sport because there are more rednecks, and god knows snobs like you and the author of that article, need someone to make fun of so you go home feeling good about yourself. Who better than the less fortunate rednecks?

You're going to have bad apples in every crowd of people for one thing. Yes I can take you to some rowdy places, thats why my original post says "for the most part" in there. As in, for the most part, those little towns have a LOT of good people.

[Jazendar]

1988 was a different time entirely, with a completely different generation, fashion, influence and relationship to power. Even then, though, Cher placed a quote paralleling the views I hold close to mine, encompassing our inability to think or consider others, due to what we’ve become accustomed to:


"We don’t read. We don’t care about who’s running our country, we don’t care about our neighbors. We don’t care about anything. We’re so interested in ourselves we don’t remember why this country started. What it means. Nobody can read, nobody can write. Everybody watches Wheel of Fortune. And I perpetuated that for a long time. I am a victim and a perpetrator of that.
I think if you look at Moonstruck, it’s a different set of values. And if everybody was like that, maybe we would still be able to unlock our doors and not have, you know, some asshole push a pregnant women under some subway. Or that people might care if they have to step over someone who’s frozen in a doorway.
I think that’s kind of a thread in my characters; they’re all very old-fashioned in their morals."

[Tacks]

Hmm first thing I thought before I clicked that link "betcha it's some stupid Nigger"

AMAZING TURN OF EVENTS IT TURNS OUT TO BE SOME STUPID NIGGER! WHOA

[Diekan]

You're going to have bad apples in every crowd of people for one thing. Yes I can take you to some rowdy places, thats why my original post says "for the most part" in there.

Therein lies my point. Some in this tread suggested that it was a "black thing" and I pointed out it's with ever race and nationality.

You said it yourself (look at the quote).

I am sure that you're also confusing rednecks and hillbillies. They ARE two different brands of people. If you're talking about hillbillies - then you're right - they are some very kind and friendly people - they are kind of people who'll stop and help you change your tire.

If you're talking about rednecks - then you're wrong - they ARE violent and DO look for fights.

I live in the DEEP south - far removed for you and the hillbillies of WV (which really shouldn't even be considered part of the "south" - and I don't think it is anyway). I will bet a years worth of pay that there are a HELL OF A LOT more rednecks down here than up there.

[Trielelvan]

Gotta agree with Diekan here. I grew up in Texas and have seen a shitton of little backwoods redneck towns, and you surely do NOT want to ever have to stop in one, especially if you aren't white.God help you if a cop pulls you over. They aren't all drunk. They're just mean and look for any reason at all to get into a fight.

[Drem]

i'm with gypsiee, diekan, and tri. i almost hate reading race threads on this board because there's so many stereotypical white racists. NT is like the trailer park of the internet now. but i guess that's a good thing, in their opinion. 'specially if'n you like huntin' and beer and horshoes and workin' on cars and stuff. yeeeehaw

i posted some teachings of some underground theology and yamori went "words " i mean how do you expect black people to fall into line with white people when you treat the culture like it's some make-believe shit because it's not ivy league college and a six-figure salary working as a cog in some faceless machine. and when i say the culture, i'm not talking about rap or money.

[Gaazy]

Where in the hell did I say we have more rednecks than you do, or anything about the South for that matter? Where the fuck did that come from? Ive been to the backwoods South, and I have family in the backwoods South, down towards Tuscaloosa. And I know what kind of people youre talkin about, I guess I should have made my post a little more exact. Jesus. And for the record, southern WV at least considers ourselves part of the South, just obviously not the Deep South

[Yamori]

i posted some fundamental teachings of some underground theology and yamori went "words " i mean how do you expect black people to fall into line with white people when you treat their culture like it's some make-believe shit because it's not ivy league college and a six-figure salary working as a cog in some faceless machine

Ok..

just remember that the circumference of your father's equality trancends any one man's universe. the gods and earths aka sons and daughters are walking and talking examples of that story

Make sense of this then. Because "WORDS " still very much applies.