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Postby Narrock » Wed Jul 25, 2007 11:07 pm

I just got an email from a friend in Reno. If this is really true then my regard for humankind just took a major nosedive.


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STRAY dogs are being skewered on hooks and dragged behind boats as live shark bait. The cruel practice takes place on French-controlled Reunion Island in the Indian Ocean. A six-month-old labrador pup was recently found ALIVE with a huge double hook through its snout, and another through a leg. The pup was found in a coastal creek and is thought to have somehow freed itself from a fishing line, but other dogs and kittens have been chomped up and swallowed by sharks.
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Postby Tikker » Wed Jul 25, 2007 11:31 pm

if it'd been a rat, or a skunk or something, no one would care

i hate the double standard for animals people consider pets
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Postby Harrison » Wed Jul 25, 2007 11:34 pm

Tikker wrote:if it'd been a rat, or a skunk or something, no one would care

i hate the double standard for animals people consider pets


I didn't scroll down yet, and I was going to type something along those lines.
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Postby Arlos » Wed Jul 25, 2007 11:44 pm

I'd absolutely want to see confirmation of this first, but yeah, if people are doing it, it's reprehensible.

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Postby Tikker » Wed Jul 25, 2007 11:51 pm

why is it reprehensble?

it's a stray dog

something no one wanted anyway

it's no different than using "normal" live bait
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Postby Gaazy » Wed Jul 25, 2007 11:51 pm

The closest I can bring myself to that is hooking a bluegill through the ass and using it as catfish bait~

Who in the fuck actually likes skunks and rats (other than Leah) :wink:
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Postby 10sun » Thu Jul 26, 2007 1:59 am

FUCK THE FRENCH!!!!1111one111

Honestly I doubt it.
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Postby Trielelvan » Thu Jul 26, 2007 2:50 am

The picture is photochopped, and the story, I'm sure, is bogus.

For one, the amount of drag created by towing a dog behind a moving boat through its upper lips like that would rip the hooks right through the skin. The leg, maybe...
To do it properly, you'd have to skewer the dog through its collar, ribcage, or hips. Plus... there is a distinct lack of blood and manglement. No way the holes in the snout would be that clean still.

Not that I doubt people would use dogs as bait, but this method is utter bullshit. I don't believe it.
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Postby Bigrozz » Thu Jul 26, 2007 7:19 am

Ack looks like there is some truth to it.
http://www.snopes.com/critters/crusader/sharkbait.asp
Of course it looks like the media blew it way out of proportion.
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Postby Tikker » Thu Jul 26, 2007 7:42 am

either way, who cares?
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Postby Zanchief » Thu Jul 26, 2007 7:52 am

Tikker wrote:either way, who cares?


People with compassion for animals, for one.

The difference between this and eating meat and swatting flies or what ever other ridiculous analogy you could come up with, is that this is the torture of these poor creatures.

If they were grafting skunks or rats or what ever other creature and stringing them across the ocean alive I would be just as mortified, but you can't blame people for caring for animals who show their emotions the way dogs do.

This story is appalling and if it doesn't make you cringe even a little bit you are a soulless robot.
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Postby Tikker » Thu Jul 26, 2007 8:04 am

no, you missed my first point

if it was something other than dogs, it wouldn't be newsworthy

I was replying to bigrozz's point about whether it was a fake, or a real story (ie, reaction to it as a fake or a real story is the same thing)

reading comprehension for the lose for you
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Postby Zanchief » Thu Jul 26, 2007 8:18 am

Maybe you should read my post again then chuckles because that's exactly what I'm talking about. It would be just as loathsome if it was any other animal.

Your ambivalence just either shows how cold hearted you are, or how you're just trying to look cool on internet.
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Postby ClakarEQ » Thu Jul 26, 2007 8:36 am

I don't look at myself as being cold hearted and I would have less problems if it were mice, rats, or any rodent in general.

I'm sure the distaste also comes from any persons perception of what is a pet and what is not.

In Asia folks eat dogs and that is an acceptable practice but here for example I think it is against the law and even if not, socially it would be unacceptable.
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Postby Tikker » Thu Jul 26, 2007 8:47 am

Zanchief wrote:Maybe you should read my post again then chuckles because that's exactly what I'm talking about. It would be just as loathsome if it was any other animal.

Your ambivalence just either shows how cold hearted you are, or how you're just trying to look cool on internet.


read it again you dumb fuck

All I'm pointing out is that people only care because it's dog, rather than say a skunk

I haven't said anything about good/bad/indifferent
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Postby Zanchief » Thu Jul 26, 2007 8:51 am

Tikker wrote:I haven't said anything about good/bad/indifferent


Tikker wrote:either way, who cares?


Please be more intelligent if you're going to chose to communicate with me.
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Postby Tikker » Thu Jul 26, 2007 8:54 am

Tikker wrote:
I was replying to bigrozz's point about whether it was a fake, or a real story (ie, reaction to it as a fake or a real story is the same thing)



you still lose you dumb shit

whether it's a real story, or a fake story, it doesn't change that people use live bait all the time(that's the who cares)

it also doesn't change that it's ONLY news because it's a dog, and not a skunk/rat/whatever

try again fagboat
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Postby Zanchief » Thu Jul 26, 2007 9:04 am

People don't use live bait like this all the time, but if they did I would be equally outraged. But the real question is, why aren't you?

Oh right, internet persona. You're the tough guy today.
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Postby Tacks » Thu Jul 26, 2007 9:20 am

uh oh, watch out, zanchief is outraged.
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Postby Lyion » Thu Jul 26, 2007 9:24 am

I first saw that picture about 5 years ago, I think.

I believe that's not a common occurence, and according to the snopes report that group does not use stray dogs anymore.
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Postby Narrock » Thu Jul 26, 2007 9:27 am

I think it's still wrong even if it was a rat or a skunk. That's just cruel, and torture to the animals.
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Postby Zanchief » Thu Jul 26, 2007 9:32 am

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Postby Bigrozz » Thu Jul 26, 2007 9:39 am

I was just pointing out that the media took a small occurrence of something and made it seem like the entire island was using scooby snacks for fishing. Media Profiling FTW?
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Postby runamonk » Thu Jul 26, 2007 9:45 am

Tikker wrote:no, you missed my first point

if it was something other than dogs, it wouldn't be newsworthy

I was replying to bigrozz's point about whether it was a fake, or a real story (ie, reaction to it as a fake or a real story is the same thing)

reading comprehension for the lose for you


It would still bother me, I don't think we are ethical in any way shape or form of our treatment of animals we consider to be lesser, ie: Skunks, Rats, etc.

I've always been of the belief that just because we have thumbs we don't have the right to torture and maim other animals for our gain.

So it would bother me.
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Postby Trielelvan » Thu Jul 26, 2007 9:48 am

Bigrozz wrote:Ack looks like there is some truth to it.
http://www.snopes.com/critters/crusader/sharkbait.asp
Of course it looks like the media blew it way out of proportion.

Ok, accidental entanglement, I can believe.
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