Why I use women for sex

[Eziekial]

[quote="leah"][quote="KaiineTN"]"Suck what?"

"Succinctly. It means perfectly."

"Oh, yeah. I knew that."

"Excuse me, Don Giovanni... your lizard seems limp."[/quote]

dead. D-E-D, dead. :P[/quote]

OMG I use that line and I have no idea where it's from! Please enlighten me woman

[Xaiveir]

"Suck what?"

"Succinctly. It means perfectly."

"Oh, yeah. I knew that."

"Excuse me, Don Giovanni... your lizard seems limp."

dead. D-E-D, dead. :P

OMG I use that line and I have no idea where it's from! Please enlighten me woman

Robin Hood, Men in tights yo~

[Eziekial]

Thanks Bee-otch!


By the way, I still can't believe I'm reading this post. Although I would like to say to Toss that having meaningless sex with random women CAN be fun.

[The Kizzy]

damn it I had this whole big reply and the direct tv guy disconnected our cable. /sigh. Ill do it again when there arent so many people around, lots of personal stuff

[araby]

me too kizzy I'm worn on out on this subject. god. love sucks. but we love the milk.

[Narrock]

me too kizzy I'm worn on out on this subject. god. love sucks. but we love the milk.

then gtfo.

[araby]

me too kizzy I'm worn on out on this subject. god. love sucks. but we love the milk.

then gtfo.

doesn't change anything, diekan is still hard headed like a mule. trying to discuss real life on message boards doesn't always work. real life isn't like this. I can't help it, I go back and forth between "he's joking right" and "wtf did he say?" and I'm worn out.

[Tossica]

Thanks Bee-otch!


By the way, I still can't believe I'm reading this post. Although I would like to say to Toss that having meaningless sex with random women CAN be fun.

You are preaching to the choir man. I love random sex with meaningless women... err... ugh... I mean... ugh, that didn't come out right.

[Darcler]

Wow yall. Wow

[The Kizzy]

ok let's see if I can get all my thoughts back. Its a long read, but I think its worth it to understand what I am going through.

I have a very self destuctive personality when it comes to the love makings and romance. I am still not over my ex husband. He is the first and only man I ever truly loved and was in love with. The problem was I didn't know it at the time. I thought the only reason we were together was because we got pregnant on our second date. June was 4 years we have been divorced. I still can not get over him. Just a few months ago, I called him in the middle of the night crying, begging for him to give us another chance. Promising him I could loose the weight I have gained, promising him I wouldn't bitch about everything, guaranteeing him that I would be a better house wife. He told me that the thought of being anything more than a friend to me made him physically ill. We have talked about me settling into my promotion and moving back up to Ohio to the same town, but only so we can both be close to both of our boys as he has one and I have one. Now my head tells me that this is just so I can be closer to my older son, but my heart yearns for it to be the first step for us to get back together. Nothing I will ever do will make his feelings change. He has moved on. He likes the "Fiona Apple kind of girl, and I am more like Jeanine Garafolo" He thinks I am a great person and good mother, but he is not physically attracted to me.

Now lets look into every relationship I have had after my divorce. Maybe that will help you understand. My first "serious" relationship was Tucker. I told myself he was perfect for me, and I could start a new life, but in all reality (and I am not trying to be mean here, just honest, Tucker) He was 6 years younger than me, he had one serious relationship before me, he lived at home with his dad, he delivered pizzas in his neon green and purple rice burner which he drove from Pennsylvania to Texas to meet me in. The first night he was there I fucked him on my mothers couch. His radiator blew and he borrowed money from my mother to fix it for the drive home. We decided to move me up to Pa instead of moving him to TX, and once I quit a good job to move up there, I paid a few hundred dollars to fix the clutch in the thing. THose all should have been signs....but I didn't listen. Im not saying he is not in a better place now, he has made major improvements in his life, he really has. But how many of you told me I was jumping in feet first? How many of you told me I was making a huge mistake>? I didnt listen, I refused to listen, and just went forward with a huge mistake. Once I realized that I didn't love him, I made stupid excuses to bitch at him about everything. I moved away and burned every bridge I had made with my baby-momma-drama-rama.

When I moved back to Ohio, I didn't have any serious relationships. I did meet a guy on the internet (myspace) and drove the 50 miles to have sex with him. Destructive maybe a little?) The second time, he slipped something in my beer. I remember fucking the shit out of him, and passing out, when I woke up I was sore in places I shouldn't have been and there was another guy passed out in bed with us. I don't remember what happened. I just consider myself lucky that I am alive.

I moved back to Texas and in with my brother. I burned my bridges I had made in Ohio as well. Not all of them, but most of them. My friends I went to school with set me up with this guy who was a mullett headed geek in high school. He had a huge problem with drugs and i think I made out with his sisters husband when they were dating. Anyway, he was so charming, and funny, and said all the good stuff, and he had been clean for 2 years, and everything sounded perfect, but he couldnt have any kids. But I ended up pregnant. Then the phone calls from the car company started coming in, and he swore he was making the payments and he would take care of it. Then he lost his wallet. THen I went to my parents house one weekend and proceeded to get phone calls that he was at bars with hookers. Snorting coke. Then more phone calls about car payments falling further behind. Then I lost the baby. It was shortly after that I kicked him out, after he "got screwed on his paycheck and couldnt pitch in for the rent again" but had the money to party with some of his friends from rehab. That was in July of 06.

I stayed single until November of that year, when I hooked up with , yep, you guessed it, another guy from online. We had met in WoW in April '06 or round about there, he was there for mt through everything with loosing the baby and the repo of my car and I was there for him when his girlfriend cheated on him. I convinced myself that we were best friends, and this relationship was real because I had based it on a friendship. and He was hot. He asked me to come visit that December, so I did. I flew from Dallas to St Louis, and we had alot of sex that weekend, and I decided to move to St Louis right after Christmas. I even completed the transfer at work. He stopped calling mid February. It was so embarassing. None of my RL friends know about my internet habits, and they all thought that he was an ex between David and Tucker. I kept telling myslef he was my one true love. Yeah, I loved him so much. I went to a Superbowl Party met a guy who looked like Billy Bob Thornton, or I thought he did after a few beers. I took him back to my place and fucked the shit out of him. I stopped long enough to answer Brians phone call.

My first date with the guy that I date now was the end of February, he didnt kiss me until Easter. THe first time we had sex was in May right after my birthday. He told me in June or so he loved me. I do love and care about him. I really do. He is 42 to my 32. He is 5'10", bald, hairy, and he thinks he knows everything. He tells me how to raise my son even though he didnt even know he had a daughter until she was 11, and he only raised his own son for 2 years before his ex moved away. He has been single for about 5 years, and lives in a one bedroom shanty as my brother calls it. The ceilings are 8 feet tall and the walls are made of cinder block. He is a pig. He doesnt clean up after anyhting, not even the rat terds. Its disgusting.

And that brings me to Tikker's question. Why don't I just dump him. Because he is a good, honest, and decent man, and I love him. I am not in love with him, but I really do care. I am happy with our relationship as it is. We work opposite shifts (me 6am-3pm, him 3pm to 12am) and SUnday nights are our sex nights. He is great with my son, 95% of the time. He has his quirks, but don't we all? As long as he doesnt want to move forward, we are fine. The only reason I dont want to move forward is because I am scared. I have made so many mistakes since my divorce, and my heart is still in love with David. Again, if Rikki and I are both happy where we are now, who is to say in another year or so when he is ready to make a further commitment that my heart wont have caught up woith my head and made me stop wanting something that I can not have.

Hope that makes sense.

[Markarado]

I'm not gay damnit!

[Tikker]

And that brings me to Tikker's question. Why don't I just dump him. Because he is a good, honest, and decent man, and I love him. I am not in love with him, but I really do care. I am happy with our relationship as it is. We work opposite shifts (me 6am-3pm, him 3pm to 12am) and SUnday nights are our sex nights. He is great with my son, 95% of the time. He has his quirks, but don't we all? As long as he doesnt want to move forward, we are fine. The only reason I dont want to move forward is because I am scared. I have made so many mistakes since my divorce, and my heart is still in love with David. Again, if Rikki and I are both happy where we are now, who is to say in another year or so when he is ready to make a further commitment that my heart wont have caught up woith my head and made me stop wanting something that I can not have.

Hope that makes sense.

wow to everything else!

but really

and I'm not trying to be a jerk about this at all, but this is exactly the kind of behaviour that creates diekans out of normal guys

women tend to stay with nice guys until they finally get bored, or decide something better has come along
everyone has seen it before, and it's frustrating when you realize that you're the dude that's about to get wtfpwn'd


ps, mark is totally gay

[araby]

all gay men are named mark, rick or steve.

[The Kizzy]

And that brings me to Tikker's question. Why don't I just dump him. Because he is a good, honest, and decent man, and I love him. I am not in love with him, but I really do care. I am happy with our relationship as it is. We work opposite shifts (me 6am-3pm, him 3pm to 12am) and SUnday nights are our sex nights. He is great with my son, 95% of the time. He has his quirks, but don't we all? As long as he doesnt want to move forward, we are fine. The only reason I dont want to move forward is because I am scared. I have made so many mistakes since my divorce, and my heart is still in love with David. Again, if Rikki and I are both happy where we are now, who is to say in another year or so when he is ready to make a further commitment that my heart wont have caught up woith my head and made me stop wanting something that I can not have.

Hope that makes sense.

wow to everything else!

but really

and I'm not trying to be a jerk about this at all, but this is exactly the kind of behaviour that creates diekans out of normal guys

women tend to stay with nice guys until they finally get bored, or decide something better has come along
everyone has seen it before, and it's frustrating when you realize that you're the dude that's about to get wtfpwn'd


ps, mark is totally gay

I think you are missing my point. I dont want anyone else but someone I cant have. Someone that will never have me. Its not that I am bored with him, we have a good time, my heart is just still in love with someone else.

God, Martrae is so gonna rip into me.

And Mark is so totally gay.

[Tikker]

all gay men are named mark, rick or steve.

nay

bruce, lance and mark

[Markarado]

I'm not really sure how to defend myself here. How about this - I like women not men thx~

[The Kizzy]

keep telling yourself and everybody else that.

[Trielelvan]

Why do you women do that?

First, I would wager 90% of the time, it's not deliberate. That would mean a conscious decision was made to do a) b) and c) and that's simply not the case.
Women are emotional creatures - period. It's how we are built. When a woman is telling you how much she loves you, cares for you, etc - she means it right then. Most women state what they feel, rather than thinking twice about it before they speak,especially when they are happy, and if you've just made love, are cuddling, or just in a good atmosphere where you're happy, she is going to feel exactly what she's telling you.
The problem is later, when she's gone home and is alone with time to think to herself, she will start to question *everything*. This, in turn, leads to doubts, more questions, and, in the end, she might decide that maybe you weren't such a good match afterall.
Why not say that right away? Because the next time she sees you, holds you, kisses you, etc, she will suddenly feel all lovey dovey again, will emotionally forget why she questioned in the first place, and be happy again... until she goes home and the process starts all over again. Eventually, she feels guilty for wanting to call it quits, ESPECIALLY if you have done a lot for her - she will feel she owes it to you to try, even if she is not happy. Eventually, it breaks down and blows up, and then it's over quickly and badly.
If I had a penny for everytime a female friend called me late at night to talk about all the above, I'd be rich 3x over now.

Keep this in mind, k?
1) If you have had a relationship before, you have baggage. Everyone has baggage. It's how it's DEALT with that matters.

2) The vast majority of women in this world, when they are unhappy in a relationship, feel overwhelmingly guilty about it. Fucked up, and sounds really stupid, but most of the time the reason a woman will continue trudging on is because they don't want to hurt you, not the opposite. Don't take it so personally.

3) Yes, LOTS of women are extremely insecure. You have to keep in mind that if you are being an incredible boyfriend and are Mr.Wonderful in every way, she is probably going to start questioning her own worth, which will lead to her worrying about whether or not you think she is worthy. This will then turn into jealousy, which leads to mind games, which leads to the demise of the relationship... which she knew was going to happen all along blah blah blah.. (see where I'm going with this?).

There's a lot more to this subject for both genders. Really, in the end, it's all about maturity level and common sense. People don't use it. Bitches is crazy, for true. So are men. We're just fucked up in different ways that neither side can understand about the other.

[araby]

I never said I wasn't crazy. bat shit everywhere.

[Markarado]

I am damnit!

[Jay]

I've been seriously way too busy to post on NT but I simply couldn't resist posting on this gem of a thread.


Now, after reading this entire thread I have a few things to say. Diekan and Mindia, yeah you're not getting any younger, but stop looking for relationships. Look for the right people and that will result in a good relationship. Relationships are great but you are selling yourself short if you ignore the tell tale signs and red flags to try to make a relationship.

Diekan, you know we've been friends a long time bro, so I'll be honest with you. You are earning yourself a one way ticket to dying alone. You use people on a regular and boast about it. You fell in love with a girl and got burned. I don't feel sorry for you one bit. Karma has its way of working things out.

For every girl that burns you, I'm sure there are 5 more you have burned or strung along or played mind games with. You say you don't lie to women. I believe you. You say you don't manipulate women? Bullshit. The game you play when you court a lady in it itself is a manipulation. You may not know it, but you are manipulating these women. You are manipulating them to get your rocks off for the night and masking it with mutual benefit. You prey on female ignorance.

Bottom line is that you are weak. You're too much of a pussy to get hurt, pick yourself up and try again. Man up. Nice guys finish last? Bullshit. Nice guys with agendas finish last. Its too easy for women to sniff out a guy who is nice because he wants the girl. Its hard for a lady to resist a guy who is decent just because he wants to be for his own sake.

[Martrae]

God, Martrae is so gonna rip into me.

WTF? Seriously...

[araby]

jay, how did you get so smart?

[Tacks]

I had a big nasty response thought up but I don't care enough to type it. Just remember that you get about 1/10th of the story from Janet, and it's always from her perspective. One example, yes she (and her mom) did loan me money maybe $300 total because my car wouldn't be able to drive back home, but then totally forgets to mention the $750 rent deposit I paid that I never got back because her kids destroyed the house.

[Trielelvan]

all gay men are named mark, rick or steve.

Steel Magnolias, the ultimate chick flick, ftw~ <3