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Postby Harrison » Tue Nov 06, 2007 7:34 pm

http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/11/06/ice.costume/index.html

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The employee who wore what some said was a racially insensitive Halloween costume to a party hosted by a top immigration official is being directed by the Homeland Security Department Secretary to take administrative leave.

Julie Myers, head of Immigration and Customs Enforcement, called the man's costume "offensive."

The employee's leave will continue while a Department inquiry is conducted, according to Secretary Michael Chertoff.

The employee wore a striped prison outfit, dreadlocks and darkened skin make-up to the party hosted by Julie Myers, head of Immigration and Customs Enforcement.

Myers was on a three-judge panel that originally praised the prisoner costume for "originality."

After some employees complained, Myers apologized for "a few of the costumes," calling them "inappropriate and offensive." She said she and other senior managers "deeply regret that this happened."

A department photographer took a picture of Myers with the man, but the photograph or photographs, originally posted online, were deleted after it was determined the costume was offensive, ICE spokeswoman Kelly Nantel said.

Asked about the controversy at a press conference Tuesday, Chertoff said Myers was "right to apologize for having this proceeding take place" and said she is reaching out to members of Congress and others to make sure "they understood her unwavering commitment to equality and fairness."

"Here is the bottom line: People do dumb things," Chertoff said. "I get very perturbed when there is anything that is done that suggests that with respect to the enforcement of the law, we are anything other than even-handed. I have zero tolerance for racism or discrimination in the area of law enforcement. We have to be tough but we have to be fair. ... The idea that you are going to come and impersonate someone of another ethnic group, I think, is completely unacceptable."

Between 50 and 75 people attended the party, which was a fund-raiser for the Combined Federal Campaign, a federal government collection of charities.

Nantel said one employee, whom she declined to identify, was wearing a black-and-white striped prison outfit, dreadlocks and a skin "bronzer" intended "to make him look African-American." But, she said, it was not immediately apparent that he was wearing the make-up.

"Most people in the room didn't realize he was wearing make-up at all," she said.

"It was unintentioned. The employee did not mean to offend although there were some employees that were rightfully offended by it," Nantel said.

"There were a couple of people who were offended," Nantel said. "When it was confirmed through a conversation with the employee that he was wearing make-up" the employee was counseled and Myers sent out a note to employees apologizing.

"The photo was deleted because there was a determination that the costume was inappropriate," Nantel said.

In a November 2 email to ICE employees, Myers said, "It is now clear that, however unintended, a few of the costumes were inappropriate and offensive. While we were all thrilled to be a part of the CFC fund-raising effort, I and the senior management at ICE deeply regret that this happened."

She reminded all employees to be compliant with the department's diversity training requirement.

Myers has served as head of ICE since January of 2006 but is still awaiting Senate confirmation.

An ICE congressional liaison said ICE officials briefed congressional staffers about the costume party this week as a courtesy. But at least one congressional staffer said they approached ICE after receiving an anonymous fax about the incident.

Myers called House Homeland Security Committee Chairman Bennie Thompson, a Democrat from Mississippi, about the incident and is expected to meet with him before the end of the week, a Thompson spokeswoman told CNN.

Myers also contacted the National Association of African-Americans in the Department of Homeland Security. In a letter to NAADHS members, the group's vice president, Sjon Shavers, said the group "appreciates (Myers) reaching out to us so quickly in order to keep us apprised of the matter and we commend her on moving so swiftly toward appropriate corrective action."

As head of ICE, Myers heads the law enforcement agency charged with enforcing immigration law in the nation's interior. It is the second largest investigative agency in the federal government, with more than 15,000 employees, including 6,000 investigators.

Chertoff "supports the actions that Assistant Secretary Myers has taken," DHS spokeswoman Laura Keehner said. "We do not tolerate inappropriate behavior at DHS.

"The secretary has asked for an inquiry into the facts surrounding the incident. Once the facts have been determined, we will take all necessary and appropriate actions."


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This shit is ridiculous. Suspended for wearing a fucking costume to a fund-raiser?
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Re: Wow.

Postby Tikker » Tue Nov 06, 2007 8:56 pm

i'm trying to figure out how some people were "rightly offended" by someone in a costume
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Re: Wow.

Postby Zanchief » Tue Nov 06, 2007 9:04 pm

Are you guys serious?

He painted his face and went as a prisoner? How is any of that not racist?

You are truly both clueless.
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Re: Wow.

Postby Tikker » Tue Nov 06, 2007 9:47 pm

my son went as a pirate

what's your point?
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Re: Wow.

Postby Darcler » Tue Nov 06, 2007 10:37 pm

My daughter was Dora. Had to wear a wig because her hair wasnt Mexican enough.


I'm sorry to anyone on our block who was offended :(
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Re: Wow.

Postby Jennay » Tue Nov 06, 2007 11:52 pm

Don't these people have better things to do? That guy should just have to apologize and that's it.
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Re: Wow.

Postby Tikker » Wed Nov 07, 2007 12:18 am

err, what'd he do wrong?

he had on a fucking costume
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Re: Wow.

Postby Harrison » Wed Nov 07, 2007 1:36 am

Tikker wrote:err, what'd he do wrong?

he had on a fucking costume
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Re: Wow.

Postby Arlos » Wed Nov 07, 2007 2:03 am

If he'd worn a prisoner costume solely, that would have been just fine. But prisoner costume plus blackface, that clearly pushes it over into racial commentary about just who is and isn't imprisoned more often. Indirectly, he was implying blacks = criminals.

The excuse of "oh, it's just a costume" is not a universal cleaner. Someone, say, dressing up in a KKK outfit holding a sign saying "niggers must die" is offensive, regardless of if it's a costume.


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Re: Wow.

Postby Gypsiyee » Wed Nov 07, 2007 4:58 am

Not to mention *where* he wore it - it's to a party hosted by someone who works for the department of immigration who deals with tens of thousands of of multicultural people all the time. The guy knew it was over the top. Do I think he needs to be punished for it? Not necessarily, aside from punishment for sheer stupidity. The costume is obviously going to tell some people that he thinks the only way he can look like an authentic prisoner is to be black. The prisoner outfit would've done just fine, he chose to go the extra mile to a place that was going to be a whole mess of cultural diversity - whether he's racist or not, he's still pretty dumb.

There's a time and a place, man.

Also.. Harrison, why are almost all of your posts in CA about something to do with race other than you stirring the dramapot and asking for an excuse to use the n word? I'm just curious~
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Re: Wow.

Postby KaiineTN » Wed Nov 07, 2007 5:00 am

Arlos wrote:Someone, say, dressing up in a KKK outfit holding a sign saying "niggers must die" is offensive, regardless of if it's a costume.


Unless it's a blind black white supremecist!
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Re: Wow.

Postby Gypsiyee » Wed Nov 07, 2007 5:03 am

ah, dave chappelle. <3
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Re: Wow.

Postby Rahiem » Wed Nov 07, 2007 7:06 am

If the guy was black, and painted his face to go as a white criminal, no one would care. What's the difference?
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Re: Wow.

Postby Ouchyfish » Wed Nov 07, 2007 7:33 am

hahaha gyps said that harrison wants to say nigger

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Re: Wow.

Postby Tikker » Wed Nov 07, 2007 7:45 am

Rahiem wrote:If the guy was black, and painted his face to go as a white criminal, no one would care. What's the difference?


it's only racism if black folks are the target for some reason

But, she said, it was not immediately apparent that he was wearing the make-up.

"Most people in the room didn't realize he was wearing make-up at all," she said.


in other words, someone later saw the pic posted and decided it was racist
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Re: Wow.

Postby Zanchief » Wed Nov 07, 2007 8:03 am

Rahiem wrote:If the guy was black, and painted his face to go as a white criminal, no one would care. What's the difference?


Well there's a world of fucking difference.

Let's say a black dude went to party with a painted white face and a tiny prostetic penis, guess what, people would care.

The fact that Tikker and Harrison don't understand how this is bad is just further proof that they are either completely blinded by their racism or they are just putting us on to stir the pot a bit.
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Re: Wow.

Postby Martrae » Wed Nov 07, 2007 8:14 am

Let's say a black dude went to party with a painted white face and a tiny prostetic penis, guess what, people would care.


I'd laugh.

Really, though, if people couldn't tell he was wearing makeup then it either it wasn't intended to look more than weathered (outside chain gang) or he was dark complected to begin with.

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Now THAT costume is racist. Note the obvious blackface.
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Re: Wow.

Postby Gypsiyee » Wed Nov 07, 2007 8:17 am

Rahiem wrote:If the guy was black, and painted his face to go as a white criminal, no one would care. What's the difference?


That's not comparable, really, because it doesn't address stereotypes about a race.

If a black man had posed as a white man who eats people, or a black man went in the priest with a boy attached to his diddle costume but painted his skin white, that'd be comparable because it'd be under the 'man when white people commit crime they do some fucked up shit!!' stereotype and I, at least, would regard it the same.
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Re: Wow.

Postby Tikker » Wed Nov 07, 2007 8:23 am

Martrae wrote:
Let's say a black dude went to party with a painted white face and a tiny prostetic penis, guess what, people would care.


I'd laugh.

Really, though, if people couldn't tell he was wearing makeup then it either it wasn't intended to look more than weathered (outside chain gang) or he was dark complected to begin with.

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Now THAT costume is racist. Note the obvious blackface.


in this one particular case, I kinda disagree

he's dressed up as one specific dude, not as a blanket statement
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Re: Wow.

Postby Martrae » Wed Nov 07, 2007 8:43 am

Didn't you get the memo? Anyone in blackface is racist.
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Re: Wow.

Postby Gaazy » Wed Nov 07, 2007 8:45 am

holy shit Mar, that is the best fucking costume Ive seen in years :rofl:
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Re: Wow.

Postby Harrison » Wed Nov 07, 2007 5:27 pm

I see a bunch of racists in this thread, and Zanchief is leading the pack.
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Re: Wow.

Postby Zanchief » Wed Nov 07, 2007 8:04 pm

Harrison wrote:I see a bunch of racists in this thread, and Zanchief is leading the pack.


We can only hope that you'll wisen up as you get older.
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Re: Wow.

Postby araby » Wed Nov 07, 2007 9:01 pm

it's obviously inappropriate even if it's funny. I mean what sucks is honestly that grown ups are getting called out on their behavior on halloween...it's pathetic.
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Re: Wow.

Postby Darcler » Wed Nov 07, 2007 9:15 pm

Martrae wrote:
Let's say a black dude went to party with a painted white face and a tiny prostetic penis, guess what, people would care.


I'd laugh.

Really, though, if people couldn't tell he was wearing makeup then it either it wasn't intended to look more than weathered (outside chain gang) or he was dark complected to begin with.

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Now THAT costume is racist. Note the obvious blackface.

Forget noting the obvious blackface. Note the funny! :rofl:
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