Hostages held at Clinton '08 office in New Hampshire

[Evermore]

http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/11/30/clinton.office/index.html

people are so fucked up

[Zanchief]

It's about as level headed as some of the Republicans on this board.

[Martrae]

It's a plot to catapult her up in the polls!!!!


Seriously, though, I can guarantee she's already got staff writers working out the best way to spin this to her advantage.

[Lyion]

It's about as level headed as some of the Republicans on this board.

Someone is itching for a fight, I see, and has loaded up their fishing wire. Good luck with that.

I wonder if this person is yet another Hillary plant.

[Tossica]

Any word on whether it's another wacko christian pro-lifer?

[Zanchief]

I wonder if this person is yet another Hillary plant.

Bush hasn't answered a question from someone who isn't a plant in the last 8 years, and you voted for him twice. It hardly seems like a fair criticism...unless you're a hypocrite.

[Lyion]

I'm sure Helen Thomas is a Bush operative in the secret Cheney deathsquad of doom!

On the flip side, most politicians don't answer questions. It's, ya know, why they are politicians. Anyways, this was a joke about recent American events. It's stuff that foreigners like you wouldn't probably know anything about, Chief.

[Zanchief]

I got the reference, just not sure why you'd continue to bring it up when man-crush made a living off of staging fake town halls and having plants asking him softball questions because he's too stupid debate his own opinion.

Like minds I guess. Must be why you're so enamored with him.

[Martrae]

I got the reference, just not sure why you'd continue to bring it up when man-crush made a living off of staging fake town halls and having plants asking him softball questions because he's too stupid debate his own opinion.

OMG you just described the Clinton presidency as well.

[Zanchief]

I got the reference, just not sure why you'd continue to bring it up when man-crush made a living off of staging fake town halls and having plants asking him softball questions because he's too stupid debate his own opinion.

OMG you just described the Clinton presidency as well.

Um really no. Clinton could handle questions. I supposed he staged people in Q&As like everyone else, but Bush creates Q&As and won't let anyone near him that isn't prescreened.

Clinton is actually able to debate his opinion. Bush cannot.

[Lyion]

Clinton could handle any question. Just roll out a public opinion poll!

I keep forgetting you have such man love for Clinton, although he's not quite up to snuff with your other US hero, Kucinich.

[numatu]

Clinton certainly didn't have to debate these positions much. There was almost complete agreement in the media, government, and populace back then.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2iOVqYBqME

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENAV_UoIfgc

[Zanchief]

Clinton could handle any question. Just roll out a public opinion poll!

I keep forgetting you have such man love for Clinton, although he's not quite up to snuff with your other US hero, Kucinich.

You've really become unpleasant lately.

Is all this frothing hatred because I called you out about saying Bush will be remembered as one of the greatest Presidents?

If you have such an aversion to the quote, why did you say it?

[Narrock]

I got the reference, just not sure why you'd continue to bring it up when man-crush made a living off of staging fake town halls and having plants asking him softball questions because he's too stupid debate his own opinion.

OMG you just described the Clinton presidency as well.

Um really no. Clinton could handle questions. I supposed he staged people in Q&As like everyone else, but Bush creates Q&As and won't let anyone near him that isn't prescreened.

Clinton is actually able to debate his opinion. Bush cannot.

Clinton could handle questions alright... with lies and deceit.

[Lyion]

I'm not Canadian enough to have frothing hatred, although I have absorbed enough to misquote people out of context for fun, since it seems to be in such style.

Perhaps I'm not the only one who has been nasty, unpleasant and trolling of late. Nice of you to ignore Numatu's fine video fine and other relevant points to snipe, and then be kind enough to call others out. Good job!

As my pal the Merovingian said, Cause and Effect.

[Zanchief]

Well one misquote is completely made up, where the other one you only wish you made up.

If you want to continue to be shitface, go ahead. I don't have much respect for you anyways.

[Tossica]

Lyion, are you denying that you ever said Bush would go down in history as one of the greatest US presidents?

[Lyion]

Toss, what I communicated was if he won the Iraq and Afghanistan wars and destroyed Al Qaeda history would look favorably on him. I also repeatedly said it'd be long after his term before an accurate historical account of how things from his presidency turn out and the results could be determined. I have been bickering with Zan for years with silly stuff like this. I try to ignore most political current affairs discussions here since it's tough to discuss politics or religion on message boards since things always end up the same way.

[Lyion]

Back on tangent. He was a conspiracy theory anti government nutter.

http://www.wmur.com/news/14737868/detail.html

Hostage Situation In Rochester Appears To Be Over
Witnesses Say Man Has Bomb-Like Device Strapped To Chest

POSTED: 1:14 pm EST November 30, 2007
UPDATED: 6:43 pm EST November 30, 2007
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ROCHESTER, N.H. -- A hostage situation at the Rochester headquarters of the Hillary Clinton campaign appears to be over.

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A man was taken into custody after he kneeled on the ground outside the office and police placed handcuffs on him. Moments earlier, a young man believed to be the third and final hostage was released.

The armed man took hostages at the office on 28 North Main St. Friday afternoon. Foster's Daily Democrat identified the suspect as Leeland Eisenberg, of Somersworth, N.H., someone who is well known to police in Rochester.

Eisnerberg was scheduled to appear in Strafford County Superior Court at 1:30 p.m. Friday with his wife for a domestic violence hearing.

A volunteer who only gave his first name, Daniel, said that he called one of the campaign workers on her cell phone after hearing about the hostage taking. Daniel said that there were two women and one man in the office.

"She was very hysterical," he said. "The man said he wasn't going to hurt them, but he wanted to talk to Hillary Clinton."

Two women were released during the afternoon. Daniel said that other worker man, described as in his 20s, was still in the office. At about 6:13 p.m., police could be seen taking a young man out of the office, minutes before the hostage-taker was taking into custody.

At a news conference earlier in the day, Rochester Police Capt. Paul Callaghan refused to release any details on the number of hostages, whether any hostages remained, the identity of the hostages or the identity of the hostage-taker. Police said there have been no injuries but described it as a "fluid situation."

"This is a hostage situation," Callaghan said. "We're confident we have the resources available to end this safely."

ABC News reported that the hostage-taker was an older male who was well known locally and has a history of mental illness who told his son today to "watch the news."

The hostage-taker's name was not officially released released, but a witness who spoke with the man's stepson said that he asked family members where he could purchase road flares. Some officials speculated that the man may have the flares strapped to his body.

The witness said the man told her that his stepfather's marriage was falling apart and that he had been drinking for the past 72 hours.

A friend of the family said that the man thought that there was a government conspiracy and that government officials were "coming after him."

Clinton, who is not in New Hampshire, canceled a National Democratic Committee meeting in Virginia.

A woman and her baby told workers at a neighboring business that she was released by the hostage-taker.

"A young woman with a 6-month or 8-month-old infant came rushing into the store just in tears, and she said, 'You need to call 911. A man has just walked into the Clinton office, opened his coat and showed us a bomb strapped to his chest with duct tape,'" witness Lettie Tzizik said.

Witnesses described the man as in his 40s with salt-and-pepper hair. There are several police officers in the area with guns drawn.

"I walked out and I immediately started running, and I saw that the road was blocked off. They told me run and keep going," said Cassandra Hamilton, who works in an office adjacent to the building.

Nearby businesses were evacuated, and students at the St. Elizabeth Seton School were moved to the Maple Street School, where they were released to their parents.

Several elementary and middle schools in the areas locked their doors in what officials called a "soft lockdown." Children at the McLelland School, Maple Street School and William Allen School were only being released directly to their parents.

"There is an ongoing situation in our Rochester, N.H., office. We are in close contact with state and local authorities and are acting at their direction," an official from Clinton's campaign said in statement.

"Police are negotiating with someone in the building," said another witness, who did not want to be identified. "The police are notifying all the business owners on the street to evacuate. There are fire trucks behind the Hillary Clinton office."

Presidential candidate Barack Obama also has an office in Rochester, and it has been evacuated. Staff members in John Edwards' office, which is a few buildings away, were also evacuated.

[Tossica]

Toss, what I communicated was if he won the Iraq and Afghanistan wars and destroyed Al Qaeda history would look favorably on him. I also repeatedly said it'd be long after his term before an accurate historical account of how things from his presidency turn out and the results could be determined.

Ugh... no.

That's how you'd like to remember it. What you REALLY communicated was that the war in Iraq was the right thing to do, Al Qaeda would be eliminated, the Iraqi's would be liberated and George Bush be remembered as the greatest president in history. There was no IF. We all said you were full of shit and you defended your position repeatedly. You were wrong. The entire situation in Iraq is a clusterfuck, George Bush is a fucking retard and the republicans raped the country for 8 years just like we all predicted and now you aren't man enough to eat crow and admit you were wrong.

[Lyion]

Be honest. Given your drug and party lifestyle you have no clue what anyone said last year, let alone in 2003.

Likewise, you have no clue what I posted before, as everyone knows you don't read current affairs any further than to say tits and 'Fuck Bush', with your partners in the BDS clan.

What I posted is what I've said since day 1. I thought the Iraq invasion was the correct thing to do. I figured we'd attack Al Qaeda. Both things we've done. I've also repeated since day 1 Rumsfeld was incompetent and I was on Powell and State's side in how to conduct things. I've also repeated that how things turn out after his Presidency is what will determine W's legacy.

[Evermore]

Clinton could handle questions alright... with lies and deceit.

this is true of all elected thieves. whats really the difference? Cliton lying on his answers or furher bush just outright lying?

[Zanchief]

What I posted is what I've said since day 1. I thought the Iraq invasion was the correct thing to do. I figured we'd attack Al Qaeda. Both things we've done. I've also repeated since day 1 Rumsfeld was incompetent and I was on Powell and State's side in how to conduct things. I've also repeated that how things turn out after his Presidency is what will determine W's legacy.

If you say so~

[Narrock]

Clinton could handle questions alright... with lies and deceit.

this is true of all elected thieves. whats really the difference? Cliton lying on his answers or furher bush just outright lying?

They both suck. I was pro-Bush up until about 2 years ago, give or take a few months. And what I detested about slick willie wasn't just about his compulsive lying and detestable lifestyle... it was about how corrupt and dangerous of a man he is.

[Narrock]

Be honest. Given your drug and party lifestyle you have no clue what anyone said last year, let alone in 2003.

Likewise, you have no clue what I posted before, as everyone knows you don't read current affairs any further than to say tits and 'Fuck Bush', with your partners in the BDS clan.

What I posted is what I've said since day 1. I thought the Iraq invasion was the correct thing to do. I figured we'd attack Al Qaeda. Both things we've done. I've also repeated since day 1 Rumsfeld was incompetent and I was on Powell and State's side in how to conduct things. I've also repeated that how things turn out after his Presidency is what will determine W's legacy.

Lyion, I have to agree with Tossica on this one. I remember you stating a couple times how Bush will go down as one of the greatest presidents in history. Just cop to it and move on. No biggie. Bush let me down too.