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[Haylo]

You identified him as a "nigger" before he demonstrated any of the stereotypical "nigger" behavior. Based completely on the color of his skin you put him in a little box of expected behavior. But you're not racist. Right.


P.S. Running up to someone with a play knife on Halloween is not "nigger" behavior either. I don't know what sort of warped community you're from, but kids of all colors do stuff like that on Halloween. The entire point of the night is to do stupid, crazy things that you normally would probably be hurt for doing. I seriously can't think of one other normal poster here who would have reacted in such a violent manner. Maybe instinct would have had someone hitting at the kid or dropping back, but pulling a weapon? Stop trying to justify dumbshit behavior. Also is this the first time you've mentioned the fact that the kid was black, or 6'5? Hmm...

[Gaazy]

Were you high when you wrote that post about making ammunition Clakar? Holy shit. I really hope you wake up tomorrow and reread that and say wtf was I saying? At least then you have an excuse. I will now refer you to Leuyen's post~

[Jay]

Harrison totally suffers from Munchausen's and paranoid delusions.

[Harrison]

I repeat, not that you ignorant morons are capable of understanding this, no one goes trick or treating here, end of story. So someone walking around with a mask in this part of the city IS abnormal. The fact that it so happened to be Halloween is irrelevant.

I'll even bold this for the EXTRA moronic this time. Try reading more next time Haylo.

[Harrison]

Harrison totally suffers from Munchausen's and paranoid delusions.

Stick to your dayjob. Psychology is clearly not your forte.

[Gypsiyee]

I repeat, not that you ignorant morons are capable of understanding this, no one goes trick or treating here, end of story. So someone walking around with a mask in this part of the city IS abnormal. The fact that it so happened to be Halloween is irrelevant.

I'll even bold this for the EXTRA moronic this time. Try reading more next time Haylo.

Er.. I'd be interested to see any community that a teenager goes trick or treating in, period. That doesn't mean they don't dress up and do nutty things.

You need to just own up to the fact that you were wrong instead of making excuses based on race, where you live, etc. If you actually were in danger it was your fault for being in that area at night alone. If you weren't you were wrong for pulling a knife on a kid in a costume on halloween. Either way you slice the cake, it boils down to paranoia and preconceived notions of people that are completely unjustified in this scenario.

I'm still curious why you were out in an area that's so horrible. I've been in bad areas, I've *lived* in bad areas. I certainly didn't go out at night in those bad areas outside of my car. It just seems to me a lot of the times that you have this happy little rain cloud following you all the time.. rather, you follow it.

[Narrock]

There's nothing tying you down there, Harrison. Why don't you move out? I know you have family and friends there, but if you move say, 20-30 minutes away, you might find yourself in a much better environment... and you'd be close enough to still visit your family and old friends. Go for it, man. Rent a room in a house in a nice neighborhood if you can't afford your own apartment.

[Evermore]

Word Lueyen

[Tikker]

Were you high when you wrote that post about making ammunition Clakar? Holy shit. I really hope you wake up tomorrow and reread that and say wtf was I saying? At least then you have an excuse. I will now refer you to Leuyen's post~

I pretty much agree with that



I'm still waiting to hear why Evermore thinks everyone should be able to get any gun/as many guns as they want, even tho he admits that most people will probably not be responsible with them

[Evermore]

i'm still waiting to hear why you think its ok to punish people for what they might do. I am also still waiting to hear who you think should be making this decision, and I ask you again, who are you to tell me or anyone what guns they can and cannot own?

I also would like to know why it is that you ignore the difference between legal and illegal weapons and try to lump them together? Legal gun owners are not the issue at all its the illegal ones. you stupidly think that some sort of ban on assault weapons is going to make a damn bit of difference.

I can tell you from my years in Washington that some politicians just can't get it through their heads that you can't create a safe society by disarming the good guys.

[Harrison]

There's nothing tying you down there, Harrison. Why don't you move out? I know you have family and friends there, but if you move say, 20-30 minutes away, you might find yourself in a much better environment... and you'd be close enough to still visit your family and old friends. Go for it, man. Rent a room in a house in a nice neighborhood if you can't afford your own apartment.

I got another year in my agreement. I'm not a dick like my younger brother and won't back out on it.

I'll probably get a place with my girlfriend if that comes to pass by that time.

[Zanchief]

I got another year in my agreement. I'm not a dick like my younger brother and won't back out on it.

I'll probably get a place with my girlfriend if that comes to pass by that time.

You're pretty optimistic she won't cheat on you in an entire year.

[Tikker]

i'm still waiting to hear why you think its ok to punish people for what they might do. I am also still waiting to hear who you think should be making this decision, and I ask you again, who are you to tell me or anyone what guns they can and cannot own?

I also would like to know why it is that you ignore the difference between legal and illegal weapons and try to lump them together? Legal gun owners are not the issue at all its the illegal ones. you stupidly think that some sort of ban on assault weapons is going to make a damn bit of difference.

how is it punishing people to have them certify/licence weapons?
it's the same thing as getting a license to drive a car

i know this is hard for you, so I'll use small words

I don't have a problem with responsible people owning guns

the idea is to take guns out of the hands of people that aren't responsible

and yes right now, lots of your legal gun owners ARE a problem since you don't have any kind of certification for who gets to own them

[Evermore]

So apparently now you dont know what you are talking about,now you just proved it. I know its hard for you to understand because you have never really experienced any of this.

Yes Tikk, there are things in place to certify and license weapons. You want to find this out for yourself? Come and try and buy a gun here. legally. Do they need to be revised? sure i believe so and even agree that if you are a legal owner you would have no issues registering. But once again you are wrong about legal owners being the issue. there are MUCH more crimes and killings being commited with unregistered and illegal weapons here then legal ones.

Do me a favor please and actually go look this up before you answer so at least you have some idea of what you are talking about. Or do you want me to get the info for you? I write it in crayon so you can understand.

EDIT: this problem for you is a story in the paper or on the TV. it ends for you when you turn the channel or finish reading your paper. think about that

[Tikker]

sure, it'd be neat to see you actually back up any of your statements

[Harrison]

I got another year in my agreement. I'm not a dick like my younger brother and won't back out on it.

I'll probably get a place with my girlfriend if that comes to pass by that time.

You're pretty optimistic she won't cheat on you in an entire year.

I'm prepared for that.

Hence why I said, "if that comes to pass."

[Evermore]

sure, it'd be neat to see you actually back up any of your statements

it isnt my job to school you. look them up yourself. Hell some of these stats have been posted in this thread. if you learn to read and use a search engine, maybe your opinion might be worth listening to. Better yet come down and experince this shit for yourself. then come and talk about it.

[Tikker]

if you're asserting that legal gun owners aren't the problem, it's your job to provide the evidence (burden of proof and whatnot)

and like has been said a bunch of times, YOU agreed that you are the vast minority as a responsible gun owner
and like has been said a bunch of times, I've said that I have no issue with responsible gun owners owning guns

What you keep dodging, is the question about why shouldn't guns be restricted to just responsible gun owners



we all get that criminals won't care, yada yada yada. that's not the point

[Jay]

Harrison totally suffers from Munchausen's and paranoid delusions.

Stick to your dayjob. Psychology is clearly not your forte.

Tell that to UIC in Chicago. They gave me a paper that says I'm good at Psychology Mr. I have this rare life threatening disease that no ones knows about but I'm ok now. It's called a degree. I can send you a picture of that, my advertising degree and my high school diploma so that you know what those look like.

BTW need I remind you that you almost stabbed someone just because they had a mask on in the designated part of town where no one wears masks and you thought that was weird. BTW, I grew up in West Oakland and SW Side Chicago so don't even try to tell me I don't know what a tough neighborhood is like. I just don't flinch like a pussy everytime someone decides to jump up and say boo.

Grow some balls, leave the knife at home and go about your business as if you weren't the blow job that your mom should have spit into the sink (ie pretend) and maybe "niggers" won't try to beat your ass. Or, here's a thought, stay the fuck out of places that are crime ridden and hang out where its safe.

[Evermore]

if you're asserting that legal gun owners aren't the problem, it's your job to provide the evidence (burden of proof and whatnot)

and like has been said a bunch of times, YOU agreed that you are the vast minority as a responsible gun owner
and like has been said a bunch of times, I've said that I have no issue with responsible gun owners owning guns

What you keep dodging, is the question about why shouldn't guns be restricted to just responsible gun owners




we all get that criminals won't care, yada yada yada. that's not the point

here are some stats since you are incapable or too stupid or lazy to actually learn what you are talking about.

Department of Justice

According to the 1997 Survey of State Prison Inmates, among those possessing a gun, the source of the gun was from -

a flea market or gun show for fewer than 2%
a retail store or pawnshop for about 12%
family, friends, a street buy, or an illegal source for 80%

During the offense that brought them to prison, 15% of State inmates and 13% of Federal inmates carried a handgun, and about 2%, a military-style semiautomatic gun.
On average, State inmates possessing a firearm received sentences of 18 years, while those without a weapon had an average sentence of 12 years.
Among prisoners carrying a firearm during their crime, 40% of State inmates and 56% of Federal inmates received a sentence enhancement because of the firearm.



I agreed that i was in the vast majority because when you look at the stats, ILLEGAL GUNS are the biggest problem. IF THE PEOPLE WHO ARE BUYING AND USING ILLEGAL GUNS WERE RESPONSIBLE, THIS WOULDNT BE THE CASE. how the fuck is it that you can't understand this? I think it’s because you have no fucking clue and are talking to hear your own voice.


Now answer my questions. I will restate them for you since you are too lazy to read

I am also still waiting to hear who you think should be making this decision, and I ask you again, who are you to tell me or anyone what guns they can and cannot own?

And while you are at it; please tell me, what is your great plan to ensure "responsible" gun owners can only buy weapons?

[Zanchief]

family, friends, a street buy, or an illegal source for 80%

Which is the problem. Family and friends of legal registered gun owners could lend the guns, or have them borrowed without their permission. If they don't have them, there's no chance of a crime happening with their legally registered guns.

Why are you so afraid of the government, Evermore? Did it touch you in a naughty place when you were younger?

BTW, the government doesn't let you own nuclear weapons. Do you feel that is an infringement of you rights?

[Tikker]

I am also still waiting to hear who you think should be making this decision, and I ask you again, who are you to tell me or anyone what guns they can and cannot own?

And while you are at it; please tell me, what is your great plan to ensure "responsible" gun owners can only buy weapons?

how about your law makers, since like, it'd be a law and all

and who am I to tell you what guns that can/can't own? I'm just a citizen in a country that doesn't have fucked up gun problems like you(despite the high rate of gun ownership), so I'm offering you my experience

easiest plan try allow responsible gun owners to own guns would obviously have to involve some sort of background check, gun training, licencing, etc etc etc

wipe the froth from your chin

[Evermore]

family, friends, a street buy, or an illegal source for 80%

Which is the problem. Family and friends of legal registered gun owners could lend the guns, or have them borrowed without their permission. If they don't have them, there's no chance of a crime happening with their legally registered guns.

Why are you so afraid of the government, Evermore? Did it touch you in a naughty place when you were younger?

BTW, the government doesn't let you own nuclear weapons. Do you feel that is an infringement of you rights?

I am not even going to hold that conversation with you. and once again you have gone and used a ludacris example.

here, try and educate yourself.


According to the 1991 Survey of State Prison Inmates, among those
inmates who possessed a handgun, 9% had acquired it through theft, and
28% had acquired it through an illegal market such as a drug dealer or fence.
Of all inmates, 10% had stolen at least one gun, and 11% had sold or traded
stolen guns. Studies of adult and juvenile offenders that the Virginia department of Criminal Justice Services conducted in 1992 and 1993 found that 15% of the adult offenders and 19% of the juvenile offenders had stolen guns; 16% of the adults and 24% of the juveniles had kept a stolen gun; and 20% of the adults and 30% of the juveniles had sold or traded a stolen gun. From a sample of juvenile inmates in four States, Sheley and Wright found that more than 50% had stolen a gun at least once in their lives and 24% had stolen their most recently obtained handgun. They concluded that theft and burglary were the original, not always the proximate, source of many guns acquired by the juveniles.

http://www.ojp.gov/bjs/pub/pdf/guic.pdf

Please note that if you try and read this artical it isnt in crayon. it stats taht juveniles are more likely to commit gun crimes

[Zanchief]

You want the evil government to regulate certain weapons though, right Evermore?

You don't want private citizen to have Tanks, right?

Seems like a simple question.

[Harrison]

Why do you use such ridiculous extremes as points in your pathetic excuse for an argument?

"You wouldn't want everyone with a BFG 9000 would you?!!?!?!?"