The Palin Choice

[Martrae]

And for the record.....even if he did call her a pig I don't think it'd be sexist. I'd call it rude but not sexist.

[leah]

obama's comments re: lipstickgate

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/the-tr ... mccai.html

[leah]

watching the clip, it doesn't seem like he was even referring to palin! he was talking about mccain claiming that he's for change. mccain is meant to be said pig, imo.

[leah]

and sorry for spamming hehe but honestly, this is so frustrating, and so true:

"What their campaign has done this morning," Obama said, "is the same game that has made people sick and tired of politics in this country. They seize on an innocent remark, try to take it out of context, throw up an outrageous ad, because they know that it's catnip for the media."

this is especially aggravating:

In the past 24 hours, Obama has held substantive events in the battleground states of Ohio and Virginia to discuss education policy and a press conference to set out his thoughts about Iraq and Afghanistan. Neither got the nearly attention the McCain camp received when it made an issue of the lipstick and the pig.

[Martrae]

Gee....now you know how the Ron Paul fans felt.

[Eziekial]

Exactly. Who cares about substance when you have sex and drama! I've got more e-mails with photo-shopped pictures of hot nekkid girls bodies with Palin's head then articles discussing platforms and proposals of EITHER candidate. I'm convinced the WHOLE FUCKING THING is a sham. There really is no difference between the candidates, they just sit back and watch the hamsters run and run in their wheels, squealing about abortion and lipstick. Unbelievable.

[brinstar]

No...McCain was specifically talking about Clinton's idea. Not her.

"I think they put some lipstick on a pig, but it's still a pig," he said of her proposal.

She also hadn't just made some off the cuff joke about her wearing lipstick. If she had, then the calls of hypocrisy would be justified.

Well then, Obama was calling 'the change' a pig... "That's not change. That's just calling the same thing something different. But you can put lipstick on a pig, it's still a pig. "

The 'timing' is what makes this a horrible, omg how dare he, sexist comment? Awesome. Freak the fuck out. I SAID LIPSTICK - YOU BETTER NOT MAKE ANY REMARKS ABOUT MAKEUP OR YOU ARE BASHING MY VAGINA!!!!!

jesus dude maybe your vagina DOES need a good bashing

[Diekan]

I am NOT here to defend McCain, but come on guys let's be honest... I know many of you are staunch Obama supporters... If McCain had made that very same comment you'd be running him in the mud, calling him all sorts of names - calling him classless, etc. Tell me you wouldn't?

Personally? I don't think Obama was trying to launch a personal attack toward anyone - maybe he was - maybe he wasn't - it was just a poor choice of words on his part. BUT, only HE knows what he really meant. However, knowing that the media HAS been more slanted to favor Obama over the past few months I can't believe for a second they would have sat idly by and not roasted McCain if he had said the same thing.

Let's be fair here.

[brinstar]

However, knowing that the media HAS been more slanted to favor Obama over the past few months

Obama has held substantive events in the battleground states of Ohio and Virginia to discuss education policy and a press conference to set out his thoughts about Iraq and Afghanistan. Neither got the nearly attention the McCain camp received when it made an issue of the lipstick and the pig.

[Gypsiyee]

I am NOT here to defend McCain, but come on guys let's be honest... I know many of you are staunch Obama supporters... If McCain had made that very same comment you'd be running him in the mud, calling him all sorts of names - calling him classless, etc. Tell me you wouldn't

that's what I'm saying, Diek. He DID make the same comment about HILLARY's policies last year. In context, it wasn't even talking about Palin - it was talking about *policies.* The exact same context that it was okay for McCain to use it last year.

What, because Palin compares herself to a dog in lipstick all the sudden she has the monopoly on lipstick comments? Give me a break.

I agree that the timing was poor, but the comment is something my gramma used to use, and McCain has used on a woman as well. They're using her for exactly what they wanted to use her for, and it's gross.

I saw a pic of Palin and McCain on the wall street journal yesterday, with a caption about them both - the photo? Palin smiling and waving, and McCain's back. No one even cares about the friggin candidate, they care about his drama whore of a VP. It's a damn joke.

[leah]

i saw this in an article the other day:

They held home-made signs with slogans like "God, guns, lipstick" and "Read my lipstick - Palin."

One beaming woman wearing a "USA" baseball cap had scrawled a on a piece of cardboard: "A Real Woman = Governor, mom, CEO, pro-Life, God fearing, happy. GO SARAH!"

A vendor had run out of badges with Mrs Palin's picture and the legend: "Coldest State, Hottest Governor."

and it made me feel like the mccain/palin campaign is practicing reverse sexism. on the one hand, they don't want ANYONE ELSE treating her any differently because she's a woman, but then in all these campaigns and whatnot, the party is playing up OOOOH I WEAR LIPSTICK WOOOO I AM A WOMAN CHECK ME OUT I HAVE A VAG AND A UTERUS WOOOOOOO!!! like how is no one else supposed to mention her sex but it's totally ok for her to play it up? i think "read my lipstick" is particularly grating.

idk why this bugs me so much, but it really, really does. her inclusion in the race has turned the whole thing into a damn circus where we get hung up on comments about pigs in lipstick for days at a time. ughghhhh fucking lipstick.

[Martrae]

Republican women can wear lipstick and BE women but Democratic ones have to have hairy pits and look like bull dykes. And never EVER wear makeup.

It's just the way things are.

[Martrae]

registered and voting green, muthafuckaz

government in this country is and will continue to be completely fucking broken until there are more than two parties to choose from

my green vote may be worthless-- and i'm prepared for the consequence that it might actually help the reds win (although this is NE, so fat chance anyway)-- but i VOTE FOR WHOM I WANT TO WIN instead of voting AGAINST WHOM I WANT TO LOSE

Oh no...PLEASE tell me you aren't voting for Cynthia McKinney.

[Arlos]

Now here's a Palin I could vote for!



-Arlos

[Drem]

lololol

[Trielelvan]

LOL!

[Hatak]

Michael Palin, the better Palin... He's got my vote!

[Gypsiyee]

<derail>

Obama rally this weekend - so excited!

</derail>

[Gypsiyee]

sneaky, petty, and pretty brilliant:

"I love the thought of the McCain for President headquarters receiving
thousands of postcards acknowledging thousands of donations in Sarah's honor.
Plus, a Planned Parenthood donation is tax deductible, where a political
donation isn't. A great way to tweak the McCain/Palin ticket at the same time we speak
up for what we care about."

Dear Friends:
We may have thought we wanted a woman on a national political ticket, but the joke has really been on us, hasn't it? Are you as sick in your stomach as I am at the thought of Sarah Palin as Vice President of the
United States?

Since Palin gave her speech accepting the Republican
nomination for the Vice Presidency, Barack Obama's campaign has raised over $10 million dollars. Some of you may already be supporting the Obama campaign financially; others of you may still be recovering from the primaries. None of you, however, can be happy with Palin's selection, especially on her positions on women's issues. So, if you
feel you can't support the Obama campaign financially, may I suggest the following fiendishly brilliant alternative? And best of all, do both - Donate to Planned Parenthood AND to the Obama campaign.

Make a donation to Planned Parenthood. In SARAH PALIN's
name. A Planned Parenthood donation is tax deductible, while a political
donation isn't. And here's the good part: when you make a donation to PP
in her name, they'll SEND HER A CARD telling her that the donation has been
made in her honor.

Here's the link to the Planned Parenthood website: http://www.plannedparenthood.org/
Go to donate, then honorary gifts. You'll need to fill in the address to let PP know
where to send the "in Sarah Palin's honor" card. I suggest you use the address for the
McCain campaign headquarters:
McCain for President
1235 S. Clark St, 1st Floor
Arlington , VA 22202


Forward this to everyone you know who opposes Sarah Palin and her attempts to deny women contraceptive education and control of their own bodies!

[vonkaar]

Thought you'd like this Gyps:

http://dariosalvelli.tumblr.com/post/49971278

[Gypsiyee]

Thought you'd like this Gyps:

http://dariosalvelli.tumblr.com/post/49971278

hah, thanks Vonk - I do!

check out t-shirt hell - they've got some golden ones over there right now~

[Arlos]

Continuing her epic stand for women's rights, her comes this gem: The town Palin was mayor of charged raped women for the investigation kits used to examine them...

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/09/21/ ... index.html

-Arlos

[Harrison]

How is that any different than charging me for being brutally beaten? The drugs, scans, blood tests, etc.

[ClakarEQ]

How is that any different than charging me for being brutally beaten? The drugs, scans, blood tests, etc.

I didn't read the link but the difference is the rape kits are used to find the crook, this isn't about getting meds and blood tests, this is about catching the folks and the vicitim being charged for the kit to make that apprehension possible.

Now did they charge you for your description of your beaters? How about any DNA they tried to get from you, did they charge you for that?

[leah]

agh, this is painful to watch:
http://www.dooce.com/2008/09/25/oh-noes ... oes-again/

kind of in the same vein as the "like such as" chick from the miss america pageant or whatever that was.