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Postby brinstar » Sat Oct 18, 2008 11:19 pm

Arlos wrote:Let me just say this, though, directly to Minrott: I am normally an easygoing sort, and am quite reasonable about being insulted. Nevertheless, I DO have limits, and you, you miserable puddle of rancid rat semen that dripped down your mother's inner thigh after she got done fucking your father, just pole-vaulted over them. If you do this again, you're going to be introduced to the same banhammer that got Taxx. I realize that understanding anything more difficult than Patty-Cake is difficult for your microscopic intellect, so I made that very plain for you. You got me?


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Re: a new thread whose purpose is to discuss the "tragedy" threa

Postby Martrae » Sun Oct 19, 2008 12:30 am

For the record...Taxx isn't banned. He got suspended and never came back.
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Re: a new thread whose purpose is to discuss the "tragedy" threa

Postby Tuggan » Sun Oct 19, 2008 1:53 am

eh, is that like an SA reference and Arlos shit a brick? or am i missin something?
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Re: a new thread whose purpose is to discuss the "tragedy" threa

Postby Eziekial » Sun Oct 19, 2008 6:26 am

All that for a brown shirt? Seriously, most people don't know what a brown shirt signifies anyway.
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Re: a new thread whose purpose is to discuss the "tragedy" threa

Postby Ginzburgh » Sun Oct 19, 2008 10:43 am

Yeah, what does it mean? Racist comment because Obama is black?
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Re: a new thread whose purpose is to discuss the "tragedy" threa

Postby Ginzburgh » Sun Oct 19, 2008 10:45 am

Having looked it up on google this is the definition of brownshirt:

1. a storm trooper in Nazi Germany
2. any Nazi; Hitlerite

Arlos, I love your posts but I think you might have over reacted.
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Re: a new thread whose purpose is to discuss the "tragedy" threa

Postby Harrison » Sun Oct 19, 2008 11:09 am

Martrae wrote:For the record...Taxx isn't banned. He got suspended and never came back.


Good riddance to that faggot lol
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Re: a new thread whose purpose is to discuss the "tragedy" threa

Postby Tikker » Sun Oct 19, 2008 11:41 am

I'm just trying to figure out why minrott associated brownshirts with obama?

ps brownshirts were the nazi guys who'd bust into homes at night and take away the non-believers/jews/undesirables
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Re: a new thread whose purpose is to discuss the "tragedy" threa

Postby leah » Sun Oct 19, 2008 12:11 pm

i am so confused, what the hell just happened in that thread

but at the same time i love arlos a little more than usual


ALSO. i miss taxx :(
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Re: a new thread whose purpose is to discuss the "tragedy" threa

Postby Drem » Sun Oct 19, 2008 12:30 pm

Tikker wrote:ps brownshirts were the nazi guys who'd bust into homes at night and take away the non-believers/jews/undesirables


aka paramilitary stormtroopers or SA or whatever, like ginzburgh said. Sturmabteilung, assault detatchment

lol @ arlos' response but how the hell does somebody think a brownshirt has anything to do with obama
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Re: a new thread whose purpose is to discuss the "tragedy" threa

Postby Lueyen » Sun Oct 19, 2008 1:02 pm

For those of you not understanding the inference:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tt2yGzHfy7s

The Brown Shirts were a pseudo military group separate from the military in Germany who were instrumental in Hitlers rise to power. Their main function in this regard was to silence Hitlers political opponents through threat, violence and abuse of power.

Minrott's comment was basically making the coloration between Obama's civilian security force and the brown shirts, and casting Arlos as what was essentially a Nazi storm trooper in the process.

For those who are thinking Arlos reaction was over the top... while I think it was offensive to him to a degree I'm pretty sure he's more thick skinned then that I may be wrong, but I'm thinking that the irony here is a bit to overt to be serious. Someone accuses Arlos of being something akin to a thug who threatens or uses force to silence opposing views... and he threatens a ban and locks a thread? Seems to me a lot like a "I'm gonna get accused of it I might as well do it" stance.
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Re: a new thread whose purpose is to discuss the "tragedy" threa

Postby Eziekial » Sun Oct 19, 2008 1:07 pm

Interestingly enough, almost every politician on both sides of the isle should be issued a brown shirt...
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Re: a new thread whose purpose is to discuss the "tragedy" threa

Postby Lueyen » Sun Oct 19, 2008 1:16 pm

Eziekial wrote:Interestingly enough, almost every politician on both sides of the isle should be issued a brown shirt...


I think white with extra long sleeves may be more appropriate.
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Re: a new thread whose purpose is to discuss the "tragedy" threa

Postby Arlos » Sun Oct 19, 2008 3:36 pm

OK, I wasn't going to respond to this, as I'd made my point, but I couldn't let Lueyen's comment go.

Did I overreact? Perhaps a trifle, but I take EXTREME offense at being conflated with one of the evillest groups ever to exist upon this planet, a force that embodies bigotry, oppression, etc. when pretty much everything I have ever said or done on here is exactly the OPPOSITE of that. Of course, going Godwin's law of all things just reveals how stupid Minrott is, in that he couldn't come up with an actual intelligent insult, but I'm sorry, that's one area which I do not tolerate.

Call me an idiot, an asshole, etc. and I may argue with you, but it's not going to go beyond my limits like that did. Nor will I ever moderate political dissent from my own views, for which I think there should be ample evidence given the fact that I never once have, in all the crap that's been spewed at my positions on this board. I would have thought that my time here and performance as a mod so far would have given me the benefit of the doubt on that particular issue, but apparently not.

As for the link Leuyen posted, I highly doubt Minrott's comment had anything to do with that. Furthermore, I fail to see anything whatsoever negative in what he said. The CIA is a civilian national security agency. So is the NSA, the FBI, and even the Office of Homeland Security. So, given that we already HAVE a massive civilian national security apparatus, how is calling for having a strong one somehow conflated with calling for the creation of an SA-like apparatchik? I think you are MAJORLY reaching for some reason to dislike the man on that one, Lueyen. Might as well slam him for "Having 2 african american children within wedlock!!", or perhaps call him an admitted homo sapien.

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Re: a new thread whose purpose is to discuss the "tragedy" threa

Postby Tikker » Sun Oct 19, 2008 5:12 pm

Arlos wrote:
Did I overreact? Perhaps a trifle, but I take EXTREME offense at being conflated with one of the evillest groups ever to exist upon this planet, a force that embodies bigotry, oppression, etc.
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people say douchebag shit to each other all the time here

personally, I think you over reacted, and abused your mod powers in this situation

If you locked every thread that someone was posting the same kinda stuff, not much would be unlocked here
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Re: a new thread whose purpose is to discuss the "tragedy" threa

Postby Taxx » Mon Oct 20, 2008 11:17 am

Martrae wrote:For the record...Taxx isn't banned. He got suspended and never came back.


no, the board was/is bugged and would log me out everyday and would need me to make a new password which in turn wouldn't be sent to me

<3 harrison, grow up and take the internet more seriously, ok?
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Postby Drem » Mon Oct 20, 2008 11:26 am

hey taxx
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Postby Taxx » Mon Oct 20, 2008 11:28 am

hello sir
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Re: a new thread whose purpose is to discuss the "tragedy" threa

Postby leah » Mon Oct 20, 2008 11:44 am

leah wrote:ALSO. i miss taxx :(


holy crap, that was easier than beetlejuice!
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Postby Taxx » Mon Oct 20, 2008 11:53 am

hello lady
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Postby vonkaar » Mon Oct 20, 2008 11:57 am

Real Taxx? Hi friend.
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Postby Taxx » Mon Oct 20, 2008 12:00 pm

yes real one, hai
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Re: a new thread whose purpose is to discuss the "tragedy" threa

Postby Minrott » Mon Oct 20, 2008 12:04 pm

Lueyen wrote:For those of you not understanding the inference:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tt2yGzHfy7s

The Brown Shirts were a pseudo military group separate from the military in Germany who were instrumental in Hitlers rise to power. Their main function in this regard was to silence Hitlers political opponents through threat, violence and abuse of power.

Minrott's comment was basically making the coloration between Obama's civilian security force and the brown shirts, and casting Arlos as what was essentially a Nazi storm trooper in the process.

For those who are thinking Arlos reaction was over the top... while I think it was offensive to him to a degree I'm pretty sure he's more thick skinned then that I may be wrong, but I'm thinking that the irony here is a bit to overt to be serious. Someone accuses Arlos of being something akin to a thug who threatens or uses force to silence opposing views... and he threatens a ban and locks a thread? Seems to me a lot like a "I'm gonna get accused of it I might as well do it" stance.



That's almost it. "Truth squads" running around doing whatever they can to silence vocal opposition to Obama, the "civilian security force" that's been mentioned, all seem highly similar to how the Nazi party came to power, in my view. Not that I believe Arlos to be a Nazi of any sort, but that followers of The One seem to think that the means to their end doesn't matter. Ban me if you like, I rarely visit because of the drastically leftist views of this place, not to mention the contradiction and hypocrisy: I.E. The direct accusation of Bush or Republicans being "Nazis" while my comment was an indirect association at best leads to an outburst similar to tactics currently used by a large portion of the Obama movement.

Either way, I'm sure you're side will win this election, at this point, and while I would enjoy an upset I don't think McCain is a whole lot better option. As I said in the past, I am going to help you get your way, and vote a straight Dem ticket, because I think you and those like you should get what you're asking for. Obama and a super-majority, filibuster proof house and senate.
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Postby Naethyn » Mon Oct 20, 2008 12:07 pm

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Re: a new thread whose purpose is to discuss the "tragedy" threa

Postby Minrott » Mon Oct 20, 2008 12:13 pm

Arlos wrote:
As for the link Leuyen posted, I highly doubt Minrott's comment had anything to do with that. Furthermore, I fail to see anything whatsoever negative in what he said. The CIA is a civilian national security agency. So is the NSA, the FBI, and even the Office of Homeland Security. So, given that we already HAVE a massive civilian national security apparatus, how is calling for having a strong one somehow conflated with calling for the creation of an SA-like apparatchik? I think you are MAJORLY reaching for some reason to dislike the man on that one, Lueyen. Might as well slam him for "Having 2 african american children within wedlock!!", or perhaps call him an admitted homo sapien.

-Arlos



Of course you don't, because like the rest of your political spectrum, you believe yourself (and your views) to be infallible, your messiah perfect, and anyone who dissents must be of inferior intelligence. Some how, you were convinced that in the new Obamunism, you'll be one of the select few shepherding the poor miserable wretches like me to the greater good. I'm an idiot for not wanting to be herded. I'm a racist or a fool because I can't see how much "help" I need from the government. You can't fathom that you might be shepherded a bit yourself. People like you scare me more than an Obama presidency itself, because it's people like you (or blind supporters of Bush) that give people like Obama, or Bush, the power to destroy this country.

So, like I said, I hope you get what you're asking for. I got it, with Bush, and now regret it completely. The pendulum keeps swinging wider and wilder, and neither of these candidates can or will do anything to stop it.
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