Virginia Tech should just start offing chinese

[leah]

again, i agree with drem.

my point is: express your opinions, but don't go out of your way to be offensive about it. what's the point? why be argumentative just for the sake of being argumentative? there are ways to express how you feel without pissing people off or offending them. try being a little more eloquent instead of just spouting off ugly, hateful words that lump entire groups of people together rather than just specifically the people you're frustrated with.

[Harrison]

Everyone is racist to a degree. Hiding it and making the attempt at defaming others for it is, hilarious to me.

It's a farce and even if you won't admit it aloud, you know it to be true yourself. I'm certainly not going to apply a filter to my thoughts on a messageboard at the risk of insulting someone's widdle sphere of influence.

I mean fuck, the only Asian on the board we have wasn't even insulted. Get a grip on reality here people.

I'm eagerly awaiting Zanchief's glorious entrance into this thread standing up for his downtrodden colored brethren, fists in air!

[Tossica]

Everyone is racist to a degree. Hiding it and making the attempt at defaming others for it is, hilarious to me.

Recognizing cultural differences between people and using those differences to feed your hate are two different things. Hint, one of them is racism.

[leah]

drem just admitted, and i just agreed to having personal stereotypes and stuff, but we both keep them inside and ponder them rather than spewing offensive bullshit all over the place where others might be offened or in a way that would make others think less of us. and i agree with tossica; acknowledging inherent cultural/racial differences is a completely different animal from using the color of a person's skin or their country of origin to dictate how you feel about them.

[Harrison]

Holy shit, she's that fragile? I don't believe that for one second.

Edit: for those wondering, a post was deleted in which this post was in response to.

[Drem]

Everyone is racist to a degree. Hiding it and making the attempt at defaming others for it is, hilarious to me.

It's a farce and even if you won't admit it aloud, you know it to be true yourself. I'm certainly not going to apply a filter to my thoughts on a messageboard at the risk of insulting someone's widdle sphere of influence.

I mean fuck, the only Asian on the board we have wasn't even insulted. Get a grip on reality here people.

I'm eagerly awaiting Zanchief's glorious entrance into this thread standing up for his downtrodden colored brethren, fists in air!

Hey keep being racist dude, you've done a great job of it for the last couple years now. I'm glad that you finally admitted it. Maybe you'll start to consider how bad it is now. Like you said, now because of this thread you'll probably think about what you say next time you're near your vietnamese drill sergeant. Maybe you could like, omg, learn some fuckin tieng viet instead of muttering under your breath about "fucking zipperheads"

See I even had my reservations about you and racism, but I never knew you'd actually come straight out and admit it. Back on the other page you were saying you were too intelligent to be a full-blown racist! I should've realised that you were just a half-blown racist. You fucking racist

[Drem]

Holy shit, she's that fragile? I don't believe that for one second.

Edit: for those wondering, a post was deleted in which this post was in response to.

I removed it because I figured you respond with something arrogant and retarded like that instead of just saying you're sorry. And yeah, she did get that upset, because asian women still actually act like women. They aren't desensitized and don't act like men like American women do. But, I don't think I could ever expect something as human as an apology from someone as cool and learned and worldly as you, right? I have to get a grip on reality!

But Jay is kinda asian, right? and he wasn't offended, so that means nobody should be and you should be able to be as stupid as you want and say all the fucked-up shit that comes into your fucked-up mind

[Harrison]

Like you said, now because of this thread you'll probably think about what you say next time you're near your vietnamese drill sergeant.

You didn't read that post, did you? I said it never crosses my mind. It doesn't even make an appearance as a background thought. Outside of the gaming world I don't think about Asians one way or the other more than anyone else. I've never encountered an issue with any of them for it to occur.

If you reread that post, slower, without frothing at the mouth you might get a different picture not tainted by your emotional attachment to your girlfriend.

I probably should include wop into my racial slur list just to include my own girlfriend's racial relevance to this discussion. For parity's sake, that is. I guess I place more weight on a person's actions than a fucking word typed out on a screen.

P.S. I'd apologize, but you aren't her. I stand by the fact that offhandedly tossed letters on a screen offending people, is sad. But, if she honestly went home and cried over that, I'd apologize as I said.

[Drem]

What, do you want me to have her call you long distance dumbfuck? You insult her, you insult me. That's how a real relationship works. I'm not gonna take your side because you wanna spew your verbal diarrhea and justify it because you don't actually act like that in real life. Fuck, I hope you don't, but I also wish everyone you were around in real life could see how crazy you are in your internet hideaway from reality.

I treat the message board like I treat a coffee shop. I don't say or do anything on here that I haven't or wouldn't do or say in real life. I'm sorry you think it's make-believe where you can exercise your deepest, darkest emotions with no repercussions. It'll come back around to you. Arrogance always gets pwned

[Harrison]

Not at all. Although, I still find it ridiculous someone would break down and run home crying because of letters they oversaw on a screen, not directed at them.

[Harrison]

It would be like someone telling me I should feel bad for telling them I'm going to fucking rape them in an FPS because someone walked by who was or knows a victim of rape, and subsequently flipped their shit and went home crying over fucking letters on a screen not directed at them or even to be taken in that context.

I wouldn't apologize to the guy I was saying it to in the game. That's stupid beyond words, as is taking offense to it.

[Drem]

well, in the same vein that you said Tossica doesn't know you at all, you also don't know anything about my girlfriend. you have no idea why she takes that word so seriously and i'm not about to go into detail. so just don't say it anymore, k? words that mean nothing to you might mean a hell of a lot to someone else for really serious reasons, personal, and specific reasons. you just need to understand and accept that and stop saying derogatory things. racism is BAD. PERIOD

now i'm gonna go make a berserk tangent thread because i don't wanna derail that other one

[Arlos]

Harrison, you're right, we don't know you in person.

As a result, your posts here are our window into your psyche, as it were. What you write and the word choices you make go a lot towards revealing your thought processes. So, when your word choice and written attitude when it comes to racial issues, whether they be black, asian, arab, etc. is almost invariably a racial epithet.... Well, you see what impression that leaves.

You can argue all you want that it's a false impression, and to an extent you're even probably right, but the fact remains: if there WASN'T some level of racist attitudes there, why are your first choices racist epithets? Why did you feel it necessary to point out race when it came to the story? You could just as easily have said something like, "Wow, is V-Tech the new deranged murderer capitol or something?" or the equivalent. The fact you included race indicates that YOU think it's an important factor for some reason, which must perforce be negative.

Something for you to think about, anyway....

-Arlos

[Harrison]

Yeah, I honestly thought that they should just start stringing up Chinese at Vtech. *blink*

And Drem, I won't use the word anymore. Its original intent was to prove a point, though.

[brinstar]

non-asians don't hack or cheat in online games apparently

film at 11

[Harrison]

No, Germans do it pretty heavily as well. Just ridiculously less so in comparison...

If I pulled up the ban database from my old server for people banned it would show they're far and away the most banned for blatant hacking and/or exploiting.

I entertained the thought of banning entire IP ranges because of how many there were, seriously.

[Jay]

When I say that I'm not offended, I mean it. I hope you guys don't misinterpret that as a lack of pride for my nationality or lack of concern in general.

This is all silly. This thread is silly. It started with a silly guy, making a silly statement that can be considered racist. It's loud, overt, and doesn't have any particular point. I just chalk it up with other stupid shit that Finawin has said, that you've all said, that I've said. How many people made small penis jokes about me? How many people have targeted me for jokes about ethnicity on this board? It's all fun and games and hey I'm laughing with you, so why is it any different that Finawin said it?

Want to know the most racist thing about this entire thread? The fact that it was a stupid joke and you guys are still talking about it like you're some kind of racial defender of justice. Wake up! Finawin's stupid! The arguement could have ended as soon as you realized that and stopped talking about it like it was a real issue. It's really not. You guys are all like the white guy who makes sure to have fried chicken and Tahitian Treat at his barbecue because he knows his black friends are coming and they probably like that stuff. Get over it already.

Let me tell you all something about racism. Loud, blunt and overt racism is only harmful when you let it be. When some retard yells nigger, kike, slope and you get your panties in a twist instead of brushing him off like the retard that he is, that's when overt racism prevails. Real racism, the dangerous kind, is covert. It's hidden because the racists do it politely with a smile on their faces. They will turn you down for a job, deny your loan and disregard you without ever uttering a racial slur.

Bottom line: When Finawin says something dumb like "Dur hay gaiz letz off sum o dem cha kneez cuz they cheet mai gaymez", best way to end his mock racism is to ignore it until he gets bored and just stops saying it.

[Trielelvan]

Let me tell you all something about racism. Loud, blunt and overt racism is only harmful when you let it be. When some retard yells nigger, kike, slope and you get your panties in a twist instead of brushing him off like the retard that he is, that's when overt racism prevails. Real racism, the dangerous kind, is covert. It's hidden because the racists do it politely with a smile on their faces. They will turn you down for a job, deny your loan and disregard you without ever uttering a racial slur.

A - fucking - men.
Good grief... and hello, for the record, Jay isn't the only Asian on this board. The race of people Harri is referring to IS directly associated with me (btw, you forgot "chink" in that there list crackerboy) and I'm not offended either =P
He's always made mention of the asian hacker/gold farmer/cheaters to which I usually jab him about it in some way, but never seriously. Words are words *shrug*

[Drem]

If you let an idiot get away with being an idiot then how does that make you any better?

[Harrison]

You always say people need to relax, or not take things so seriously.

This is one case where an assload of you went off the deep end for no reason.

[Jay]

If you let an idiot get away with being an idiot then how does that make you any better?

Cuz it's not my job to correct every idiot I ever encounter? It's not my concern. Seriously, I can't believe you posted that thinking that statement held any water whatsoever.

You and I both probably run into idiots every single day of our lives. We run into people who think we're idiots. Do you stop what you're doing to correct them every time? I sure as hell don't. If I had no job, hobbies or friends I still wouldn't have enough time in the day to do that.

[Drem]

you guys are talking about using racial epithets in place of a word like "idiot" like it's okay as long as you don't "actually" mean it. shut the fuck up, you're both retarded. go around talking like that to people that aren't as stupid as you are and see how far it gets you

[Jay]

So what you're saying is, you have no argument so you're gonna resort to calling me names right? Ok dude. My mistake for thinking that you're better than that.

Here's some advice. Hold your girlfriend, pop a good movie in, sit back in your chair and forget about what Harrison said. It's not your job to change him, defend Asians, or to take what someone said in jest out of context and launch an assault on racism over a harmless joke. That's my entire point.

How long have we all known each other now? I can tell you that I use derogatory terms around my friends all the time that aren't limited to race. They don't amp up and try to debate social injustice with me, they laugh it off. Of course, I'm not gonna go to Compton and declare my hatred for niggers anytime soon to strangers, but really, did Harrison do that? No, he said something in his usually flashy ignorant style to a bunch of people he's familiar with.

Let me spell it out for you since you're so blinded by your teenage angst to understand. GET OVER IT! Triel and I, the only Asians on this board, got over it before it even happened. Why? Because I'm not gonna let someone's ignorant statement mentally break me every time I see it, unlike yourself, who seems to see red every single time someone disagrees. In fact, I have less a problem with what Harrison said because its silly, and more a problem with you being pretentious as usual and dragging out this "problem" like some sort of superhero for the Asians. I've politely given you reasons the whole way through and you responded by what, calling me retarded, telling me I should talk to people who aren't as big an idiot as I am? Seriously, get a grip on yourself before you develop an ulcer dude.

[Drem]

yes, i'm calling you names, and i NEVER do that anymore, so you should consider yourself a serious exception to my normal code. you've obviously hit a very sore spot with me and the people i care about

so let me spell it out to you: my girlfriend's cousin doesn't know who her father is. i'm sure while he was raping her mother during the war he was very nice and didn't mean anything he said. i mean, nobody should care about "random words" like that, right?

you know, some people try to forget past wounds. and pieces of shit like you keep them fresh. it doesn't matter what your intentions or perceptions of a situation are. common sense wins at the end of the day and you don't seem to have a lot of that

if you think tossing around racial slurs is okay because you don't mean it then you're about as cool as carlos mencia

[vonkaar]

When I say that I'm not offended, I mean it. I hope you guys don't misinterpret that as a lack of pride for my nationality or lack of concern in general.

This is all silly. This thread is silly. It started with a silly guy, making a silly statement that can be considered racist. It's loud, overt, and doesn't have any particular point. I just chalk it up with other stupid shit that Finawin has said, that you've all said, that I've said. How many people made small penis jokes about me? How many people have targeted me for jokes about ethnicity on this board? It's all fun and games and hey I'm laughing with you, so why is it any different that Finawin said it?

Want to know the most racist thing about this entire thread? The fact that it was a stupid joke and you guys are still talking about it like you're some kind of racial defender of justice. Wake up! Finawin's stupid! The arguement could have ended as soon as you realized that and stopped talking about it like it was a real issue. It's really not. You guys are all like the white guy who makes sure to have fried chicken and Tahitian Treat at his barbecue because he knows his black friends are coming and they probably like that stuff. Get over it already.

Let me tell you all something about racism. Loud, blunt and overt racism is only harmful when you let it be. When some retard yells nigger, kike, slope and you get your panties in a twist instead of brushing him off like the retard that he is, that's when overt racism prevails. Real racism, the dangerous kind, is covert. It's hidden because the racists do it politely with a smile on their faces. They will turn you down for a job, deny your loan and disregard you without ever uttering a racial slur.

Bottom line: When Finawin says something dumb like "Dur hay gaiz letz off sum o dem cha kneez cuz they cheet mai gaymez", best way to end his mock racism is to ignore it until he gets bored and just stops saying it.

That was one of the coolest posts I've read on NT in 2009. I have nothing to add to it other than that. I enjoyed it =).