Virginia Tech should just start offing chinese

[brinstar]

to draw a parallel with something else:

i don't make "your mom" jokes anymore. one of my closest pals had his mom die of cancer when he was 16 (a very rough age to lose anyone you're close to, especially a mom). when i was first getting to know him, i hit him with a particularly nasty one. he kinda laughed it off, but then later someone else that was there told me the truth. i felt like a shitheel for a week.

of course, he's a trooper about it, and won't freak out when someone that doesn't know him very well drops a "your mom" joke on him, but every time it happens i can tell it hurts him. i don't use those jokes on anyone anymore, because you never know.


cross-reference this with another occasion--

me: man, that guy must've ridden the short bus to school

johnny: dude, my brother rides the short bus to school

me: shit

[leah]

i have done such things several times and no longer make any jokes about anyone's family unless i am damn sure of their situation.

that said, my favorite thing ever is when josh and trent (his half-brother fyi, dunno if i've mentioned him here before) make "your mom" jokes. so wrong, but so funny.

[Drem]

i have done such things several times and no longer make any jokes about anyone's family unless i am damn sure of their situation

amen. brinstar and leah are good people <3

[Drem]

omg you really did take me seriously. don't you even get it dumbass? i went so close to home with vietnamese to prove that being a racist is FUCKING STUPID. look at how pissed you suddenly got when i called you out for taking me seriously about a very serious vietnamese issue. that's exactly what harrison's trying to do to me: make me look dumb for taking him seriously. you even called me as bad as him. well, maybe i was. maybe you finally get the point of my sentiment now

i don't need to pretend about anything. everyone she knows loves me, just like i love them. i don't have brothers or sisters. i have a couple close friends but as far as family, hers is the closest thing i've got at this point besides mom & dad, and they accept me. i live that culture every day of my life now. i have to weigh her beliefs and lifestyle (communism and nichiren buddhism) with mine (drugs sex and alcoho -.-) 100% of the time if i want this to work. sorry you're jealous or something but i'm happier and sleeping and eating better than i ever have in my life

@vonkaar: pho's pretty good but i dunno it's kinda weird. most of that food is weird. chicken feet? pig stomach? cool once a year i guess. bo xao xa ot (lemongrass beef!) and that caramelized bacon are awesome tho. video games sound awesome in the end

@gaazy: you're totally right. sorry i spouted off about it but i mean it's like brinstar said. he's a soldier now. why can't he clean up his vocabulary? i hold people like him to a different moral standard because every soldier i've ever met or known (like my friend that apparently ate human flesh when a car bomber blew himself up in front of his turret) is an incredible person in every aspect. and that's why i never say racist terms. ever. but it sure feels great to be "racist" about racists for some reason you can draw some sort of weird parallel about me being as bad as him. i'm definitely as serious as him. but morally i don't feel egotistical or arrogant whatsoever about making fun of a racist. racism is just F-ing pointless. period. and i have no problem fighting for that belief

Lol @ jealous. Yeah totally dude. You go from OMG RACISM YOU ASSHOLES, to making jokes about rape to me being jealous that you love Vietnamese culture. Not off base at all bud. You're pretty hard to understand but I think I've got you figured out man. You're one of those insecure kids that has to live through his partner. Like you're gf's asian so you have to pretend to be. Like out of the blue you post Vietnamese language and watch anime. Cute. I suppose if your gf were an artist you'd be foaming at the mouth on NT about how great Picasso was. It's all good though bro, I'm happy when anyone's happy. I just hope next time you see a thread like this that you're dating someone who knows how to take things with a grain of salt and next time you wanna get all emo rage that you date someone who knows how to chill the fuck out =P

god, it always turns into a finger pointing thing with people like you. youu act sooo much better than me, but then you take it to a ridiculously personal level where you're trying to tell me who I am? well, sorry, but i've already got a strong sense of who i am and what i want to do in my life. and i don't need to justify those interests to you. but, i'm going to. and take notes, because i'm gonna do it with tact and without stooping to your level and insulting you

-i'm about as far away from living vicariously through her as i can be. yep, i've been to a couple parties now after 6 months of dating eachother, can speak about 5 phrases, and know how to cook two dishes. in fact i don't even think i've started to talk about her (here on NT) until within the last month or two after i was sure we weren't breaking up and we'd gotten through the awkward first stages of the relationship. if anything i'm the douchebag asshole that's not caring enough about her and trying to just AMericanize her and make her forget her culture. like her sister's boyfriend that doesn't even want her nephew to learn vietnamese. he's just like "yeah whatever he doesn't really need to know that" but i'm not gonna start talking about douchey Americans :p

look, anyone that's posted here should know that the culture I care most about is Russia. I've already talked enough about that over the years, though. I can already speak that language, play its classical music, and cook its food. So now I'm moving on to new territory and learning about asian culture. adding it to my repertoire. sorry but you just can't make me feel bad about educating myself

-i don't know why anime's a surprise. well, maybe because i've never really talked about it, but i've mentioned berserk before. i've been reading those books for two years now. my roommate showed em to me. my girlfriend's never seen or heard of it. i tried to introduce her to it but she said it was stupid. she watches tom & jerry and looney tunes and stuff. and i think she watched Doraemon when she was a kid or something /shrug. and her favorite artist is Dali, since you decided to bring up high art. we look through my Dali coffee table book pretty often

-if we broke up i'd probably in the end just be relieved that i don't have to try to deal with a communist on a regular basis anymore. but i'd also be missing out on a lot of amazing things and a seriously solid lifestyle that puts most of the Americans I know to shame. so comprising with eachother every day is really a double-edged sword without a handle that i gotta grip every day. it's give and take.... how a relationship's supposed to be. i almost wish it were as sad and pathetic as you just described it dude. i really do. a lot of the 18 and 19yo students that hit on the asian girls at parties are exactly like that. they just want it for the novelty. but unfortunately i'm a realist, and i realise that balancing two lifestyles is really Fing hard and this is the most demanding/rewarding relationship i've ever been graced with

just take leah's advice and don't talk about something until you're sure about it. that's probably some of the best advice anyone could ever give to anyone

[Tikker]

god, it always turns into a finger pointing thing with people like you. youu act sooo much better than me, but then you take it to a ridiculously personal level where you're trying to tell me who I am? well, sorry, but i've already got a strong sense of who i am and what i want to do in my life.

you realize this is exactly what you do, all the time?

[Drem]

i can think of two or three threads in recent history where i've done something like this. i don't even swear at people or call them mean unless they do it first, which is something i'm trying to stop all together. you, on the other hand, are negative and miserable on a consistent basis. if pointing that out to someone makes me just as bad in your eyes then so be it

[Tikker]

Congrats doing it again

[Drem]

lol.... so pointless to talk with people like you sometimes

i'm not better than anyone man, i'm just different. and i can accept other people being different. but apparently, most of you can't. you've made that very obvious in this thread. like when you try to make fun of me for having a beautiful woman be a part of every day of my life and absorbing her language and cuisine in the process. wow i'm such a sad person!!! i mean... seriously? how would i ever feel bad about doing that? i'm gonna go cry in the corner and try to hold myself back from cutting my wrists guys!!! get over yourselves. i'm just as human as anyone else on the board. i'm not better than you, i just think different. and i'm sorry that you can't respect that. because i respect all of you /shrug

[brinstar]

So now I'm moving on to new territory and learning about asian culture.

newsflash dude russia IS in asia hehe iceburn

[Drem]

lol owned

[Jay]

EXHIBIT A:

god, it always turns into a finger pointing thing with people like you. youu act sooo much better than me, but then you take it to a ridiculously personal level where you're trying to tell me who I am? well, sorry, but i've already got a strong sense of who i am and what i want to do in my life. and i don't need to justify those interests to you. but, i'm going to. and take notes, because i'm gonna do it with tact and without stooping to your level and insulting you

Yeah Drem, don't stoop to anyone's level.

omg you really did take me seriously. don't you even get it dumbass?

A racist surrounded by other racists? No way.....

If you have bigger fish to fry why are you still here trying to justify being a racist? Dumbass

yes, i'm calling you names, and i NEVER do that anymore, so you should consider yourself a serious exception to my normal code. you've obviously hit a very sore spot with me and the people i care about

so let me spell it out to you: my girlfriend's cousin doesn't know who her father is. i'm sure while he was raping her mother during the war he was very nice and didn't mean anything he said. i mean, nobody should care about "random words" like that, right?

you know, some people try to forget past wounds. and pieces of shit like you keep them fresh. it doesn't matter what your intentions or perceptions of a situation are. common sense wins at the end of the day and you don't seem to have a lot of that

if you think tossing around racial slurs is okay because you don't mean it then you're about as cool as carlos mencia

you guys can be little Carlos Mencia wannabes as much as you want. just know that like probably half the people around you or more think you're a piece of shit when you talk like that.

EXHIBIT B:

i have done such things several times and no longer make any jokes about anyone's family unless i am damn sure of their situation

amen. brinstar and leah are good people <3

Yep, you could learn a thing or 2 from them.

so let me spell it out to you: my girlfriend's cousin doesn't know who her father is. i'm sure while he was raping her mother during the war he was very nice and didn't mean anything he said. i mean, nobody should care about "random words" like that, right?

you know, some people try to forget past wounds. and pieces of shit like you keep them fresh. it doesn't matter what your intentions or perceptions of a situation are. common sense wins at the end of the day and you don't seem to have a lot of that

ahahahahahahahaha. really, if you don't take racist shit seriously then why'd you take what i said seriously? where are your priorities? you really think that's true? you really think i would drop a knowledge bomb like that if it were real? i even tried to keep it distant with the whole 'cousin' part.

I don't think there's much else I have to say anymore.

[Harrison]

I don't understand how Jay got so involved when I am the one who is supposed to be hated lol

I am entertained though, so do continue...

[Drem]

Look dude you were the first one to call me out for caring about this. I don't know why it's such a big deal to you. But you can conveniently splice my posts together chronologically backwards to prove your point all day long. I just hope you realise you're being belligerent and inciting all of it. Because that's kinda my point from the beginning. Racism makes me people act silly. I said some silly things and they did indeed hit home with you, because you're still talking about them. Just like saying "zipperhead" hit home with me. I really hope you can understand my sentiment instead of just trying desperately to make me look like a fool. I've already said I respect everyone here.... harrison just seriously pissed me off because he says crap like that all the time and I figured at some point he'd grow out of it

The reason I said "with tact and without insulting you" was in direct relation to my last post. Not the ones before it. You don't have to quote my old posts to me dude, I remember them well. I MADE THEM. And I've decided it's not worth stooping to your guys' level anymore to prove my point. I've lived and learned, so to speak. You obviously think I'm some sort of a weird joke of a person because I care so much about Vietnam due to my girlfriend. I'm really sorry you'd prefer me to disregard her life. It's just another culture that I'm adding color to my own livlihood with. But really, for you to call me a sad pathetic clinger that lives vicariously through my girlfriend... or to even have the balls to tell me I'm pretending to care about the most important holiday in her life.... well... that's just ignorant. It was a learning experience. A first, for me. I was taking it all in and loving it.... very far away from pretending. That'd be like me telling her she's pretending to care about Christmas.

Obviously outside of this particular instance we've never really fought about anything so I'm sad this for you has drawn some sort of weird picture about my character because I tried to defend her ethnicity and her feelings. Sorry Jay

[Drem]

oops harrison tossed that in there. my post is direct @ jay. but, yeah, seriously, i don't really get it either

jay can i just ask, are you chinese? because if you are then i could understand your mentality more. every chinese i meet think their culture is like exclusive and that foreigners should GTFO. a lot of chinese won't even tell me their real chinese names. so if that's your history and background then i can better understand why you think i'm so laughable because i've experienced a lot of that kinda attitude first hand

and speaking of chinese... going to the airport tomorrow morning to get a friend's friend coming in from taiwan. sleeeeeeeeeep time

[Gypsiyee]

he's vietnamese.....

[ClakarEQ]

to draw a parallel with something else:

i don't make "your mom" jokes anymore. one of my closest pals had his mom die of cancer when he was 16 (a very rough age to lose anyone you're close to, especially a mom). when i was first getting to know him, i hit him with a particularly nasty one. he kinda laughed it off, but then later someone else that was there told me the truth. i felt like a shitheel for a week.

of course, he's a trooper about it, and won't freak out when someone that doesn't know him very well drops a "your mom" joke on him, but every time it happens i can tell it hurts him. i don't use those jokes on anyone anymore, because you never know.


cross-reference this with another occasion--

me: man, that guy must've ridden the short bus to school

johnny: dude, my brother rides the short bus to school

me: shit

Slight de-rail but something came to mind when I read this.
I had a guy working for me and we had this really long road trip to a plant of ours, from Detroit to Boston, about 3 weeks after 9/11 (why we didn't fly there). I attempt to bridge the boss / employee role with my staff such that I try to be a peer more than me being the boss.

Anyway, we're in the car listening to music and talking guy talk, etc. Sarah Jessica Parker came up and I was like, yeah she's pretty hot but she needs to get a weasel to gnaw that mole off her face, she'd look really hot then. Of course a complete brain fart on my part as he has a half inch mole on his cheek (FUCK). I said I was sorry but the damage was done. I wasn't worried about him doing something like going to HR, but I was worried that he'd think every time I saw him that I should throw a weasel at his face .

Worst part, about 4 months go by and he had taken a week off, he had a bandage on his face when he got back. He had the mole surgically removed. That is one of very few times in my life that I've felt like the biggest asshole of all time . That said, I'm in the same boat as Brin and try to take extra steps to make sure I don't say shit in ignorance that can effect another.

[leah]

WHOA that sucks :S your heart was in the right place, but brain farts like that suck for everyone. sorry you had that experience (but at least it's made you more cautious!)

incidentally, sjp also got her mole removed!

[Drem]

he's vietnamese.....

oh okay. sorry, jay. see what i mean tho? you can't ignore racism when it's close to home. look how mad you got at me after i said that (i got mad, too, i'm not denying it)

anyways, i'm sorry, jay

[Jay]

In my lifetime I've been called every name in the book. I've been turned down by girls, beaten up as a kid, and been harassed because of my ethnicity. Even today I deal with stuff being Asian trying to perform business in a world run by people who cast a stigma upon me because other Asians are known for shady business. None of that stuff gets me mad, so, you why do you think anything in this thread will?

I've been saying it over and over in every post I've made dude. I don't take this shit seriously here. I got over it before it happened. If I really got upset over what was said on NT that was the slightest bit racist, I'd never be able to carry myself in the real world where the racism is magnified a million times over. I come here for lighthearted fun, whether its to see Harrison say something ridiculously ignorant and then watch the rest of the board fall for the same trap again, or to watch you, Drem, blow a gasket over a different opinion yet again and feeling like I would care more than the slightest bit over the small details of your life.

I poke and prod you for lols, nothing more. Pointing out your inconsistencies, proving your hypocrisy is no more than just shits and giggles. With anyone on NT, you can either share the amusement, or be the amusement. Getting miffed over someone saying something just proves that you're weak of mind. Exhibiting control when someone directs something at you is the best way to counter anything. The funny part is, nothing that Harrison said was even directed at you lol.

Truth be told, I'm trying to be nicer here. However, watching you erupt is a guilty pleasure that I indulged in this thread. With that being said, don't apologize. In fact, thank you. I've had fun.

Oh, and just for fun's sake, the problem you have is racism right? Oh hey look!

jay can i just ask, are you chinese? because if you are then i could understand your mentality more. every chinese i meet think their culture is like exclusive and that foreigners should GTFO. a lot of chinese won't even tell me their real chinese names.

GG trying to profile me but no dice. Gypsiyee is correct. I am Vietnamese.

[Drem]

yeah, but was it really hypocrisy if i was just bullshitting to fight with you? see, everyone on NT thinks they're the best. that's just how it is. you just did it. i already apologized for assuming you were chinese but you felt the need to be a dick anyway about it. tikker did it when he said i did it. harrison did it when he made the comment in the first place, etc. etc... and now of course, by me posting this, you could say i've done it again. i just think it's hilarious. the loops of nonsense this place can create. i've never seen a more dysfunctional MB

[brinstar]

stfu honky

[Drem]

mormons came to my house tonight

[Trielelvan]

i've never seen a more dysfunctional MB

You're only just now realizing this? lol

[Evermore]

I

GG trying to profile me but no dice. Gypsiyee is correct. I am Vietnamese.

this explains the small penis.

[10sun]

I've been turned down by girls, beaten up as a kid, and been harassed because of my ethnicity.

Negative. It was because you are an asshole.