Letterman vs Palin

[Jay]

I think Palin is making herself look retarded again. Dave went a bit too far but that's what late night talk is about imo.

[Drem]

from ABC news:

The line prompted an angry response from the Palins. In a statement posted on Facebook (lol) and distributed to the press yesterday, the governor said:

“Concerning Letterman's comments about my young daughter (and I doubt he'd ever dare make such comments about anyone else's daughter): 'Laughter incited by sexually-perverted comments made by a 62-year-old male celebrity aimed at a 14-year-old girl is not only disgusting, but it reminds us some Hollywood/NY entertainers have a long way to go in understanding what the rest of America understands - that acceptance of inappropriate sexual comments about an underage girl, who could be anyone's daughter, contributes to the atrociously high rate of sexual exploitation of minors by older men who use and abuse others.' ”

Todd Palin added: “Any 'jokes' about raping my 14-year-old are despicable. Alaskans know it and I believe the rest of the world knows it, too.”

Letterman responded last night by saying that the joke was aimed at 18-year-old Bristol Palin, not Willow: “We were, as we often do, making jokes about people in the news and we made some jokes about Sarah Palin and her daughter [Bristol]... and now they’re upset with me…” Letterman said.

“These are not jokes made about her 14-year-old daughter. I would never, never make jokes about raping or having sex of any description with a 14-year-old girl.... Am I guilty of poor taste? Yes. Did I suggest that it was okay for her 14-year-old daughter to be having promiscuous sex? No."

Letterman also invited the Alaska governor to come on his show.

UPDATE: Per ABC News' Kate Snow: Gov. Palin pushed back at Letterman again this morning, issuing a statement via Palin PAC spokesperson Meghan Stapelton.

"The Palins have no intention of providing a ratings boost for David Letterman by appearing on his show," Stapelton said in an email to ABC News. "Plus, it would be wise to keep Willow away from David Letterman."




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*jaw drops to floor*

i can't believe anyone in this country voted for that stupid bag

live TV is great because stuff like this happens. everyone goes "hahahaha" and forgets about it by the end of the monologue but then we still have these anal people that get butthurt because anyone says something bad about them. /yawn

she's making herself look stupid indeed

[brinstar]

"give him a ratings boost"

not only is she a fucking moron, but she's conceited too

fuck dat ho

[Drem]

well it's true. everyone would tune in to watch her berate herself

[Jay]

well it's true. everyone would tune in to watch her berate herself

Yeah I'd definitely have extra incentive to deviate from Conan to watch her on Dave. No doubt. Regardless of how much you dislike her, you can't argue that she's not an interesting person.

[leah]

so what exactly did letterman say, anyway?

also, i saw her on the today show talking to matt lauer and she looks like she's lost some weight. her face is much narrower now.

[Lueyen]

so what exactly did letterman say, anyway?

also, i saw her on the today show talking to matt lauer and she looks like she's lost some weight. her face is much narrower now.

Top Ten Highlights Of Sarah Palin's Trip To New York :
#2. Bought makeup at Bloomingdale's to update her "slutty flight attendant" look

One awkward moment for Sarah Palin at the Yankee game, during the seventh inning, her daughter was knocked up by Alex Rodriguez.

- It was her younger daughter Willow who went to the game with Palin and Letterman later clarified that the joke was concerning the older daughter Bristol who wasn't at the game.

[leah]

so what exactly did letterman say, anyway?

also, i saw her on the today show talking to matt lauer and she looks like she's lost some weight. her face is much narrower now.

Top Ten Highlights Of Sarah Palin's Trip To New York :
#2. Bought makeup at Bloomingdale's to update her "slutty flight attendant" look

One awkward moment for Sarah Palin at the Yankee game, during the seventh inning, her daughter was knocked up by Alex Rodriguez.

- It was her younger daughter Willow who went to the game with Palin and Letterman later clarified that the joke was concerning the older daughter Bristol who wasn't at the game.

oooooh. i had heard about the slutty flight attendant thing ("don't malign our flight attendants, we love them!" lol) but i wasn't sure what the deal was with all the hubbub about statutory rape jokes.

[Zanchief]

This is why no one of sane mind takes republican's seriously.

[Gypsiyee]

One awkward moment for Sarah Palin at the Yankee game, during the seventh inning, her daughter was knocked up by Alex Rodriguez.

they seriously tried to turn that minor joke into something about raping their young daughter...? I mean you have to be stupid to not recognize where that joke would stem from.

she's embarrassingly retarded. I really don't get how anyone looks at her as an idol. my realtor is one of them. of course, my realtor also tells us we 'don't want to live in a neighborhood because it's a bad area' the minute she sees a black person, so there you go.

look at some of these comments actually made.. holy jesus. http://watching-tv.ew.com/2009/06/david ... n-cbs.html

Tom Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 08:49 AM EST


The funniest part of all this to me is that the same people who thought Imus should get canned for his 'Nappy Headed Ho's' comment are comfortable saying "hey Dave made a joke" or "someone else wrote it for him" and protecting him. Hypocrisy much?


tt2 Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 08:48 AM EST


Geez, he already apologized. Sincere or not, you can take it or leave it.


watson Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 08:47 AM EST


I could not agree more, Ken. I'm praying that Dave just ignores her and moves on.


elisabeth Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 08:46 AM EST


David Letterman's comments were way off base, and I am dismayed that the media are so left wing that they are criticizing Palin's protests and trying to boost Letterman in the eyes of the left-wing. Exploitation of children in a sexual manner, or any manner, is never appropriate. Letterman's comments prove that he is desperate to squash Palin's political aspirations and that he and the left-wing are afraid of her and any other woman. Using a child to accomplish this mean spirited attack is reprehensible. Shame on Letterman and the media who is protecting him.


obamasucks Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 08:46 AM EST


Hey, Dave how would you feel if some homOsexual said that your son Harry Joseph was raped?

HOW WOULD THAT FEEL YOU SCUM!!


devanoy Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 08:46 AM EST


Amen! And while we are on the subject of ignoring people, can EW.com (and all other news media outlets) stop all coverage on Speidi? If you don't report it, they will go away.


JT Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 08:38 AM EST


@Babs, ummm, yeah, nobody wants to read your paragraph of ramblings. Keep it short. Fire Dave?? His ratings are about to go up which means more money, so firing Dave not going to happen.


Al Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 08:32 AM EST


I've got a better idea. Letterman should give a sincere apology before he moves on. He messed up. It happens. He needs to take his lumps.


billyD Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 08:32 AM EST


Amen Brother!


pai Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 08:30 AM EST


Didn't he already clam up Friday? Didn't your own web site have a story on that? Who is the real pot stirrer? Letterman or the media glomming on to it. The Palins didn't like a joke, they said something about it. Letterman wasn't trying to insinuate rape, he explained it and that was the end of it. So Ken Tucker, you clam up.


BABS Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 08:30 AM EST


Letterman is an unethical liberal hack. And you Marxist liberals have the audacity to whine about talk radio and the "Fairness Doctrine?" Lets implement the "Fairness Doctrine" right now an get David Letterman fired, because that is what would happen to a conservative making similar remarks about a liberal.

Hey OhioGuy, I love the way you start hurling insults when we start playing the game by the standards your party set. This is the politics of hatred brought to you by the so called "THINKING" party of tolerance. What a joke, your definition of free thought is spouting a bunch of 1960's American counter culture rhetoric that was pounded into your brainwashed mind at some university. The true "THINKING" people actually took the time to question why some washed up retread from the 1960s never made it off campus to earn a living in the more profitable private sector. A so called "THINKING" person wouldn't cross the line by attacking a 14 year old child. You’re the joke.

[Gidan]

If she cant handle talk show comments, what in the world would have happened if she was actually VP and not just the governor of Alaska.

[Gypsiyee]

the universe would've imploded on itself.

I love the comments about how 'if it was him talking about liberals he'd be fired, liberals are such hypocrites!!!" but there's very little to no news on the GOP activist in SC saying an escaped gorilla was Michelle Obama's ancestor.

the only reason this is news is because it's Palin grasping for any attention possible. just let her fall off the planet already =\

[Lueyen]

One awkward moment for Sarah Palin at the Yankee game, during the seventh inning, her daughter was knocked up by Alex Rodriguez.

they seriously tried to turn that minor joke into something about raping their young daughter...? I mean you have to be stupid to not recognize where that joke would stem from.

So you think she should have made the assumption that Letterman was making a joke about the daughter who wasn't there? Furthermore that it is natural for her to think that any sexual indiscretion must reference her older daughter based on the fact that she became pregnant at a young age out of wedlock?

[Tikker]

seriously tho, who gives a shit?

Dave made a funny, but about the wrong daughter

like most of us, he probably didn't give 2 shits that there is another daughter, just familiar enough that she has at least 1 easy daughter, and it's joke fodder

[Gypsiyee]

One awkward moment for Sarah Palin at the Yankee game, during the seventh inning, her daughter was knocked up by Alex Rodriguez.

they seriously tried to turn that minor joke into something about raping their young daughter...? I mean you have to be stupid to not recognize where that joke would stem from.

So you think she should have made the assumption that Letterman was making a joke about the daughter who wasn't there? Furthermore that it is natural for her to think that any sexual indiscretion must reference her older daughter based on the fact that she became pregnant at a young age out of wedlock?

uh, yes? anyone with half a brain would connect the dots and assume that a joke about being knocked up would be referencing the fact that....she had a daughter that got knocked up? do you honestly think the joke would've been made if that event hadn't occurred? Do you think the punch would be made if it wasn't for the irony of a staunch advocate of abstinence-only education having her daughter be the poster child for what happens when you're that ignorant to reality? do you honestly think this would be big news if it was anyone but the political attention whore who has nothing else to go on? do you seriously think that David Letterman was going out of his way to insinuate rape involving her 14 year old?

jesus, Lueyen - how disappointing. You're smarter than that.

[Jay]

I'm dying to see Mindia's take on all of this.

I think that the jokes are slightly, very slightly, too much. It was an oversight on Dave's part to joke about Bristol when it was Willow who was actually at the game. As a result, the Palins are upset that that sort of raunchy joke was possibly directed at their 14 year old and they were pissed about it. I felt bad for them because as parents I think initially their intent was to protect their child. Even if it was clear that the joke was about Bristol I still think that naturally as parents they have a right to condemn Dave Letterman for his tasteless humor. Even Dave says the jokes were tasteless (doesn't mean they aren't funny). My only thing is that if the issue is to keep their daughters away from public scrutiny and satire, then they fail as parents. Parading their daughters around in the public eye is what draws attention. Attention is what comedians use to create jokes. So long as Bristol appears on the news and keeps speaking publicly, she will continue to get treated the same as other public figures. Her parents' constant yammering about the whole Dave situation and the repeated "kicking of the dead horse" effectively makes both her kids more targetable.

[Harrison]

seriously tho, who gives a shit?

Dave made a funny, but about the wrong daughter

like most of us, he probably didn't give 2 shits that there is another daughter, just familiar enough that she has at least 1 easy daughter, and it's joke fodder

[Lueyen]

Gypsiyee -
Does sleeping with a man out of wedlock make you easy or a slut? Does pregnancy out of wedlock automatically do the same thing? This is to the best of my knowledge the only basis for what few have said but many apparently believe about Bristol Palin. I'm quite sure Sarah Palin doesn't view Bristol in that light, I'm willing to bet she doesn't believe her be so easy that she could be talked into sex in the time it takes to play 6 or 7 innings of a baseball game. Given that she doesn't view her daughter as some tramp I think it's logical that she didn't make an immediate connection as to who Letterman meant by "daughter" given that Bristol wasn't even at the event Letterman was talking about. Now if both Bristol and Willow had been at the game I could see your point, but that isn't the case. I guess I can see how you can make the connection to the daughter that wasn't there in lieu of the one who was if you believe Bristol to be some promiscuous tramp, but given that I have two sisters who both got pregnant outside of wedlock at about that same age I don't tend to view young unwed mothers in that light.

As far as it being an issue because of her stance on sexual education, you are a victim of a lie told so many times that it's nearly been accepted as absolute truth (not surprising since there are a great many surrounding Palin). While she supports abstinence until marriage types of programs, in 2006 during a debate in Alaska she stated:

I’m pro-contraception, and I think kids who may not hear about it at home should hear about it in other avenues

Hmm go figure, tell your kids to wait until marriage, but also make them aware of ways to protect themselves should they not heed your advice, sounds like the approach many here advocate. Is it 100 percent effective? Obviously not, but kids do stupid things all the time and often don't heed the advice of their parents. It doesn't make parents bad parents, and it doesn't make those kids anything beyond someone who made a bad decision.

do you honestly think this would be big news if it was anyone but the political attention whore who has nothing else to go on? do you seriously think that David Letterman was going out of his way to insinuate rape involving her 14 year old?

I certainly don't think Palin would prefer press on this overshadowing any press addressing the reason she made the trip to New York. Granted most people probably don't know why she was in New York because it barely registered as a blip on the media radar, but no I don't think this is the sort of press she's looking for. She may very well want to keep popping up on the national stage, but you'd have to believe some truly dastardly things about her character to suggest that she's willing to to have things centered around her daughters imagined or real sexual indiscretions to do so.

Letterman on the other hand saw another host take over Leno's spot and saw his own ratings come in second to O'Brien. I don't think he minded a bit making crass remarks and suggestions about someone else's child for his own rating gain. I find it interesting if not telling that on a previous top 10 Sara Palin based list when her husband was mentioned his name was specifically included ("her husband, Todd") when she only has one husband, yet when it comes to fictitiously placing her daughter in at a place and time she wasn't in, the wording didn't bother to specify. Good way to insinuate something incendiary and then later retract it claiming you meant something different... all the while getting a lot of attention focused on your show.

So where did the whole deal start? Who stands to gain the most in contrast to the amount of grief it caused them? It sure as hell wasn't Palin on either count.

[Haylo]

If Palin hadn't griped about it, very few people would have made any notice of it. I watch Letterman every night, I heard the joke and moved on. It didn't even stick with me. The people that put the spotlight on the comments are the Palins, period. They thought that everyone would rally to their side and demand justice on their behalf, but it didn't happen like that. Instead Dave's ratings are jumping and people are laughing at Palin, again.

[Jay]

Gypsiyee -
Does sleeping with a man out of wedlock make you easy or a slut? Does pregnancy out of wedlock automatically do the same thing? This is to the best of my knowledge the only basis for what few have said but many apparently believe about Bristol Palin. I'm quite sure Sarah Palin doesn't view Bristol in that light, I'm willing to bet she doesn't believe her be so easy that she could be talked into sex in the time it takes to play 6 or 7 innings of a baseball game. Given that she doesn't view her daughter as some tramp I think it's logical that she didn't make an immediate connection as to who Letterman meant by "daughter" given that Bristol wasn't even at the event Letterman was talking about. Now if both Bristol and Willow had been at the game I could see your point, but that isn't the case. I guess I can see how you can make the connection to the daughter that wasn't there in lieu of the one who was if you believe Bristol to be some promiscuous tramp, but given that I have two sisters who both got pregnant outside of wedlock at about that same age I don't tend to view young unwed mothers in that light.

As far as it being an issue because of her stance on sexual education, you are a victim of a lie told so many times that it's nearly been accepted as absolute truth (not surprising since there are a great many surrounding Palin). While she supports abstinence until marriage types of programs, in 2006 during a debate in Alaska she stated:

I’m pro-contraception, and I think kids who may not hear about it at home should hear about it in other avenues

Hmm go figure, tell your kids to wait until marriage, but also make them aware of ways to protect themselves should they not heed your advice, sounds like the approach many here advocate. Is it 100 percent effective? Obviously not, but kids do stupid things all the time and often don't heed the advice of their parents. It doesn't make parents bad parents, and it doesn't make those kids anything beyond someone who made a bad decision.

do you honestly think this would be big news if it was anyone but the political attention whore who has nothing else to go on? do you seriously think that David Letterman was going out of his way to insinuate rape involving her 14 year old?

I certainly don't think Palin would prefer press on this overshadowing any press addressing the reason she made the trip to New York. Granted most people probably don't know why she was in New York because it barely registered as a blip on the media radar, but no I don't think this is the sort of press she's looking for. She may very well want to keep popping up on the national stage, but you'd have to believe some truly dastardly things about her character to suggest that she's willing to to have things centered around her daughters imagined or real sexual indiscretions to do so.

Letterman on the other hand saw another host take over Leno's spot and saw his own ratings come in second to O'Brien. I don't think he minded a bit making crass remarks and suggestions about someone else's child for his own rating gain. I find it interesting if not telling that on a previous top 10 Sara Palin based list when her husband was mentioned his name was specifically included ("her husband, Todd") when she only has one husband, yet when it comes to fictitiously placing her daughter in at a place and time she wasn't in, the wording didn't bother to specify. Good way to insinuate something incendiary and then later retract it claiming you meant something different... all the while getting a lot of attention focused on your show.

So where did the whole deal start? Who stands to gain the most in contrast to the amount of grief it caused them? It sure as hell wasn't Palin on either count.

Wow really dude? I may have overestimated you.

First off, I don't think half of this country even knows that Sarah Palin has other kids. All they know in summary is that she's kinda milfish, was in beauty pageants and promotes abstinence in lieu of her daughters teenage pregnancy while still supporting her daughter. We don't need to know any information about Bristol's sex life, promiscuity (or lack thereof) and social mating habits to make a joke. She had sex, like a lot of us probably did in our teens. The difference between Bristol and a lot of the young women out there who are sexually active is that they aren't wearing the proof right above their belts. There's your connection. Sarah Palin -> pregnant daughter -> Palin and daughter in New York -> Sarah Palin's daughter got knocked up by Arod lolz. You think Palin and daughter and your first thought is the one that got pregnant. You don't really consider the other kids she has who have had 0 press. Thinking that he actually targeted Willow Palin is just silly. Late night monologues target public figures. Willow Palin is someone I'd never heard of until this whole fiasco. Had he said "hey, Willow Palin got knocked up by arod", it wouldn't have been funny because I'd either have no fucking idea who he's talking about or I would think that Willow is in fact Bristol and probably would have thought to myself "Oh, her name's Willow? I thought her name was Bristol. The more ya know...".

Letterman was second to Leno as well. Crass remarks and crude humor are the name of the game for every late night talk show. This isn't some new plot to boost ratings for Dave. It's something he's ALWAYS done. There's a few things you can attribute to Dave getting a lot of attention focused on his show. 1) It's a good fucking show and 2) Sarah Palin kicking the dead horse and making herself an easy target for his program. His jokes about Sarah and her daughter are just another day at the office. If anything, the only thing that deviated from regularly scheduled programming was his apology, which he would have never given in the first place had she not made a huge public spectacle out of it.

Sarah Palin thrives on press. She probably wants a shot at the presidency in the future or something to that degree. She thought that she could get some good press by showing the world she can be a protective parent and condemning pedophilia but all she's doing is further exposing her kids to the "dangers" that she's "protecting" them from and making herself look bad again. She's making mountains out of molehills and simply showing the world that she knows how to overreact and be an attention whore. Plain and simple.

[Gypsiyee]

Gypsiyee -
Does sleeping with a man out of wedlock make you easy or a slut? Does pregnancy out of wedlock automatically do the same thing? This is to the best of my knowledge the only basis for what few have said but many apparently believe about Bristol Palin. I'm quite sure Sarah Palin doesn't view Bristol in that light, I'm willing to bet she doesn't believe her be so easy that she could be talked into sex in the time it takes to play 6 or 7 innings of a baseball game. Given that she doesn't view her daughter as some tramp I think it's logical that she didn't make an immediate connection as to who Letterman meant by "daughter" given that Bristol wasn't even at the event Letterman was talking about. Now if both Bristol and Willow had been at the game I could see your point, but that isn't the case. I guess I can see how you can make the connection to the daughter that wasn't there in lieu of the one who was if you believe Bristol to be some promiscuous tramp, but given that I have two sisters who both got pregnant outside of wedlock at about that same age I don't tend to view young unwed mothers in that light.

As far as it being an issue because of her stance on sexual education, you are a victim of a lie told so many times that it's nearly been accepted as absolute truth (not surprising since there are a great many surrounding Palin). While she supports abstinence until marriage types of programs, in 2006 during a debate in Alaska she stated:

I’m pro-contraception, and I think kids who may not hear about it at home should hear about it in other avenues

Hmm go figure, tell your kids to wait until marriage, but also make them aware of ways to protect themselves should they not heed your advice, sounds like the approach many here advocate. Is it 100 percent effective? Obviously not, but kids do stupid things all the time and often don't heed the advice of their parents. It doesn't make parents bad parents, and it doesn't make those kids anything beyond someone who made a bad decision.

do you honestly think this would be big news if it was anyone but the political attention whore who has nothing else to go on? do you seriously think that David Letterman was going out of his way to insinuate rape involving her 14 year old?

I certainly don't think Palin would prefer press on this overshadowing any press addressing the reason she made the trip to New York. Granted most people probably don't know why she was in New York because it barely registered as a blip on the media radar, but no I don't think this is the sort of press she's looking for. She may very well want to keep popping up on the national stage, but you'd have to believe some truly dastardly things about her character to suggest that she's willing to to have things centered around her daughters imagined or real sexual indiscretions to do so.

Letterman on the other hand saw another host take over Leno's spot and saw his own ratings come in second to O'Brien. I don't think he minded a bit making crass remarks and suggestions about someone else's child for his own rating gain. I find it interesting if not telling that on a previous top 10 Sara Palin based list when her husband was mentioned his name was specifically included ("her husband, Todd") when she only has one husband, yet when it comes to fictitiously placing her daughter in at a place and time she wasn't in, the wording didn't bother to specify. Good way to insinuate something incendiary and then later retract it claiming you meant something different... all the while getting a lot of attention focused on your show.

So where did the whole deal start? Who stands to gain the most in contrast to the amount of grief it caused them? It sure as hell wasn't Palin on either count.

to make that long of a post, you're seriously looking way too far into a joke made on late night television.

tell me, what's your take on why a political activist relating Michelle Obama to a gorilla isn't as big in the news? You can go the route that it's because she's a grown woman, but considering the joke was clearly about Bristol (also grown), I think the fact that it was a GOP activist vs. a comedian (whose job it is to get laughs, hence the joke) kind of negates that argument.

To stretch this into some serious implication of rape is absolutely ludicrous. These kinds of jokes are made all the time. They aren't malicious in nature or some scheme to attack helpless children - to assume so is to prove the overzealous paranoid nature of what the GOP has morphed into. This is not even a fraction as serious as it's being made out to be.

no, sleeping with someone out of wedlock does not make you a slut. of course, I'm an advocate of sex education and feel that condoms and contraceptives should be readily available if the need is there. I feel that more often than not, teens have babies because they're too scared to approach someone and ask for the methods to prevent it, and abstinence, while obviously the safest method, is completely unrealistic. I had sex ed, and had a mother who told me she wasn't stupid and knew it might happen, but to please come to her if I needed to talk. I was on BC for other reasons, but I didn't have sex til I was 18.

I'm not someone who champions absintence before marriage as Palin does, so I'm not sure where you're going with that argument. I never felt (or said) Bristol was a slut or anything of the sort - the reason her pregnancy was such a big thing was due to her mother's take on the issue. At the same token, if it was someone who was an advocate for sex-ed, there would be an onslaught from the other side saying 'this is what happens when you tell a child it's okay to have sex.' The fact that it's the daughter or someone who is so very socially conservative adds the irony and practice what you preach perspective that fuels the fire. That's just politics.

what I said was that she's in favor of abstinence only education, which are words from her mouth. The quote you provided was a supposed clarification on what she originally said (taken out of context) - she had a month to think on it before she was questioned, and both of these statements were said in her 2006 governer race. Let's tell the whole story now. I'm not a victim of any lie - I'm an intelligent person capable of going out of my way to form opinions based on both sides of the story. The original quote is certainly up for interpretation, and Palin certainly clarified to make it more convenient to voters, but if she gets to use the "you know what I meant" excuse, so does Letterman I reckon?

Running for governor of Alaska in 2006, Sarah Palin filled out a questionnaire that asked if she’d support funding for abstinence-until-marriage programs instead of “explicit sex-education programs, school-based clinics and the distribution of contraceptives in schools?”

Palin wrote, “Yes, the explicit sex-ed programs will not find my support.”

The next month, Palin clarified “explicit,” on a radio debate. Asked if “explicit” programs include those that discuss condoms. Palin said no and called discussions of condoms “relatively benign.”

“Explicit means explicit,” she said. “No, I’m pro-contraception, and I think kids who may not hear about it at home should hear about it in other avenues. So I am not anti-contraception. But, yeah, abstinence is another alternative that should be discussed with kids. I don’t have a problem with that. That doesn’t scare me, so it’s something I would support also.”

you'd have to believe some truly dastardly things about her character

absolutely. this woman exploited her children to the extreme in the race - how she handled her baby with downs certainly made me throw up in my mouth a little. as someone with a downs cousin, it was absolutely despicable to me to see someone come out on the national stage and immediately say "look at my baby with downs! vote for me and I'll champion your cause cuz I got me one of them too!"

it was trashy, tasteless, and an obvious attempt to gain a voting dynamic. I have a very low opinion of the woman and her character and wish she would just disappear back into Alaska. If Letterman should be apologizing for anything, it should be giving her any reason to be in the spotlight again.

[ClakarEQ]

Can this thread die and shit now?
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31377622/ns ... elevision/

[Drem]

Lueyen, shut the fuck up

it's LATE NIGHT TV. dave realizes she has one hot daughter that already fucks around and has a baby and he made a joke about the biggest baseball player in the world right now knockin her up. this has nothing to do with rape. the only thing that has to do with rape is bored Americans that have, quite literally, nothing else to do except to live vicariously through the news and internet. these shows make jokes about obama left and right but nobody ever says anything. but man one little blurb about sexin up a republican daughter/whore and it turns into HOLY STATUTORY RAPE AND RATINGS DESPERATION BATMAN

if you're defending Palin, you're stupid. period. she's doing what we normal non-republican fuckjobs call "grasping at straws". grow up, you bunch of fuckin babies. there are so many more important things happening that are actually serious/important. she's desperately grasping for ratings, if anything, by making a stink out of this. because, basically, no one ever complains about late night jokes. she looks sad doing this

i feel so sorry for Dave that he actually had to succumb and apologize because there are so many stupid cunts out there. at least he made it sarcastic, "i'll try better next time..."

[brinstar]

what i'm wondering is how come no one freaked out and jumped to the defense of latino baseball players

oh right, because only someone so starved for attention would snap at such a thing so hungrily

[Jay]

Can this thread die and shit now?
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31377622/ns ... elevision/

Yeah god forbid we talk about something that hasn't been brought up over and over again like marijuana and your hopeless addiction to it.