Oh look another muslim terrorist on U.S. soil

[Arlos]

If I may interject, I think an argument can be made that it is manifestly EASIER to kill other people, especially several other people within a short time, with a gun than it is with other methods that are also readily available. It is that ease and simplicity that concerns me and others with a similar mindset. While, like I said, I have no interest in banning guns, I do think that there needs to be a balance between the interest of public safety and the right to own whateverinhell you want, based on potential legitimate uses for those things. For example, automatic weapons have no legitimate use besides killing large groups of people at once, and so there is no reasonably compelling reason whatsoever for ordinary civilians to have them, at least outside of a controlled area like a firing range. (someone wants to fire off something like a M2 .50 cal MG at a firing range, be my guest, I'm sure it's shitloads of fun. You do NOT need one for "home defense" however. rofl)

It is NOT a case of "hurrr, gunsrBAD" or any such nonsense. It's a simple fact, though, that not everyone in this world is responsible. Therefore, nowhere near all gun owners will necessarily be responsible gun owners, and so reasonable restrictions to make sure everyone ELSE stays safe are entirely rational. Sure, you can say "just punish the irresponsible ones", but that simply doesn't cover everything. Given the aforementioned caveat of how easy it can be to kill someone with a gun, even by accident, it is entirely possible or probably that an irresponsible owner may seriously harm or kill someone else with their screwups, and simply punishing them after the fact doesn't undo the damage they have done. Better to try, within reason, to prevent that damage in the first place. For example, like I mentioned before, when I was 6 and at my grandparents' place in the country, we had a 30-06 round come through an outer wall and go right through where my 1 year old brother had been 10 seconds before, because some 18 year old kids were shooting without checking what was downrange. What if my brother was still there? He'd be dead, and sure, we'd have prosecuted the hell out of the guy that did it, but that wouldn't have brought my brother back.

So, I am sorry for those that ARE 100% responsible, but since you happen to be human, and not all humans ARE, you have to put up with restrictions necessary to keep everyone else safe from the whackjobs and careless.

-Arlos

[brinstar]

in case you "tl;dr" arlos's post

one of the points he's (probably) trying to make is you can't always tell who is an irresponsible gun owner until it's too late - and the time between "can't tell" and "too late" can be as quick as the blink of an eye

[Evermore]

Take all guns away and people won't stop killing each other. They WILL however, not be able to pull off what this fuckhead did.

unfortunatly Toss, taking the guns away will not stop you from getting them.

this issue is going to continue until the retarded thieves that run this country cant make money on guns. Outlawing guns will have the same effect proabition had. I am a legal and responsible gun owner. Yet if i wanted to I can go 5 blocks from where i work and buy a gun without even getting out of the car. so exacty what do you think banning guns will do? why is it lawmakers and generaaly anyone with an opinion ignores this fact? ban the gun. so what.


Oh arlos, go to your local automotive speed shop and buy 1 Gal of Nitromethane gas. then goto your local lowes or garden store and purchase a bag of nitrate based fertilizer. mix them in roughly 3 to 1 ratio until it forms a plastic. guess what you just made. If you really dont want to be bothered. just soak the fertalizer bag in pump gas and attach a cigarette timer. guns are just the current tool of choice.

[Spazz]

Oh arlos, go to your local automotive speed shop and buy 1 Gal of Nitromethane gas

All I can think of is Vin Diesel saying only pussies run nitrometh when I read that.
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