Liberals rocked in Canada..

[Lyion]

Wow, something I never thought I'd see.

The NDP and Tories both more popular.

In all seriousness, Harper has been good economically for Canada and they're smart to retain him. It's one reason Canada has weathered this period better than England or America.

It should be interesting ithere with all the new MPs and fresh faces.

[Zanchief]

In all seriousness, Harper has been good economically for Canada and they're smart to retain him. It's one reason Canada has weathered this period better than England or America.

Incorrect statement. He's spent his way out of the recession just like any Liberal government would have with the surplus obtain from years under Chretien and Martin. Yours is the opinion of most people who gave this moron who doesn't even understand the basics of statistics, a majority government though. This is what they want. I think it might be more then they bargained for though.

My riding went Liberal. I voted Liberal although I usually throw my support to either the NDP or Green but I was dead set on trying to prevent what happened. It's a sad day for Canadians, and most don't even know it yet.

[Tikker]

I'm not sure what to think just yet to be honest

the biggest thing I hate about our system is that a big majority government can be elected with ~40% of the popular vote

that just doesn't make a lot of sense to me

[Zanchief]

A lot of centrist voters went away from the Liberals and went to the NDP which meant the Conservatives just gobbled up a bunch of extra seats without gaining that much actual ground voting wise. I think there was also a backlash to all the pre-election hype around the NDP that a lot of Liberal voters went right.

There are a few good things to take from the election. I'm excited with what happened in Quebec. It would be nice if the NDP actually emerged as the federal party of choice there. They have similar attitudes on social issues and if Layton promises them more autonomy that could mean the end of the bloc and the separatist movement for a while.

I like that the NDP are moving away from the fringe status they always had and into the center stage. If this is at the cost of the liberal party I can live with that. I think had people really known what kind of legs they had in the election a lot of people would have supported them moreso then the Liberals. I expect the next elections to be pretty heated and we could see an NDP government. It's just a shame we'll have to wait 4 years to even attempt to get this boob out of office.

[Lyion]

I'm not sure what to think just yet to be honest

the biggest thing I hate about our system is that a big majority government can be elected with ~40% of the popular vote

that just doesn't make a lot of sense to me

Really, that number should be lower.

If you make it anymore you get the Coke and Pepsi two party political system crap we have here. Although now it's pretty close to just two parties, which is a damn shame.

He's spent his way out of the recession just like any Liberal government would have with the surplus obtain from years under Chretien and Martin.

Is this a complaint or compliment, since in my opinion it's a good thing?

Yours is the opinion of most people who gave this moron who doesn't even understand the basics of statistics, a majority government though. This is what they want. I think it might be more then they bargained for though.

I wasn't discussing just the budgets, but moreso his policies especially in relation to energy, trade, and commerce. I think he's done well all things considered, but I think many bleeding hearts just consider the Torys the 'enemy', and could care less if they have enacted policies that are good for the nation and prevented a much worse scenario under the global recession.

Not much different from the sides here in America, except you generally can elect different parties. I hope that does not go away.

[Zanchief]

I wasn't discussing just the budgets, but moreso his policies especially in relation to energy, trade, and commerce. I think he's done well all things considered, but I think many bleeding hearts just consider the Torys the 'enemy', and could care less if they have enacted policies that are good for the nation and prevented a much worse scenario under the global recession.

Please name one without looking them up. I know you'll cheat...but I think many staunch conservatives just consider the Tory's the "good guys" and could care if they enacted policies that are terrible for the nation.

Who's to say they weathered a "global" recession? The recession was never as severe here in Canada, mostly due to the policies enacted under the Liberal government for years. We didn't have out of control credit the way you guys did.

[Lyion]

No, I think all politicians are self serving. Tory, Liberal, whatever.

I do think it's funny you keep mentioning Martin and Chretien. I'd be glad to spend 20 minutes writing down all the ways these men were complete incompetent idiots, but you'd disagree simply to disagree.

Harper's trade agreements and pronouncements on energy all make sense to me and are much smarter for national GDP growth.

You are also throwing out hypothetical's in regard to the current global economic situation. Any way you slice it Harper has done a far better job than either Bush or Obama or Cameron. The numbers do not lie, even if you want to attribute it to people long out of office, which is equally wrong.

[Zanchief]

I do think it's funny you keep mentioning Martin and Chretien. I'd be glad to spend 20 minutes writing down all the ways these men were complete incompetent idiots, but you'd disagree simply to disagree.

No, I'd disagree because you are wrong.

You are also throwing out hypothetical's in regard to the current global economic situation. Any way you slice it Harper has done a far better job than either Bush or Obama or Cameron. The numbers do not lie, even if you want to attribute it to people long out of office, which is equally wrong.

The economy is always a hypothetical, Lyion. We elected someone because we assumed this recession was weathered by Harper when all he did was spend his way out of it just like anyone else would have. It’s exactly what Obama did and every conservative in your country killed him for, likely including you, yet Harper does it and you praise him. Who’s opinion is clouded?

[Lyion]

The economy can either be hamstrung, as it was with the massive $1 trillion stimulus in the U.S., or helped via trade, good policy, and smart use of funds as it was in Canada. The Conservative government implemented a $55 billion dollar stimulus at the request of the opposition parties in 2008, it is being eliminated more quickly than expected to $28 billion this fiscal year.

Pro-liberal BS propaganda aside, Canada is coming out of the global recession faster and in better economic shape than any of the other G7 nations precisely because of their Conservative government economic policies

Canada has seen economic gains in the last year and a half, and business confidence has risen and GDP growth is projected at 3.1% for 2011. This is due to those policies from above. More than 500,000 Canadians have jobs now than before the start of the 2008 recession;

Most importantly, Harper is not a two faced spineless worm like Martin and Chretien were. I'm sure you despise the man for it, but he's loyal to his friends and knows who the enemies of freedom are.

[Zanchief]

enemies of freedom

I haven't seen that kind of moronic rhetoric since GWB left office. Thanks for the trip down memory lane.

[Lyion]

I'm here for you, dear.

[Tikker]

Whoa whoa whoa

Back up lyion

You think a smaller percentage of popular vote should be able to dictate federal policy?

[Lyion]

Winning is winning.

I personally want a larger amount of relevant political parties. I think requiring 50% would galvanize groups to join and prevent additional choices and debate for people.

Less choice to me is a bad thing, and the more votes you require, the more political party consolidation a country will probably get.

[Tikker]

I know what you're saying but I don't think that winning 35-40% of the vote should be enough for a majority government

I'm not sure how I'd fix it properly either though.

[brinstar]

Winning is winning.

I personally want a larger amount of relevant political parties. I think requiring 50% would galvanize groups to join and prevent additional choices and debate for people.

Less choice to me is a bad thing, and the more votes you require, the more political party consolidation a country will probably get.

agreed. this is exactly why i insist on voting Green every four years - because i'm voting for what i believe in, not against what i don't