Atkins diet

[Narrock]

i cook for a living, the fuck do you know about food besides what you read out of some book? somebody's just trying to make money off you. and you're playing right into it. how cute. you're too stubborn to have a conversation with about this. go away little faggot

lol so you're poisoning people at your local Denny's with refined sugars, "carmelized" treats, potatoes, bread, pasta, and rice. Grats.

[Drem]

i cook food you couldn't comprehend using ingredients you've never heard of for dishes you can't afford

lol denny's. gtfo white trash

[Narrock]

i cook food you couldn't comprehend using ingredients you've never heard of for dishes you can't afford

lol denny's. gtfo white trash

Denny's just seemed to go along well with your persona. You seem like a short-order fry cook to me.

Anyway... Seriously dude, why do you think you know everything and constantly act like a gigantic douche here on the NT? Are you like that all the time or is it just your obnoxious NT behavior?

[leah]

i understand taking what someone says about something else with a grain of salt, but drem is a legit chef-type person who works in high-class establishments and regularly posts recipes and mouth-watering pictures of things i can't even pronounce. so, when it comes to matters of food, i'm pretty comfortable giving drem's opinion a lot of weight. /shrug

[Spazz]

I like dennys .

[Drem]

Anyway... Seriously dude, why do you think you know everything and constantly act like a gigantic douche here on the NT? Are you like that all the time or is it just your obnoxious NT behavior?

and you don't think this applies to everything you say?

PS thanks leah. too kind <3

[Harrison]

lol this thread is full of fucking rofls

[Narrock]

lol this thread is full of fucking rofls

I agree. The NT is a great source of entertainment.

[Narrock]

i understand taking what someone says about something else with a grain of salt, but drem is a legit chef-type person who works in high-class establishments and regularly posts recipes and mouth-watering pictures of things i can't even pronounce. so, when it comes to matters of food, i'm pretty comfortable giving drem's opinion a lot of weight. /shrug

I've eaten at "high class establishments" that serve shit most people have never heard of... places that make you wear a suit and all that bullshit. That food is no better than "normal fare" and is way overpriced. Who the fuck would want to eat baked Scorpion on a french cracker with brie, goose liver pate, Kirk's Dik Dik ribs, or disgusting slithering creatures from the bottom of the sea or from under a rock? Even if you order something a little more "ordinary" at one of those places you're still gonna pay 75 bucks for a 2"x4" filet mignon, 3 pieces of asparagus drizzled with a hollandaise sauce, and garlic twice-baked mashed potatoes. I work too hard for my money to throw it away on panache, dining with phonies. I could care less if it was Wolfgang Schmuck, Yan, or Emeril cooking it. Knock yourself out if that's your gig.

[Maeya]

in my years of experience i've decided that it just isn't sustainable long-term to cut out large swaths of your diet. it's better to learn how to use food as fuel and practice moderation than to say "welp, i guess i'm not eating starch ever again." it's unrealistic and messes with your body chemistry.

This is wise, in my opinion as a Registered Nurse, if that counts for anything.

I think it's awesome you're taking an interest in your health, and working towards becoming a healthier person. Better eating habits and physical exercise does amazing things for your body, mind and attitude. However, as has been beaten to death, please be very cautious about cutting out any one particular type of food group as your body is designed to run off of a combination of all the different nutrients. Glucose and carbohydrates are absolutely vital to the functioning of your body. Being smarter about how you obtain them is good, blindly cutting out anything labeled as a carbohydrate can be a gamble for your body. I know you say you can add back in some starches during the maintenance phase, but just... be mindful. That's all.

[Drem]

Glucose and carbohydrates are absolutely vital to the functioning of your body. Being smarter about how you obtain them is good, blindly cutting out anything labeled as a carbohydrate can be a gamble for your body

[Narrock]

in my years of experience i've decided that it just isn't sustainable long-term to cut out large swaths of your diet. it's better to learn how to use food as fuel and practice moderation than to say "welp, i guess i'm not eating starch ever again." it's unrealistic and messes with your body chemistry.

This is wise, in my opinion as a Registered Nurse, if that counts for anything.

I think it's awesome you're taking an interest in your health, and working towards becoming a healthier person. Better eating habits and physical exercise does amazing things for your body, mind and attitude. However, as has been beaten to death, please be very cautious about cutting out any one particular type of food group as your body is designed to run off of a combination of all the different nutrients. Glucose and carbohydrates are absolutely vital to the functioning of your body. Being smarter about how you obtain them is good, blindly cutting out anything labeled as a carbohydrate can be a gamble for your body. I know you say you can add back in some starches during the maintenance phase, but just... be mindful. That's all.

Yup, I know that and that's why I get my carbs from vegetables. Not eating pasta, potatoes, rice or bread doesn't negatively affect any part of the body. I just cut out the starchy carbs and replaced them with healthy carbs that you get in salad with mixed greens and other veggies. But try telling that to Doctor Drem and you might as well just

[Drem]

i'm not trying to be a doctor dumbass. you're just missing out on thousands of years of good food. not really my problem, just seems stupid to me. troll

[Narrock]

i'm not trying to be a doctor dumbass. you're just missing out on thousands of years of good food. not really my problem, just seems stupid to me. troll

You're the only troll in this discussion. Keep commenting ignorantly, and keep proving it.

[Drem]

hahahahahaha take a nutrition course and get back to me. your opinion means absolutely nothing. keep reading your fiction, like atkins diet and the bible, sheep

[Narrock]

Nutrition facts is where I get my info. I guarantee you don't need starchy carbs, and that starchy carbs have mostly negative effects on your internal organs and blood. But you can go ahead and keep stuffing your fingers in your ears saying la la la la la.... It's very bizarre behavior on your part and its mind-boggling how ignorant you're being about this issue. Why do you think the FDA is changing the traditional food pyramid? lol. It's because the old food pyramid was leading to obesity, heart disease, diabetes, etc etc etc. There's new science out there dude... Embrace it, don't reject it. But hey, its your life.

[Gypsiyee]

carbs are pretty much your basic energy building block, and to say that they're not necessary is why the atkins diet is so dangerous: misinformation.

almost any reputable scientific study you find will flat out state that carbohydrates should be the primary source (60% or so) of your daily caloric intake.

low GI, complex carbs serve so many purposes in a well rounded diet.. there are a number of essential vitamins and minerals critical to all parts of your body--not just your wasteline--that are exclusive to carbohydrate rich foods. there's a reason that every nutritionist and scientific study in the history of history show an incorporated balance of the three macronutrients (protein, carbs, fat) and not just a surplus of one of them. while it's great that you've lost weight and you're happy, you can't just go on a diet for a couple months and then presume to have more knowledge than decades of research.

I'm telling you, good on you for looking and feeling great but for the sake of your health, tread lightly. Swearing off carbs as unnecessary is dangerous in the long term.

you mention the new food pyramid, and if you're going to use that in your argument you should probably also recognize that even in the new pyramid, protein accounts for roughly half the amount of a combination of grains and fruit should.

don't mistake simple carbs for complex or lump them into the same group because then you'd be equating a vitamin rich sweet potato to a candy bar and that's nonsense.

complex carbs in the correct portions are *not* a contributor to widespread obesity.

[Narrock]

carbs are pretty much your basic energy building block, and to say that they're not necessary is why the atkins diet is so dangerous: misinformation.

almost any reputable scientific study you find will flat out state that carbohydrates should be the primary source (60% or so) of your daily caloric intake.

low GI, complex carbs serve so many purposes in a well rounded diet.. there are a number of essential vitamins and minerals critical to all parts of your body--not just your wasteline--that are exclusive to carbohydrate rich foods. there's a reason that every nutritionist and scientific study in the history of history show an incorporated balance of the three macronutrients (protein, carbs, fat) and not just a surplus of one of them. while it's great that you've lost weight and you're happy, you can't just go on a diet for a couple months and then presume to have more knowledge than decades of research.

I'm telling you, good on you for looking and feeling great but for the sake of your health, tread lightly. Swearing off carbs as unnecessary is dangerous in the long term.

you mention the new food pyramid, and if you're going to use that in your argument you should probably also recognize that even in the new pyramid, protein accounts for roughly half the amount of a combination of grains and fruit should.

don't mistake simple carbs for complex or lump them into the same group because then you'd be equating a vitamin rich sweet potato to a candy bar and that's nonsense.

complex carbs in the correct portions are *not* a contributor to widespread obesity.

Holy shit! Do you people not read??????? For the tenth time, STARCHY carbs are very bad for you. That's an iNDISPUTABLE FACT!!!!! Healthy carbs that your body NEEDS comes from VEGETABLES. Cutting out bread (and I don't care if its whole grain/multi grain blah blah blah), brown rice, whole wheat pancakes, multi grain pasta, and ANY kind of potato is all bad for your body. Some of those things have SOME nutritional value, but the negatives FAR outweigh the positives. Starchy carbs convert to sugar in the body, raising your glycemic index, forces your body to produce more insulin, the sugars from those starchy carbs converts to stored fat in the body, and you get tired after eating starchy carbs. Holy shit, you people would look up at the blue sky and argue that it's overcast. I tell you what... Eat what the fuck you want. I don't give a shit anymore. This is absolutely ridiculous.

[Gypsiyee]

I'm not sure if you know what a starchy carb is if you're getting all up in arms about what I said. Healthy low GI carbohydrates include a number of "starchy carbs": beans, legumes, rice, whole grains, whole wheat.. those are all starchy carbs. I think you're getting the phrase 'starchy carbs' confused with 'simple carbs.'

And if you think proper portions of whole grains are bad for you, then it's pretty clear that you've been misinformed.

[Narrock]

I'm not sure if you know what a starchy carb is if you're getting all up in arms about what I said. Healthy low GI carbohydrates include a number of "starchy carbs": beans, legumes, rice, whole grains, whole wheat.. those are all starchy carbs. I think you're getting the phrase 'starchy carbs' confused with 'simple carbs.'

And if you think proper portions of whole grains are bad for you, then it's pretty clear that you've been misinformed.

I'm not misinformed about anything. Would you like me to link a hundred + sites that validate my claims? I can do that, but I'd rather you just Google it yourself. I'm just trying to help people live a healthier lifestyle. Again, for the dozenth time... Starchy carbs (maybe I should say "such as") bread, pasta, rice, and potatoes are what will have negative health effects on your body. Cut those out and you will be healthier, look better, and feel better, shed fat, and probably live longer. I'm just going to copy n paste this to all subsequent posts until it finally sinks in and the synapses in peoples brains finally make a connection.

[vonkaar]

The song of Mindia.

I'm not misinformed about anything.

I know everything about the bible.

Would you like me to link a hundred + sites that validate my claims?

Would you like me to show you a hundred + verses that validate my bigotry?

I can do that, but I'd rather you just Google it yourself.

They don't actually exist, except in my twisted world.

I'm just trying to help people live a healthier lifestyle.

I think you are all going to burn in hell if you don't repent.

Again, for the dozenth time... Starchy carbs (maybe I should say "such as") bread, pasta, rice blahblahblahblah.

Blahblah abortion, blahblah death penalty, blahblah marijuana, blahblah liberal media, blahblah niggers


Second verse, same as the first.

[Gypsiyee]

I'm not sure if you know what a starchy carb is if you're getting all up in arms about what I said. Healthy low GI carbohydrates include a number of "starchy carbs": beans, legumes, rice, whole grains, whole wheat.. those are all starchy carbs. I think you're getting the phrase 'starchy carbs' confused with 'simple carbs.'

And if you think proper portions of whole grains are bad for you, then it's pretty clear that you've been misinformed.

I'm not misinformed about anything. Would you like me to link a hundred + sites that validate my claims? I can do that, but I'd rather you just Google it yourself. I'm just trying to help people live a healthier lifestyle. Again, for the dozenth time... Starchy carbs (maybe I should say "such as") bread, pasta, rice, and potatoes are what will have negative health effects on your body. Cut those out and you will be healthier, look better, and feel better, shed fat, and probably live longer. I'm just going to copy n paste this to all subsequent posts until it finally sinks in and the synapses in peoples brains finally make a connection.

actually, yes--I'd love you to. please link me 100+ reputable sites (ie, not Atkins or other low carb fad diet sites or their marketing counterparts) that show decades of scientific research touting how complex carbohydrates are bad for you and should not be a part of a balanced diet. Bonus points if you can give me a food pyramid endorsed by the FDA that advises cutting carbohydrates out of your diet.

It doesn't matter how many times you re-word what a starchy carb is. You're still confusing simple carbs for starchy carbs. Using vague terms such as bread, potatoes, pasta, etc, and saying that all of them are bad for you is an inaccurate statement. Overly processed versions that have stripped them of their nutrients aren't the best, that's true. Products that leave the grain intact, thereby maintaining the structure of the vitamins and fiber that lie within are both good for you and contain essential nutrients for a healthy lifestyle.

Skinny does not mean healthy. I started this conversation with you out of genuine concern and a simple word of caution, but since you're going the route of typical Mindia hemming and hawing like a donkey ignoring logic, reason, and black and white evidence, have at your fad diet. In a year or two, you'll be back at your start weight and no healthier than when you began.

[leah]

i'm incredibly frustrated by this thread, so much so that i'm having a hard time articulating. hum.

[leah]

i mean, look: http://www.choosemyplate.gov/

grains! right there, on the plate!

and this is coming from someone who spent nearly two years on the atkins train, and quite successfully. the truth is it's unsustainable, unrealistic, and unnecessary to cut out non-vegetable carbs. just learn your portions; buy whole, unprocessed foods--whole grains, lean meat, lots of fruits and veggies; and get your ass to the gym. ta-da.

[Maeya]

I have an almost unhealthy love of sweet potatoes. They're so delicious! I could eat a baked sweet potato every day and die happy