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Postby Lyion » Sat Nov 28, 2015 7:59 am

Great story about some of the problems with Gitmo and our 'war on terror' and about Hajji Ghalib who is an amazing fellow.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/28/world ... &smtyp=cur
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Re: Excellent Article

Postby Lyion » Sun Dec 06, 2015 9:59 am

On this vein, I think the cultural problem is also under appreciated in discussions. You really can't compare Christianity, Hinduism, Buddhism, etc to the mentality of 'us vs them' that seems to permeate. I would like to believe the answer is education, but again the people who tend to be radicalized tend to be the most educated, and believe freedom and human rights are secondary to Islam. There are crazies in every religion, and it's disturbing people want use red herrings in comparison, but these statistics are the root cause of why we have so many issues.


Pew Research (2013):
Only 57% of Muslims worldwide disapprove of al-Qaeda.
Only 51% disapprove of the Taliban.
13% support both groups and 1 in 4 refuse to say.
http://www.pewglobal.org/2013/09/10/mus ... st-groups/

Wenzel Strategies (2012):
58% of Muslim-Americans believe criticism of Islam or Muhammad is not protected free speech under the First Amendment.
45% believe mockers of Islam should face criminal charges (38% said they should not).
12% of Muslim-Americans believe blaspheming Islam should be punishable by death.
43% of Muslim-Americans believe people of other faiths have no right to evangelize Muslims.
32% of Muslims in America believe that Sharia should be the supreme law of the land.
http://www.andrewbostom.org/blog/2012/1 ... expression

ICM Poll:
40% of British Muslims want Sharia in the UK
20% of British Muslims sympathize with 7/7 bombers
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/ ... in-UK.html

Pew Research (2010):
82% of Egyptian Muslims favor stoning adulterers
70% of Jordanian Muslims favor stoning adulterers
42% of Indonesian Muslims favor stoning adulterers
82% of Pakistanis favor stoning adulterers
56% of Nigerian Muslims favor stoning adulterers
http://pewglobal.org/2010/12/02/muslims ... hezbollah/

Pew Global (2006)
68% of Palestinian Muslims say suicide attacks against civilians in defense of Islam are justified.
43% of Nigerian Muslims say suicide attacks against civilians in defense of Islam are justified.
38% of Lebanese Muslims say suicide attacks against civilians in defense of Islam are justified.
15% of Egyptian Muslims say suicide attacks against civilians in defense of Islam are justified.
http://cnsnews.com/node/53865

World Public Opinion (2009):
61% of Egyptians approve of attacks on Americans
32% of Indonesians approve of attacks on Americans
41% of Pakistanis approve of attacks on Americans
38% of Moroccans approve of attacks on Americans
62% of Jordanians approve of some or most groups that attack Americans (21% oppose)
42% of Turks approve of some or most groups that attack Americans (45% oppose)
http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/ ... 09_rpt.pdf

NOP Research:
62% percent of British Muslims say freedom of speech shouldn't be protected
1 in 4 British Muslims say 7/7 bombings were justified
78% of British Muslims support punishing the publishers of Muhammad cartoons
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/08/ ... 2011-04-06

People Press Surveys:
31% of Turks support suicide attacks against Westerners in Iraq.
http://www.people-press.org/2004/03/16/ ... -iraq-war/

Belgian HLN:
16% of young Muslims in Belgium state terrorism is "acceptable".
http://www.hln.be/hln/nl/1275/Islam/art ... ens-vindt- terrorisme-aanvaardbaar.dhtml

ICM Poll:
25% of British Muslims disagree that a Muslim has an obligation to report terrorists to police.
http://www.icmresearch.co.uk/reviews/20 ... %20Muslims%2 0Nov04.asp

Pew Research (2007):
26% of younger Muslims in America believe suicide bombings are justified.
35% of young Muslims in Britain believe suicide bombings are justified (24% overall).
42% of young Muslims in France believe suicide bombings are justified (35% overall).
22% of young Muslims in Germany believe suicide bombings are justified (13% overall).
29% of young Muslims in Spain believe suicide bombings are justified (25% overall).

http://www.pewresearch.org/files/old-as ... df#page=60

Al-Jazeera (2006):
49.9% of Muslims polled support Osama bin Laden
http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Osama_bin_Laden

Populus Poll (2006):
16% of British Muslims believe suicide attacks against Israelis are justified.
37% believe Jews in Britain are a "legitimate target".
http://www.populuslimited.com/pdf/2006_02_07_times.pdf
http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2005/07 ... h-islamist

GfK NOP:
28% of British Muslims want Britain to be an Islamic state
http://www.civitas.org.uk/pdf/ShariaLaw ... ForAll.pdf

NOP Research:
68% of British Muslims support the arrest and prosecution of anyone who insults Islam;
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/08/ ... 2011-04-06

MacDonald Laurier Institute:
62% of Muslims want Sharia in Canada (15% say make it mandatory)
35% of Canadian Muslims would not repudiate al-Qaeda
http://www.torontosun.com/2011/11/01/st ... -in-canada
http://www.macdonaldlaurier.ca/much-goo ... im-public- opinion-in-canada/

al-Arabiya:
36% of Arabs polled said the 9/11 attacks were morally justified; 38% disagreed;
26% Unsure
http://www.alarabiya.net/articles/2011/ ... 66274.html

Gallup:
38.6% of Muslims believe 9/11 attacks were justified (7% "fully", 6.5% "mostly", 23.1% "partially")
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Re: Excellent Article

Postby Spazz » Sun Dec 06, 2015 2:42 pm

About all those statistics

whoa bruh dont you know bout religion of peace... growing pains the crusades and that they hate us cuz were over there. Most of them are moderates who dont have those crazy ideas or so I have been told

Im with Bill Maher and Sam harris that shit is not compatible with liberal values.

i think a lot of americans kid themselves about islam cuz the dude at the gas station or college class is cool with em. Hes cool cuz hes a minority and the shit he thinks doesnt hold a lot of weight. If you want to see what islam is really about take a look at the countries where they are a majority.
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