2016 elections.

[brinstar]

except HRC was neither a progressive nor a socialist? though i have long known better than to expect you to know what those words actually mean

also, like obama, she had no plans to come take yer precious precious gunz

anyway i hope our new potus calms the fuck down with all that hate he spewed during the primary and learns how to be a decent leader

i mean, i'm preparing for the opposite, but i can still hope anyway

[Narrock]

except HRC was neither a progressive nor a socialist? though i have long known better than to expect you to know what those words actually mean

also, like obama, she had no plans to come take yer precious precious gunz

anyway i hope our new potus calms the fuck down with all that hate he spewed during the primary and learns how to be a decent leader

i mean, i'm preparing for the opposite, but i can still hope anyway

C'mon Brin... you KNOW better than to accuse me of not knowing what progressiveism or socialism is. You can present facts which clearly show that Bernie was MORE of a progressive socialist than HRC is, and you'll get no argument from me, but she is definitely a socialist and progressive by definition.

HRC's stance on gun control is a direct infringement on the 2A, under the guise of "common sense gun legislation" that her and her ilk came up with over the years, and you can bet that cackling old whore wants to create even MORE hardships for us. All those laws over the years in regards to "common sense gun legislation" are nothing but illegal knee jerk reactions to shootings, and not one single piece of legislation did a damn thing to curb gun violence, accidental discharges, etc. All it did was to punish gun-owning lawful citizens... trigger locks, reduced-capacity magazines, requiring a special tool to remove a magazine, background checks for ammo, etc etc etc... ALL those are infringements to the 2A. I'd agree to no fully-automatic rifles, no open carry into schools, airports, hospitals, banks, etc. a criminal background check (which should take 1 minute, not 10 days). Fuck off with all the other laws.

[brinstar]

what other laws? name ten federal gun control laws that passed in the last 8 years. name five. go ahead.

you howler monkeys got all ginned up by a bunch of slick lobbyists who picked you as an easy mark, and then you just kept proving them right over and over and over again

jesus christ stop pretending there was EVER any sort of massive obama-led anti-2A conspiracy and just admit you got fleeced by a bunch of marketing ghouls who wanted vacation homes

[Arlos]

What's the first results of Trump's victory? A tidal wave of hate crimes across the nation.

Check out Shaun King's twitter (https://twitter.com/ShaunKing), he's been cataloguing these kind of incidents. Some Examples:

1) USPS employee, in uniform, gassing up his mail truck, screaming at a Hispanic individual also gassing his car, "Go back to your country! This is Trump Land. You ain't getting your check no more".
2) A gay couple had a note left on the windshield of their car parked in front of their home saying, "Can't wait until your 'marriage' is overturned by a real president. Gay families = burn in hell. #Trump2016 #Repent #GodBless".
3) Right here in Napa Valley, at a gas station, a white man jumped out of his pickup truck, ran up to an Asian woman filling her tank, and screamed at her, "We won. Now get the fuck out of my country".
4) High school students in Pennsylvania were marching down the school hallways chanting "Cotton Picker, You're a nigger, heil Hitler"
5) In Bloomington, Indiana, a black woman merely crossing the street had some white men in a truck speed up to her, lower their windows, and shout at her: "Fuck you, nigger bitch. Trump is going to deport you back to Africa"

There are dozens more like this, and we're only 2 days post-election. Many of those incidents are physically sickening. And, are just what those of us NOT drinking the Trump Kool-Aid were saying would happen if he won. I mean, he got hardcore backing from the KKK and other white supremacist groups based on what he was saying and the positions he was taking. I am not in the least surprised this kind of crap is happening now that he won.

I'm finding I am more and more looking with favor on the campaign for California to do a #CalExit. In 2018, a group is putting a ballot measure up for vote that states that if it passes, the state will work on seceding from the US and becoming its own independent nation. Website here: http://www.yescalifornia.org/

Yes, it's an extreme response, but CA is hated by large swathes of the country as it is, and viewed basically as SatanLand. We also really don't have much of anything in common with any states to the east of us, until maybe New England. Plus, all by itself, California would be the world's 6th largest economy by GDP, ahead of both Russia and France. Plus, we send $15-20 billion a year out in federal taxes than comes back in, so we're directly subsidizing those red states that hate us. Maybe we could convince Oregon and Washington to join us in the exodus, and either form a new nation comprising the entire west coast (call it "Ecotopia" or something), or maybe even have the states jointly petition Canada to be combined together and join Canada as a new province. Temperamentally, all 3 west coast states have FAR more in common with Canada than we do with places like Kansas, Alabama, etc. So yeah, given the hard racist turn the US is taking post-Trump, along with all the other terribly dire stuff we will no doubt see over the next 4 years, I'd probably even vote yes on this.

[Minrott]

Oh the irony.

I don't want to gloat, as Trump wasn't my guy. But the irony and schadenfreude is overwhelmingly delicious I have to admit.


It is interesting though Arlos, how you post supposed accounts from a trustworthy source like Shaun King, while ignoring actual video accounts of riots, property damage and this.

Remind me again which occasion it was that the Tea Party, or whatever conservative boogeyman faction, destroyed other people's property, attacked police, and generally threw a temper tantrum that blocked traffic and left devastation in it's wake? That phenomenon seems to be an entirely leftist one.

When we feel like we've been marginalized and talked down to and patronized and forgotten by the coasts, we typically voice our opinion as loudly as we can at the ballot box.

But I know how you feel, I can empathize. I've been there. I think Calexit is a grand idea for a number of reasons, least of which is removing those 55 electoral votes from ever having an impact on the rest of us, and I agree wholeheartedly with your assessment that you and your coastal fellows have nothing in common with the rest of the nation. I am curious what your plan for water would be, but you're all real independent go-getters and doers so I'm sure you'll come up with something.

Maybe we can work out a trade with Trudoeau. California, Washington and Oregon for Alberta and Saskatchewan.

Oh, and please feel free to continue the public temper tantrum. Nothing brings us flyover folks to the polls like being lectured on our privilege by people who react like that to everything they perceive as not going their way.

[Minrott]

what other laws? name ten federal gun control laws that passed in the last 8 years. name five. go ahead.

you howler monkeys got all ginned up by a bunch of slick lobbyists who picked you as an easy mark, and then you just kept proving them right over and over and over again

jesus christ stop pretending there was EVER any sort of massive obama-led anti-2A conspiracy and just admit you got fleeced by a bunch of marketing ghouls who wanted vacation homes

I know this is hard for you to understand, because there are people like you on both sides. Your position is essentially, "omg guys, Bush didn't execute any gays so really what's the big deal lulz."

I get it, because you don't care about a right, anything less than the nuclear option of eliminating it completely doesn't peg your give a fuck meter, and it's easy for you to brush it aside as just lobbyists and chicken little hyperbole.

What you fail to understand in your overly simplistic view of the issue, is that it's been an 80 year struggle for those of us who care about the RKBA in earnest. It began with a full out assault on our rights by FDR, it was affirmed by his stacked SCOTUS, it was then further encroached upon by LBJ, and whittled away at by every sitting president after Nixon, including Reagan.

The one shining light the RKBA has had in the last 80 years was Heller and McDonald. And while Roe is the lefts calling cry to honor precedent, Clinton's respect for stare decisis is questionable at best. Wikileaks proved it to us. There was an agenda, and it was to replace Scalia and seek to have Heller overturned. States already ignore McDonald without repudiation. Obama's executive did nothing to enforce the SCOTUS decisions that affirmed the right and incorporated it to the states. That inaction in itself is an affront to our rights. In addition:

1- Executive action to change the way the NFTR had been handled by the BATFE for 30 years
2- Stopped the appeals process to NICS denials. There is no legal avenue for a legal gun owner wrongly denied by the NICS system to petition for relief.
3- Banned the importation of 7n6 ammunition using a very loose interpretation of the law banning "armor piercing" ammunition for handguns. The ammunition neither fits the technical definition outlined by the law, nor is it handgun ammunition.
4- Attempted to ban M855 ammunition using the same broken logic, but was stopped by a flood of petitions to Congress.
5- Banned the importation of barrels manufactured outside of the US.
6- Refused to allow the importation of Garand and 1911 handguns originally manufactured here and given to South Korea, by the CMP.
7- Was caught red handed using the BATFE as a political instrument, giving guns to Mexican cartels in order to stir up political support for further control initiatives.
8- Executive order changing the way the BATFE is to interpret "make" and "manufacture" essentially killing an entire industry of light gunsmithing like refinishing of firearms.
9- Used ITAR to further hurt the gunsmithing industry by requiring gunsmiths to pay for ITAR registration whether they do international business or not.

Chip, chip, chip, for 80 years. And now, with the one single constructionist justice dead, Hillary Clinton poised to appoint someone who makes Sotomayor look like Thomas in comparison, a proclaimed agenda to overturn Heller, a 30 year political history of constant attack on the RKBA, and you wonder why we, as gun owners, thought this was a big deal?

[Durothil Skyreaver]

Maybe we can work out a trade with Trudeau. California, Washington and Oregon for Alberta and Saskatchewan.

Fuck that. I'd rather be dead.

[Drem]

Hey now, did you see the Oregon voting map? It was almost entirely red except Eugene and Portland. I doubt this state would ever secede. I live in the bluest bluey blue part and the reaction to this has been really depressing. While a few have accepted our new orange overlord, most are irrationally lashing out. The Clinton supporters are being far worse than the Trump supporters over here. Huge riot in Portland after over 100 self-described anarchist hijacked a protest and started smashing windows and cars and attacking bystanders. The mayor didn't even respond until like 20 minutes ago. And there's supposedly another "protest" planned for tonight. It's embarassing

That's not to say there aren't massive 4x4s rolling coal and flying huge American flags, because that's here too, but yeah this whole election has been crazy. The whole divide and conquer thing looks like it's happening. We're definitely more divided than we ever have been right now

Saddest part about it are the clueless children and all the hate going around in elementary schools right now. My teacher friends are having a rough time. Especially the hispanic ones. It's really fucked up

I am not looking forward to the first incidence of needless racism that my wife and child are sure to face because of the color of their skin

[brinstar]

stuff

back up a sec - fast and furious started under bush 43, something molonbaters love to forget

but anyway, get ready to read something you probably didn't expect to read in a brinstar post: you are right. you are right in one blindingly unavoidable way: you HAVE been marginalized and talked down to and patronized and forgotten by the coasts. clinton (which, let me remind you, was NOT my candidate) and her ruling kind's entire neoliberalist body of policy and ideology - that over the last 40 years gradually displaced and cast out the blood-and-soil populism and the working-class ground-up consensus-building which once made the democratic party great - HAVE left you in the dust. i don't know whether they decided it was safe to take the working-class white vote for granted, whether the shifting demographic calculus told them they could get by without it, or whether they thought building an entire campaign on pointing out the real actual awfulness of america's most famous reality TV star would work despite the incontrovertible twin pillars of evidence that he was america's most famous reality TV star and she its least favorite politician. could be any one of those, could be any combination of the three. i myself don't know, because they were so paranoid and insular that they made sure they didn't let those of us who still hold those old-fashioned small-d democratic values in our hearts close enough to the inner sanctum to find out.

but the signs were there all along. sanders posted huge upset wins in wisconsin and michigan (and indiana) during the primary, thanks in part to the way he spoke TO the dwindling middle class, not OVER it the way she did. she lost those states in the primary, and never campaigned there again. the coastal liberal arrogance and the marginalization you speak of had them convinced she didn't need to. then they went red, and establishment democrats gasped in disbelief. how could this happen?!? wake the fuck up, limousine liberals: in an election where the main driving narrative was the distrust of washington insiders and record loathing for politicians, you put your swollen fingers on the scale and tipped it toward nominating the ultimate washington insider politician over the one guy capable of addressing the anguish permeating non-urban american communities. the ultimate act of tribalism over populism. we tried to tell them all along this would happen, but they called us misogynists and anarchists and shoved us and tripped us and told us to "get over it" and "get in line" and "you don't know what you're talking about." they pushed us out so hard that when it came time to GOTV they didn't have enough workhorses in the stable to get it done.

i'm worried about what trump's america might turn out to be. there have already been dozens (if not hundreds) of hate crimes, and we're not even a week past the election. the actual KKK (who endorsed our incoming POTUS) is holding a celebratory parade in north carolina. we are about to inaugurate a president who promised to create a muslim registry, starve the federal government, roll back civil protections, and not only sue the press but make it easier to sue the press. it might be fair of you to criticize me for not caring about a right i don't feel the need to exercise, but you're fooling yourself if you think the same can't happen between now and 2020 with the rights YOU don't think are important enough to use. beware.

[Spazz]

Dont get me wrong I dont like the fact that trump won but I cannot honestly say that the DNC wasnt asking for that ass kicking. Hopefully they get it together but that fact that I am seeing sexism and racism blamed for the loss worries me that the democrats arent learning the lesson.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLG9g7BcjKs

[Narrock]

I find it interesting that Trump and Bernie both publicly pleaded with the protesters to stop the violence, yet not a peep from obama or hillary. :-(

[Narrock]

Bernie on Trump winning the presidency:

Donald Trump tapped into the anger of a declining middle class that is sick and tired of establishment economics, establishment politics, and the establishment media. People are tired of working longer hours for lower wages, of seeing decent paying jobs go to China and other low-wage countries, of billionaires not paying any federal income taxes, and of not being able to afford a college education for their kids — all while the very rich become much richer. To the degree that Mr. Trump is serious about pursuing policies that improve the lives of working families in this country, I and other progressives are prepared to work with him. To the degree that he pursues racist, sexist, xenophobic, and anti-environment policies, we will vigorously oppose him.”

Awesome statement for 95% of it, but he lost me on his last sentence.... There is absolutely ZERO evidence of Trump being a racist. If there was any evidence of racism between Trump or Hillary, it was Hillary. HRC's mentor and dear friend was Senator Byrd, a well-known former grand wizard of the Ku Klux Klan. Trump has disavowed the KKK MULTIPLE times, and also disavowed and rejected their endorsement of him. The left wing has spun these facts completely. It's disgusting how dishonest and corrupt the left wing media is.

Sexist? Where? Trump has appointed many minorities and women to management positions within his organization. Trump respects women. If this charge of "sexism" is stemming from some locker room banter he engaged in about a dozen years ago... GIVE ME A FUCKING BREAK.

Xenophobic? Where is the evidence of THAT ridiculous claim? If by now people don't realize that there's a MAJOR difference between LEGAL and ILLEGAL immigration then they are unfortunately, irreversibly stupid. Carry on with that border wall Mr. President, because it's needed, and wanted, by most Americans. As far as wanting to halt the influx of Syrian refugees... again, that has ZERO to do with "Xenophobia." All you have to do is take a good look at Germany and Sweden to understand what's been happening in those countries, and we have the power NOW to stop it BEFORE it becomes a problem here. Angela Merkel has recently stated that she's "sorry" she admitted so many refugees in. Too late bitch... you have forever changed the landscape of Germany, and it's only a matter of time before the muslims take over completely. It's VITAL to the safety of our citizens to enact extreme vetting of these refugees. OUR SAFETY is a greater concern than being falsely accused of "Xenophobia." You need to wake the fuck up Bernie.

Anti-environment? Bernie, please. Science has proven inconvenient facts, and presented them to us:

"Man-made global warming", "man-made global climate change," and "man-made severe weather" are all fictitious concepts and hoaxes perpetrated by criminals whose sole intent was to make millions and billions of dollars off of stupid, gullible, uneducated people. Deep ice samples have been drilled in Antarctica and the Arctic Circle and they PROVE that global warming is cyclical, and that pollution produced by mankind contributes nothing to global warming. In fact, ice deposits on the poles are growing, and are in fact larger than they ever have been. So, what's the real deal Bernie?

[brinstar]

Awesome statement for 95% of it, but he lost me on his last sentence.... There is absolutely ZERO evidence of Drumpf being a racist. If there was any evidence of racism between Drumpf or Hillary, it was Hillary. HRC's mentor and dear friend was Senator Byrd, a well-known former grand wizard of the Ku Klux Klan. Drumpf has disavowed the KKK MULTIPLE times, and also disavowed and rejected their endorsement of him. The left wing has spun these facts completely. It's disgusting how dishonest and corrupt the left wing media is.

he appointed an actual white supremacist to be his chief policy advisor. what are we supposed to think?

Sexist? Where? Drumpf has appointed many minorities and women to management positions within his organization. Drumpf respects women. If this charge of "sexism" is stemming from some locker room banter he engaged in about a dozen years ago... GIVE ME A FUCKING BREAK.

he is on record as referring to various women as fat pigs, admitting to numerous sexual assaults (he still has a pending court case) and saying it's a bad idea for a wife to have a career. what are we supposed to think?

Xenophobic? Where is the evidence of THAT ridiculous claim? If by now people don't realize that there's a MAJOR difference between LEGAL and ILLEGAL immigration then they are unfortunately, irreversibly stupid. Carry on with that border wall Mr. President, because it's needed, and wanted, by most Americans. As far as wanting to halt the influx of Syrian refugees... again, that has ZERO to do with "Xenophobia." All you have to do is take a good look at Germany and Sweden to understand what's been happening in those countries, and we have the power NOW to stop it BEFORE it becomes a problem here. Angela Merkel has recently stated that she's "sorry" she admitted so many refugees in. Too late bitch... you have forever changed the landscape of Germany, and it's only a matter of time before the muslims take over completely. It's VITAL to the safety of our citizens to enact extreme vetting of these refugees. OUR SAFETY is a greater concern than being falsely accused of "Xenophobia."

"a complete shutdown on muslims entering the country." "when mexico sends its people, they're sending criminals and rapists." he does not differentiate between legal and illegal immigration, he is directly characterizing muslims and mexicans as unwanted and unwelcome in any case. what are we supposed to think?

furthermore, even IF i was willing to grant that trump himself is not racist, sexist, or xenophobic (and i'm bloody well not), he has done more to embolden the despicable actions of those who ARE than any grand wizard could possibly dream.

there's a reason the Klan had a parade in north carolina, and there's a reason hate crimes have spiked in the last 6 days. they see him as a complete and utter validation of their views. why don't you try convincing THEM he's not a xenophobic racist?

Anti-environment? Bernie, please. Science has proven inconvenient facts, and presented them to us:

"Man-made global warming", "man-made global climate change," and "man-made severe weather" are all fictitious concepts and hoaxes perpetrated by criminals whose sole intent was to make millions and billions of dollars off of stupid, gullible, uneducated people. Deep ice samples have been drilled in Antarctica and the Arctic Circle and they PROVE that global warming is cyclical, and that pollution produced by mankind contributes nothing to global warming. In fact, ice deposits on the poles are growing, and are in fact larger than they ever have been. So, what's the real deal Bernie?

i'm sorry, but none of this is true. at all. there is a natural global warming and cooling cycle, yes, but by all scientific/geological accounts we are actually supposed to be in a cooling phase, on our way toward another ice age. that is simply not happening. do a little research on the nature of systemic causation, please. oh, and i would like to see a scientific peer-reviewed journal publishing about how "ice deposits on the poles are growing and are in fact larger than they ever have been." where are you getting this? polar ice grows and shrinks on a cyclical basis throughout the year, but ON AVERAGE, both sea ice and land ice are at lows not seen in millenia. show me peer-reviewed facts that say otherwise, or stop talking out your ass.

[Narrock]

he appointed an actual white supremacist to be his chief policy advisor. what are we supposed to think?

Wrong. Bannon is not a white supremacist. He made some comments about liberal Jews that were actually accurate. I don't like liberal Jews either. I like conservative Jews, and as a Christian, I support Israel. Bannon has also never said anything derogatory about Blacks, Hispanics, OR Asians. Your charge of Bannon being a "white supremacist" is 100% bullshit.

he is on record as referring to various women as fat pigs, admitting to numerous sexual assaults (he still has a pending court case) and saying it's a bad idea for a wife to have a career. what are we supposed to think?

Trump has said some derogatory things towards SOME women, I'll give you that, but to label him as a "sexist" is a FAR stretch. If he was truly sexist he wouldn't have appointed women to key managerial positions in his business enterprises, and political leadership roles... Katrina Pearson, Kellyanne Conway, etc. etc. etc. etc. etc.

"a complete shutdown on muslims entering the country." "when mexico sends its people, they're sending criminals and rapists." he does not differentiate between legal and illegal immigration, he is directly characterizing muslims and mexicans as unwanted and unwelcome in any case. what are we supposed to think?

furthermore, even IF i was willing to grant that trump himself is not racist, sexist, or xenophobic (and i'm bloody well not), he has done more to embolden the despicable actions of those who ARE than any grand wizard could possibly dream.

there's a reason the Klan had a parade in north carolina, and there's a reason hate crimes have spiked in the last 6 days. they see him as a complete and utter validation of their views. why don't you try convincing THEM he's not a xenophobic racist?

Who is committing 99% of the brutal atrocities around the world? That's right, MUSLIMS. Trump WILL be allowing Muslims into the U.S., but only after a NECESSARY extreme vetting process. OH NOES... TRUMP WANTS TO KEEP AMERICANS SAFE... ZOMG'S!!! He's also going to facilitate Syrian "safe zones" over there. That right there is showing heart, and also being responsible. Also, yeah fuck the Klan... and that's Trump's clear position on the Klan.

i'm sorry, but none of this is true. at all. there is a natural global warming and cooling cycle, yes, but by all scientific/geological accounts we are actually supposed to be in a cooling phase, on our way toward another ice age. that is simply not happening. do a little research on the nature of systemic causation, please. oh, and i would like to see a scientific peer-reviewed journal publishing about how "ice deposits on the poles are growing and are in fact larger than they ever have been." where are you getting this? polar ice grows and shrinks on a cyclical basis throughout the year, but ON AVERAGE, both sea ice and land ice are at lows not seen in millenia. show me peer-reviewed facts that say otherwise, or stop talking out your ass.

Yeah dude... I'm not gonna get into a copy-n-paste war of data with you. Believe what you want. My ultimate point is, that Bernie is already hinting that he's only willing to support Trump on issues if they align with a progressive agenda, and that's where he is being ignorant and wrong. Fuck the progressive agenda... it's fucking STUPID.

Also, take a look at what's transpired in just 6 days since Trump got elected... the stock market has had it's 4th straight day of record closings. President Nieto AND Justin Trudeau have exclaimed publicly that they are now willing to renogotiate NAFTA. Ford just announced they are going to start building their trucks in Ohio, instead of Mexico. Obama stopped pushing that retarded TPP. Germany, France and the UK are excited about working with the U.S. now. Putin is looking forward to a peaceful alliance with the U.S. now that Trump won. These are exciting and positive results that you never would have gotten with HRC as president-elect. I just wish Bernie would pull his head out of his rectum and get on board the winning train that's beneficial to everybody, here and abroad.

[brinstar]

lmao you'd lose a copy/paste data war with me son


stocks:
wealthy investment coke fiends know two facts right now. first, that there's about to be a feeding frenzy as trump strips away all the regulations keeping their bloodthirst in check. second, that they need to hoard as much as they can before we default and the global market craters to 1930s levels. be optimistic about the dow if you want, but remember my words when you're scrabbling through a burned out supermarket for the last can of green beans.

nafta:
good, renegotiate it. it sucked and has always sucked. no complaints there. progressives hate it.

ford:
once again you have gotten critical facts wrong. they announced (BEFORE THE ELECTION) that they would make a certain kind of vehicle in ohio. they are still making a different kind of vehicle in mexico.

TPP:
schumer killed it last week, actually. progressives have been against the TPP since day one, idk why the hell obama thought it was so great. sounds like you agree with progressives on more than you think, lmao

europe:
germany and france don't know their asses from holes in the ground right now, as they're being taken over by hard-right neonazis. not sure why you think they're so excited? you can have this one i guess, i don't care enough to fact check it

russia:
jesus christ of course putin is happy, his boyfriend just got elected

and for the final fucking time, i do NOT think hillary would have been a good president, so stop equating my disapproval of trump with approval of her and her piece of shit neoliberalism. if i thought she was super duper fantastic i wouldn't have taken my fight to the DNC floor in philly, would i? jesus get it through your lead cowboy hat

[Narrock]

It's cute how you are so thick-headed and delusional and refuse to give Trump credit for any of these positive things happening right now due to Trump being elected. Buckle up buttercup. Within 6 months you won't be able to deny that Trump was the right choice at the right time.



/hugs

[brinstar]

it's cute how you can't stomach the idea of me agreeing with you on certain things (TPP, NAFTA) so you resort to insults on the rest

since it's once again clear your grasp on the way words work is as slippery as your grasp on the way facts work, i think we're done here

[Narrock]

Woot! Let the awesomeness begin!!!

BREAKING: Trump’s 28 Point Plan For His Presidency REVEALED…This is EXACTLY What America Needs!
President-Elect Donald Trump’s made a lot of promises in 2016.


Twenty-eight of them, in fact – at least, that’s the latest count, courtesy of Breitbart. And he’s planning on following through

So what are they?

1. Propose a Constitutional Amendment to impose term limits on all members of Congress.

2. Institute a hiring freeze on all federal employees to reduce federal workforce through attrition (exempting military, public safety, and public health)

3. Require for every new federal regulation, two existing regulations must be eliminated.

4. Institute a five year-ban on White House and Congressional officials becoming lobbyists after they leave government service.

5. Create a lifetime ban on White House officials lobbying on behalf of a foreign government.

6. Institute a complete ban on foreign lobbyists raising money for American elections.

7. Announce intention to renegotiate NAFTA or withdraw from the deal under Article 2205.

8. Announce withdrawal from the Trans-Pacific Partnership.

9. Direct Secretary of the Treasury to label China a currency manipulator.

10. Direct the Secretary of Commerce and U.S. Trade Representative to identify all foreign trading abuses that unfairly impact American workers and direct them to use every tool under American and international law to end those abuses immediately.

11. Lift the restrictions on the production of $50 trillion dollars’ worth of job-producing American energy reserves, including shale, oil, natural gas and clean coal.

12. Lift the Obama-Clinton roadblocks and allow vital energy infrastructure projects, like the Keystone Pipeline, to move forward.

13. Cancel billions in payments to U.N. climate change programs and use the money to fix America’s water and environmental infrastructure.

14. Cancel every unconstitutional executive action, memorandum and order issued by President Obama.

15. Begin the process of selecting a replacement for Justice Scalia from one of the 20 judges on my list, who will uphold and defend the Constitution of the United States.

16. Cancel all federal funding to Sanctuary Cities.

17. Begin removing the more than 2 million criminal illegal immigrants from the country and cancel visas to foreign countries that won’t take them back.

18. Suspend immigration from terror-prone regions where vetting cannot safely occur. All vetting of people coming into our country will be considered extreme vetting.

19. Work with Congress on a Middle Class Tax Relief And Simplification Act. An economic plan designed to grow the economy 4% per year and create at least 25 million new jobs through massive tax reduction and simplification, in combination with trade reform, regulatory relief, and lifting the restrictions on American energy. The largest tax reductions are for the middle class. A middle-class family with 2 children will get a 35% tax cut. The current number of brackets will be reduced from 7 to 3, and tax forms will likewise be greatly simplified. The business rate will be lowered from 35 to 15 percent, and the trillions of dollars of American corporate money overseas can now be brought back at a 10 percent rate.

20. Work with Congress on a End The Offshoring ActEstablishes tariffs to discourage companies from laying off their workers in order to relocate in other countries and ship their products back to the U.S. tax-free.

21. Work with Congress on a American Energy & Infrastructure ActLeverages public-private partnerships, and private investments through tax incentives, to spur $1 trillion in infrastructure investment over 10 years. It is revenue neutral.

22. Work with Congress on a School Choice And Education Opportunity ActRedirects education dollars to gives parents the right to send their kid to the public, private, charter, magnet, religious or home school of their choice. Ends common core, brings education supervision to local communities. It expands vocational and technical education, and make 2 and 4-year college more affordable.

23. Work with Congress on a Repeal and Replace Obamacare ActFully repeals Obamacare and replaces it with Health Savings Accounts, the ability to purchase health insurance across state lines, and lets states manage Medicaid funds. Reforms will also include cutting the red tape at the FDA: there are over 4,000 drugs awaiting approval, and we especially want to speed the approval of life-saving medications.

24. Work with Congress on a Affordable Childcare and Eldercare Act. Allows Americans to deduct childcare and elder care from their taxes, incentivizes employers to provide on-side childcare services, and creates tax-free Dependent Care Savings Accounts for both young and elderly dependents, with matching contributions for low-income families.

25. Work with Congress on an End Illegal Immigration ActFully-funds the construction of a wall on our southern border with the full understanding that the country Mexico will be reimbursing the United States for the full cost of such wall; establishes a 2-year mandatory minimum federal prison sentence for illegally re-entering the U.S. after a previous deportation, and a 5-year mandatory minimum for illegally re-entering for those with felony convictions, multiple misdemeanor convictions or two or more prior deportations; also reforms visa rules to enhance penalties for overstaying and to ensure open jobs are offered to American workers first.

26. Work with Congress on a Restoring Community Safety Act.Reduces surging crime, drugs and violence by creating a Task Force On Violent Crime and increasing funding for programs that train and assist local police; increases resources for federal law enforcement agencies and federal prosecutors to dismantle criminal gangs and put violent offenders behind bars.

27. Work with Congress on a Restoring National Security Act.Rebuilds our military by eliminating the defense sequester and expanding military investment; provides Veterans with the ability to receive public VA treatment or attend the private doctor of their choice; protects our vital infrastructure from cyber-attack; establishes new screening procedures for immigration to ensure those who are admitted to our country support our people and our values.

28. Work with Congress on a Clean up Corruption in Washington Act.Enacts new ethics reforms to Drain the Swamp and reduce the corrupting influence of special interests on our politics.

And that, folks, is how you MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!!!

[Narrock]

it's cute how you can't stomach the idea of me agreeing with you on certain things (TPP, NAFTA) so you resort to insults on the rest

since it's once again clear your grasp on the way words work is as slippery as your grasp on the way facts work, i think we're done here

LOL You managed to say nothing of substance. You know that, right? All I heard was "I'm right, you're wrong... hurrrrrr." Then accuse me of insulting you, while you insulted me in the same sentence. That's some fine trolling, Skippy.

[brinstar]

because i like discussing policy proposals point by point (try to keep up)

1. Propose a Constitutional Amendment to impose term limits on all members of Congress.

i'm lukewarm on this idea. it would definitely help chase out the awful ones like mcconnell and pelosi, but would also get rid of the decent ones like sanders and curbelo. the real problem is that k street lobbyists (who don't have term limits) would have far more power, because their experience would hold a lot of sway over the constant influx of noob congresscritters.

utlimately i would be down with this if we made the following tweaks: first, put a limit on consecutive terms. here in NE our unicameral state legislature has a statute that prevents anyone from serving more than two consecutive terms - that way no one person becomes a permanent fixture, but voters can still bring back someone they truly love. second, put restrictions on lobbyists, like either a lifetime ban on former members of congress becoming lobbyists or a finite number of times their lobbyist license can be renewed before being banned.

2. Institute a hiring freeze on all federal employees to reduce federal workforce through attrition (exempting military, public safety, and public health)

this one seems really poorly thought out.

3. Require for every new federal regulation, two existing regulations must be eliminated.

what kind of stunted intellect thinks this is a good idea? i know you've been fed a steady diet of "regulations r bad nyuk nyuk" but how long until this idiotic proposal starts eating into regulations we can't live without? "okay donnie, we've narrowed it down to these two - you can either toss out the regulation keeping lead out of paint, or you can get rid of the one making sure new bridges are built with high quality steel" it's fuckin dumb

4. Institute a five year-ban on White House and Congressional officials becoming lobbyists after they leave government service.

oh yeah see my response to #1 above. i say make it a lifetime ban.

5. Create a lifetime ban on White House officials lobbying on behalf of a foreign government.

is this a thing? does this happen often? okay whatever

6. Institute a complete ban on foreign lobbyists raising money for American elections.

pretty sure there already is a ban on this, but if there isn't, yeah sure do it

7. Announce intention to renegotiate NAFTA or withdraw from the deal under Article 2205.

as previously stated, sure

8. Announce withdrawal from the Trans-Pacific Partnership.

hell yeah

9. Direct Secretary of the Treasury to label China a currency manipulator.

i'm fuzzy on what this does actually. what would the consequences be? trade war? cold war? actual war?

10. Direct the Secretary of Commerce and U.S. Trade Representative to identify all foreign trading abuses that unfairly impact American workers and direct them to use every tool under American and international law to end those abuses immediately.

okay this sounds good, but i bet his rich buddies aren't going to like it

11. Lift the restrictions on the production of $50 trillion dollars’ worth of job-producing American energy reserves, including shale, oil, natural gas and clean coal.

get fucked. walk into the ocean and don't come back. you are literally murdering millions of future humans. fuck this and fuck him and fuck you.

12. Lift the Obama-Clinton roadblocks and allow vital energy infrastructure projects, like the Keystone Pipeline, to move forward.

i refer you to my previous response.

13. Cancel billions in payments to U.N. climate change programs and use the money to fix America’s water and environmental infrastructure.

how about canceling fossil fuel subsidies instead and use the money to fix america's water and environmental infrastructure? otherwise, i refer you to my response to #11.

14. Cancel every unconstitutional executive action, memorandum and order issued by President Obama.

dumb garbage soundbite designed to appeal to dumb garbage voters

15. Begin the process of selecting a replacement for Justice Scalia from one of the 20 judges on my list, who will uphold and defend the Constitution of the United States.

yeah right, good luck getting anything past the senate. your asshole party wrote the playbook on obstructionism, now prepare to get beaten by it

16. Cancel all federal funding to Sanctuary Cities.

i refer you to my response to #14

17. Begin removing the more than 2 million criminal illegal immigrants from the country and cancel visas to foreign countries that won’t take them back.

lulz good luck on that one

18. Suspend immigration from terror-prone regions where vetting cannot safely occur. All vetting of people coming into our country will be considered extreme vetting.

all regions are terror-prone regions. again i refer you to my response to #14

19. Work with Congress on a Middle Class Tax Relief And Simplification Act. An economic plan designed to grow the economy 4% per year and create at least 25 million new jobs through massive tax reduction and simplification, in combination with trade reform, regulatory relief, and lifting the restrictions on American energy. The largest tax reductions are for the middle class. A middle-class family with 2 children will get a 35% tax cut. The current number of brackets will be reduced from 7 to 3, and tax forms will likewise be greatly simplified. The business rate will be lowered from 35 to 15 percent, and the trillions of dollars of American corporate money overseas can now be brought back at a 10 percent rate.

this will backfire spectacularly. you want to see how a plan like this works, look at kansas right now. the same people even wrote it.

20. Work with Congress on a End The Offshoring Act. Establishes tariffs to discourage companies from laying off their workers in order to relocate in other countries and ship their products back to the U.S. tax-free.

hella good plan, though i reserve the right to revoke my enthusiasm if there's stupid shit hidden in the details by the time the bill is actually written.

21. Work with Congress on a American Energy & Infrastructure Act. Leverages public-private partnerships, and private investments through tax incentives, to spur $1 trillion in infrastructure investment over 10 years. It is revenue neutral.

this won't happen. if a business can't make money on a thing, it won't do that thing. "tax incentives" is another way to say "tax breaks" is another way to say "taking from people" and i guarantee it won't affect the people who can afford it

22. Work with Congress on a School Choice And Education Opportunity Act. Redirects education dollars to gives parents the right to send their kid to the public, private, charter, magnet, religious or home school of their choice. Ends common core, brings education supervision to local communities. It expands vocational and technical education, and make 2 and 4-year college more affordable.

fuck privatization of education with public money. fuck it forever. you want your stupid bullshit private schools where you can teach fairy tales like "oh the earth is 5000 years old" or "oh native americans welcomed us", you pay for them yourselves. i am all for making college more affordable, but fuck the rest of that noise.

23. Work with Congress on a Repeal and Replace Obamacare Act. Fully repeals Obamacare and replaces it with Health Savings Accounts, the ability to purchase health insurance across state lines, and lets states manage Medicaid funds. Reforms will also include cutting the red tape at the FDA: there are over 4,000 drugs awaiting approval, and we especially want to speed the approval of life-saving medications.

lol except he has already said there are parts of obamacare that aren't going anywhere. i don't know why anyone believed otherwise - campaign promises from a snake oil salesman sound great to morons i guess

24. Work with Congress on a Affordable Childcare and Eldercare Act. Allows Americans to deduct childcare and elder care from their taxes, incentivizes employers to provide on-side childcare services, and creates tax-free Dependent Care Savings Accounts for both young and elderly dependents, with matching contributions for low-income families.

huh, this is nice. again, unless something shitty is hiding in the details, i dig this idea.

25. Work with Congress on an End Illegal Immigration Act. Fully-funds the construction of a wall on our southern border with the full understanding that the country Mexico will be reimbursing the United States for the full cost of such wall; establishes a 2-year mandatory minimum federal prison sentence for illegally re-entering the U.S. after a previous deportation, and a 5-year mandatory minimum for illegally re-entering for those with felony convictions, multiple misdemeanor convictions or two or more prior deportations; also reforms visa rules to enhance penalties for overstaying and to ensure open jobs are offered to American workers first.

"we will build a wall and mexico will pay for it" is such a joke. funny how conservatives always want to fight illegal immigration but they NEVER GO AFTER COMPANIES THAT HIRE ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS. lmao gimme a fuckin break. as long as people keep hiring them, they'll keep coming. no work = no immigrants.

26. Work with Congress on a Restoring Community Safety Act. Reduces surging crime, drugs and violence by creating a Task Force On Violent Crime and increasing funding for programs that train and assist local police; increases resources for federal law enforcement agencies and federal prosecutors to dismantle criminal gangs and put violent offenders behind bars.

violent crime continues to decline from peak 90s levels. it is not "surging" by any metric whatsoever. this is a scare tactic. don't fall for it.

27. Work with Congress on a Restoring National Security Act. Rebuilds our military by eliminating the defense sequester and expanding military investment; provides Veterans with the ability to receive public VA treatment or attend the private doctor of their choice; protects our vital infrastructure from cyber-attack; establishes new screening procedures for immigration to ensure those who are admitted to our country support our people and our values.

translation: we will go even further into debt in order to give our military weapons it doesn't even want, while ignoring its pleas to take climate change seriously as a major cause of global instability (i can back this up with direct quotes from military officials if you are still dumb enough to come at me). the rest of it is just fluff. "our values"? whose values, yours? or the majority of americans who voted for someone else?

28. Work with Congress on a Clean up Corruption in Washington Act.Enacts new ethics reforms to Drain the Swamp and reduce the corrupting influence of special interests on our politics.

hoo boy off to a great start there, you hypocritical pumpkin man! nothing like filling your transition team with corrupt lobbyists to show how serious you are about throwing out corrupt lobbyists! god, what kind of morons fall for this trash?

oh right

[Arlos]

I present this temperature timeline into the discussion on global warming:



Notice how the temperature DOES move in very slow cycles for the last 20,000 years. So yes, there is something of a cyclical element to global warming. No climate scientist denies this. The point you are failing to grasp, however, is that what is happening now is RADICALLY different than those slow sine wave cyclical changes. Look at the average temperature line from 1900 to now. That is fundamentally different from any other time in that history. There has never been anything like it, ever, no matter how deep an ice core we get. Guess what happened only a few decades before the climate started to radically shift? Yep, that's right, the industrial revolution, when we started burning mass amounts of fossil fuels....

[Arlos]

1. Propose a Constitutional Amendment to impose term limits on all members of Congress.

This is one of those "feel good ideas" that has zero chance of actually ever happening, and might not be a good idea anyway. As Brinstar mentioned, this will INCREASE lobbyist influence, not decrease it. The Senate especially benefits from people being there for several terms, because it takes a while to learn all the ins and outs of the role. Besides, if you REALLY want to create greater turnover in the house, do like California did and take the congressional districting out of the hands of politicians, so we don't have the kind of extreme gerrymandering that has happened all over the country, to basically ensure incumbents get re-elected. Let a panel of private citizens (made up of equal numbers of Democrats, Republicans, and Independents, like CA) work out the districting so it is done in a non-partisan fashion. That will immediately create much more turnover among representatives, and force them to be much more responsive to the interests of ALL the residents in their district, not just hyper-partisans. Besides, if you really think that 2/3 of Congress will vote to voluntarily limit their own term limits, I have a rather large and bright orange bridge just north of San Francisco I'd like to sell you.

2. Institute a hiring freeze on all federal employees to reduce federal workforce through attrition (exempting military, public safety, and public health)

This is also idiotic. People hired to government jobs don't just sit around picking their ass and launching snot rockets at the doors of their office, they actually do real work. Much of it important work. You want to get new drugs approved faster, you really think that not letting the FDA hire new employees is going to help that? What happens if several janitors at a federal building all retire or move to new jobs at the same time? Let the building and its bathrooms get filthy because of a silly rule like this? Twaddle.

3. Require for every new federal regulation, two existing regulations must be eliminated.

This may be the stupidest one yet. You know the rule about restaurant employees having to wash their hands after they take a dump? That's a regulation. How about we do away with that one, then? Requiring meat producers to not sell mad-cow disease tainted meat for feed is a regulation. How about we dump that one? Yes, some regulations can seem silly, but the vast majority are of vital importance, and the idea you'd have to eliminate useful regulations just because something new has come up that needs to be regulated is monumentally idiotic.

4. Institute a five year-ban on White House and Congressional officials becoming lobbyists after they leave government service.

This one I wouldn't be opposed to, generally, so long as individual rights are taken into account, and there aren't idiocies hidden in the fine print. Besides, given who he's appointed to his transition team, it's obvious Trump doesn't care about lobbyists, given that he's been appointing industry lobbyists to oversee those industries. Duke Energy lobbyist being put in charge of the EPA. Verizon lobbyist for head of the FCC. Yeah, he's *SO* anti-lobbyist....

5. Create a lifetime ban on White House officials lobbying on behalf of a foreign government.

What, you mean like Paul Manafort, who if the media hadn't reported on his ties to the Soviet-backed puppet government of Ukraine, would now be a White House official that had lobbied on behalf of a foreign government? Yeah, obviously this is a HUGE concern for Trump. Right. Pull the other one.

6. Institute a complete ban on foreign lobbyists raising money for American elections.

I believe there already is such a ban. Foreigners already aren't allowed to donate to campaigns. Due to Citizen's United, though, and the dark money nature of SuperPac's, they have a backdoor way of doing so. The Democrats have spoken out against such dark money in politics, and want to reverse Citizen's United. The GOP has said a whole lot of nothing. Oh, and then there's this item, where people on Trump's team colluded to launder a $1m donation from a fake "rich Chinese investor": http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/10 ... r-fundrai/ Again, such a HUGE concern of Trump's... not.

7. Announce intention to renegotiate NAFTA or withdraw from the deal under Article 2205.

You realize there's a lot of benefit we get from NAFTA too, right? Last figures I saw showed that more jobs had been created by NAFTA than were lost, they just weren't the same jobs in the same industries. Sure, renegotiating it is fine, but trying to do it to specifically advantage the US isn't going to go anywhere, and unilaterally pulling out could severely damage the economy.

8. Announce withdrawal from the Trans-Pacific Partnership.

This is effectively dead already. Which I'm fine with, specifically because of the anti-environmental language written in there.

9. Direct Secretary of the Treasury to label China a currency manipulator.

And this will have what effect, exactly? I mean besides damaging US-China relations, where a trade war with China could cost us trillions? (yes, that's with a T)

10. Direct the Secretary of Commerce and U.S. Trade Representative to identify all foreign trading abuses that unfairly impact American workers and direct them to use every tool under American and international law to end those abuses immediately.

"End Abuses" Sounds great on paper, but there's no substance here. WHAT abuses? And what are we going to do about them?

11. Lift the restrictions on the production of $50 trillion dollars’ worth of job-producing American energy reserves, including shale, oil, natural gas and clean coal.

Absolutely not. Not to mention, you DO realize there's a glut on the oil market, so even if more areas WERE opened up to oil drilling, that oil companies wouldn't do it because it's not economically viable at the moment, given the price of oil per barrel? You also realize that this country is in the middle of a huge energy production boom already, especially natural gas? Doesn't seem to ME like there are massive "restrictions" on fossil fuel production that are crippling this nation somehow.

12. Lift the Obama-Clinton roadblocks and allow vital energy infrastructure projects, like the Keystone Pipeline, to move forward.

You do remember how I explained to you how the Keystone pipeline wouldn't do anything to reduce gas prices here in the US, and would actually increase them through much of the northern midwest where that oil is currently sold? The sole thing that the Keystone Pipeline will do is let a CANADIAN oil company have quicker access to sell their oil internationally, by the pipeline to a port city in the south. Also, there are less than 100 jobs involved in the pipeline going forward once it's actually built. Sure, construction would employ more people, but those people would be far better employed rebuilding roads, bridges, and highways instead. Also, the Diluted Bitumen that would go through the pipeline is incredibly corrosive, incredibly toxic, and incredibly hard to clean up. See this about a diluted bitumen spill in Michigan in 2010, that took FOUR YEARS to mostly clean up enough to actually re-open the river, and it did permanent ecological damage. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kalamazoo_River_oil_spill

13. Cancel billions in payments to U.N. climate change programs and use the money to fix America’s water and environmental infrastructure.

Translation: Fuck our grandkids, for greater profits to oil companies now. Even the military considers climate change to be one of THEIR biggest concerns going forwards. Climate change is THE big global problem every nation on earth needs to tackle. Like Brinstar mentioned, we subsidize oil companies, some of the richest companies in the world, with far more billions per year than we give to the UN. Why not stop THAT money and use it for this, if he's actually interested in doing it?

14. Cancel every unconstitutional executive action, memorandum and order issued by President Obama.

If they were unconstitutional, they would have been challenged in court and ruled as such. Like what happened with one of his immigration orders. The courts haven't ruled anything else unconstitutional, ergo, it isn't. So, this is a empty talking point with no actual relevance.

15. Begin the process of selecting a replacement for Justice Scalia from one of the 20 judges on my list, who will uphold and defend the Constitution of the United States.

If you think for 1 second that the Democrats are going to let another Scalia get appointed, after the travesty the GOP has pulled over the last year since he died, you've gone completely loony. A moderate might get through, but a hard-right Bork/Clarence Thomas/Scalia type? Not a chance. Filibuster all day erry day. The GOP made its bed on this issue, now it gets to see what it feels like.

16. Cancel all federal funding to Sanctuary Cities.

Idiot soundbite attended to appeal to low-information voters. Besides, if he tries this, that will be a HUGE backer of the currently gaining steam #CalExit movement. Besides, what happened to the supposed GOP love for "States Rights"?

17. Begin removing the more than 2 million criminal illegal immigrants from the country and cancel visas to foreign countries that won’t take them back.

Yeah, and how exactly are you going to deport 2 million people without trampling on people's civil rights? How many actual citizens will get deported by mistake? How many kids that were brought here as infants and have never known any other country, and are in no way responsible for what their parents did are you prepared to send to a country they have no memory of, and may not even speak the language of? What do you do with US citizens (because they were born here) that are maybe 4 or 5 years old, but who's parents were here illegally? You can't deport citizens, and you can't leave a toddler without his parents. Oh, and birthright citizenship is part of the Constitution, so you can't ignore it, or is it suddenly ok to ignore parts of the constitution YOU don't like? Besides, doing something like this would cause even greater disconnect between communities and their police as well.

18. Suspend immigration from terror-prone regions where vetting cannot safely occur. All vetting of people coming into our country will be considered extreme vetting.

Um, you are aware that refugees from Syria, etc, have to undergo more than 2 years of vetting before they come here? And that there has never once been a terroristic incident perpetrated by a refugee that came to the US? More meaningless sound bites designed to appeal to low-information voters.

19. Work with Congress on a Middle Class Tax Relief And Simplification Act. An economic plan designed to grow the economy 4% per year and create at least 25 million new jobs through massive tax reduction and simplification, in combination with trade reform, regulatory relief, and lifting the restrictions on American energy. The largest tax reductions are for the middle class. A middle-class family with 2 children will get a 35% tax cut. The current number of brackets will be reduced from 7 to 3, and tax forms will likewise be greatly simplified. The business rate will be lowered from 35 to 15 percent, and the trillions of dollars of American corporate money overseas can now be brought back at a 10 percent rate.

You realize they've tried this in Kansas for a number of years, right? It's been a disastrous failure. Same sort of claimed "economic growth" results that would offset the revenue lost in taxes, and it never actually happens. As a result the state is in shambles, they've had to massively cut funding for education, and on top of that they have a much weaker economy and higher levels of unemployment compared to surrounding states. This system DOES NOT WORK. See also the economic predictions of what the Trump tax plan would do to the deficit: increase it by multiple trillions within a decade. BRILLIANT IDEA!

20. Work with Congress on a End The Offshoring Act Establishes tariffs to discourage companies from laying off their workers in order to relocate in other countries and ship their products back to the U.S. tax-free.

Hey! One that isn't complete crap right from the start! However, tariffs are very chancy things. It was a tariff that triggered the true plunge into the Great Depression back in the 1930s.

21. Work with Congress on a American Energy & Infrastructure Act Leverages public-private partnerships, and private investments through tax incentives, to spur $1 trillion in infrastructure investment over 10 years. It is revenue neutral.

You're going to have to prove that whole "revenue neutral" part. But again, Democrats have been calling for greater infrastructure spending for a long time now. Constantly stonewalled by the GOP congress, which doesn't exactly strike me with Nostradamus-like certainty that they'll some how vote for it NOW.

22. Work with Congress on a School Choice And Education Opportunity ActRedirects education dollars to gives parents the right to send their kid to the public, private, charter, magnet, religious or home school of their choice. Ends common core, brings education supervision to local communities. It expands vocational and technical education, and make 2 and 4-year college more affordable.

Making college and technical/vocational education more affordable is a great idea. You might recall it being a centerpiece of Bernie's campaign. But the first part: absolutely not. Charter schools are just a dodge for rich people to send their kids to private school without having to pay as much. Improve PUBLIC schools, rather than splinter the system into splinters. Also, national control is necessary, to keep states from including items in their curricula that are entirely untrue. (see: textbooks claiming that humans and dinosaurs were around at the same time, downplaying slavery, etc.)

23. Work with Congress on a Repeal and Replace Obamacare Act Fully repeals Obamacare and replaces it with Health Savings Accounts, the ability to purchase health insurance across state lines, and lets states manage Medicaid funds. Reforms will also include cutting the red tape at the FDA: there are over 4,000 drugs awaiting approval, and we especially want to speed the approval of life-saving medications.

As for "cutting the red tape at the FDA", I have one word to say about that: Thalidomide. Look it up. Also, there are no federal restrictions whatsoever on purchasing insurance across state lines. None. Totally legal already. STATES don't allow it, since each state has their own standard for what insurance companies must offer, etc, and a state allowing its residents to buy out of state insurance would be allowing people to bypass state law with regards to health insurance. Also, how are people who are working at minimum wage and barely living paycheck to paycheck supposed to put together a "health savings account" sufficient to get them treatment if they get cancer, say? You want to cut healthcare costs, give EVERYONE coverage, so that people seek treatment at the first signs of something being wrong, rather than waiting until they're rushed to an emergency room, which can cost upwards of 10x as much. Oh, and I'm sure there'd be SO many grateful parents if you took away their ability to keep their kids on the parents' insurance policy until they're 26, or if you allowed insurance companies to exclude people due to pre-existing conditions again.

24. Work with Congress on a Affordable Childcare and Eldercare Act. Allows Americans to deduct childcare and elder care from their taxes, incentivizes employers to provide on-side childcare services, and creates tax-free Dependent Care Savings Accounts for both young and elderly dependents, with matching contributions for low-income families.

This might be a good idea, though I reserve judgement until I see actual details.

25. Work with Congress on an End Illegal Immigration ActFully-funds the construction of a wall on our southern border with the full understanding that the country Mexico will be reimbursing the United States for the full cost of such wall; establishes a 2-year mandatory minimum federal prison sentence for illegally re-entering the U.S. after a previous deportation, and a 5-year mandatory minimum for illegally re-entering for those with felony convictions, multiple misdemeanor convictions or two or more prior deportations; also reforms visa rules to enhance penalties for overstaying and to ensure open jobs are offered to American workers first.

The wall is the all time grand king of moronic ideas. I suggest you look up the issues with places in Texas, etc. that already HAVE a wall. Terrain is often very rugged, there's the Rio Grande to worry about, plus how many people's property would have to be seized by eminent domain for there to actually be land to put the bloody thing? And no, Mexico is not paying it. Anyone who believes that should have their head examined.

26. Work with Congress on a Restoring Community Safety Act.Reduces surging crime, drugs and violence by creating a Task Force On Violent Crime and increasing funding for programs that train and assist local police; increases resources for federal law enforcement agencies and federal prosecutors to dismantle criminal gangs and put violent offenders behind bars.

Crime isn't surging. Media reports of crime are surging. Actual crime isn't. Just about everywhere in the US the numbers show a steady decline in violent crime for the last 15+ years. This is a manufactured issue that has no basis whatsoever in reality.

27. Work with Congress on a Restoring National Security Act. Rebuilds our military by eliminating the defense sequester and expanding military investment; provides Veterans with the ability to receive public VA treatment or attend the private doctor of their choice; protects our vital infrastructure from cyber-attack; establishes new screening procedures for immigration to ensure those who are admitted to our country support our people and our values.

Funny, I don't remember a values or religion test mentioned in the Constitution when it comes to who can become a citizen. We already spend more on defense than something like the #2-9 nations COMBINED. We do NOT need more military spending. We need SMARTER military spending, like not spending > $1Trillion on a fighter design that can't even dogfight as well as a 1970's era F16, for example.

28. Work with Congress on a Clean up Corruption in Washington Act. Enacts new ethics reforms to Drain the Swamp and reduce the corrupting influence of special interests on our politics.

Funny, if he really wanted to "drain the swamp", why has he been naming nothing but Washington insiders and industry lobbyists to his transition team and as potential Cabinet members? Yeah, this is obviously a HUGE priority of his. Not.

[Drem]

I blame cell phones and other distractors. People are legit stupid and checked-out from reality. Half the shit Trump said was to get stupid people that only care about themselves to vote for him. Totally worked. Now watch as he follows thru on 1% or less of those promises and life goes on like normal. He's already changed his stance on Obamacare since he finally "Googled it" and found that he likes most of it. This whole situation is surreal

My only real worries are whether or not he follows through with his abysmal environmental plans. No one's getting deported, nothing is gonna change. I wanna be like Tom Hanks and hope Trump actually does a good job

[Narrock]

Arlos said:

Notice how the temperature DOES move in very slow cycles for the last 20,000 years. So yes, there is something of a cyclical element to global warming. No climate scientist denies this. The point you are failing to grasp, however, is that what is happening now is RADICALLY different than those slow sine wave cyclical changes. Look at the average temperature line from 1900 to now. That is fundamentally different from any other time in that history. There has never been anything like it, ever, no matter how deep an ice core we get. Guess what happened only a few decades before the climate started to radically shift? Yep, that's right, the industrial revolution, when we started burning mass amounts of fossil fuels....

First of all, there's MUCH more than just "something of a cyclical element" to global warming. If you go back millions and millions of years, not just 20,000, you will see that it's DEFINITELY cyclical. You won't get ANY argument from me that measures must be taken to ensure we have clean air to breathe, safe and clean water to drink, and flora and fauna to protect... but we're doing that. Although the EPA has too much control, and must be bridled a bit, they have done a good job helping throttle back on vehicle emissions. Remember when bigrigs, tour busses, and school busses used to spew out huge clouds of black smoke every time they accelerated? Those days are over. Smog levels in southern Cali, and everywhere for that matter, are declining massively due to more stringent exhaust requirements, diesel particulate filters, etc.

However, choking out oil refinement, coal mines, and other fossil fuel processes is incredibly stupid and massively ignorant. We NEED petroleum products. Don't get me started on fracking, either. I wouldn't mind seeing more electric cars... not as a mandate, but as a choice. We can continue improving on emission requirements, but NO to eliminating fossil fuel production.

Now let's talk about the POSITIVE aspects to fossil fuel production and refinement. First of all, it keeps us moving by air, sea, and land. It creates MILLIONS of jobs. It helps our economy. It makes our lives easier. It keeps us warm in winter, and cool in summer. In addition, and as a side note, we have the largest oil reserve in the world, right off the coast of Alaska. If we were to do the right thing and tap into it, the combination of offshore rigs, refinery on the shore adjacent to the oil reserve, highway and train tracks, etc all combined, would look like a postage stamp on a football field. There's absolutely NO valid reasons to block this project. This is a prime example of how the EPA needs to be hamstrung. They are getting in the way of progress, because this refinery *might* disturb a speckled spotted shrimp, or cause a bird to have to fly around it. Ridiculous. This refinery would definitely cause us to be energy-independent, and would make our domestic fuel prices go down dramatically. Yes, yes it would. The Keystone XL pipeline wouldn't cause our price at the pump to go down, but if you remember, Trump said he would only consider the pipeline if Canada agreed to pay us for that access. I believe it was in the neighborhood of 30%, and THAT money could be used to help repair OUR infrastructure, which if you think outside the box, will create millions of jobs and increase our economy substantially.

Now, if you (rhetorically speaking), think that we will achieve energy independence by pumping billions of dollars into solar and wind power technology... excuse me while I laugh my fucking ass off.

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Why tho? They are legit energy sources. Also these new trash burning facilities. Why the fuck do we need to keep draining our planet of fossil fuels when we absolutely don't need to? Because it creates jobs? What a shit excuse