Rotj, you aren't getting Shaq+K-mart for anything short of..

[vonkaar]

two top 20 players... stop trying to pawn fucking Z on me.

[Rotj]

And yourself with god damn Chucky Atkins. I see you need a centre..I have a few at your demise.

Shoot me back with one though..I like Cat Mobley. If we can work him in there..I think we'll close this one out pretty soon.

[vonkaar]

There are lots of centers better than Z =p. I could put Dirk at center even... with K-Mart at PF.

Sorry... I know Z is ranked high but I have no respect for him (watch him explode this year...)

Who do you like better... Mobley, Kurt Thomas or Rashard Lewis? Trying to figure out what gets you more excited =p. I'm just surprised you aren't all googly about getting two high picks for Dirk and a top '150' player =/.

[Rotj]

I'm worried about Dirk and Daniels going insane..with the current Mav's team this year..

Tell you what: I'm pretty weak at guard positions. Give me a tiny upgrade from Chucky and we'll close this out now.

[vonkaar]

Well, Dirk definitely well... Daniels is currently injured though and might miss at least the first week of the season...

I'm showing stupid loyalty to my own team =p

[Rotj]

Opps read above..edit. I'll toss in Gadzuric if you want! Haha!

[vonkaar]

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm

AI is my PG... Daniels is going to be my SG. Zan tells me to keep Willie Green... let me get second opinion.

[Rotj]

Fair enough. Big decision to make. At least my homosexual affinity for Daniels will be over. (He's in my other fantasy team too).

[vonkaar]

damnit...

that wouldn't be a fair trade...
Cutino Mobley could be a good PG for you... but he won't get the huge assists because Francis is there now...

hmmm

we need to get Lyion involved... he has PGs coming out his ass.

you said you don't like chucky atkins? Why not start Speedy Claxton and then you need a SG for losing Daniels... hmmm...

How about..

Shaq - C
Cutino Mobley - SG
Chucky Atkins - PG

for

Dirk - F/C
Marquis Daniels - SG

That fills my holes (ooh, so sexy) and gets your guard situation 'mostly' fixed. You have 2 'decent' PG and a great SG replacement for losing Daniels.. plus you get Shaq... who will have pretty fucked up numers in the soft East =p.

[Rotj]

Would like to grab a 2nd opinion on my other fantasy team which consists of:

K. Hinrich.
M. Daniels.
Josh Howard.
Juwan Howard.
Z. Randolph.
C. Webber.
T. Duncan.
S. Dalembert.
E. Curry.
M. Harpring.
D. Harris.
D. Miles.
D. Mason.

Which spot do you think I need to address asap..guards? I'm not sure who to give up though. :|

[Rotj]

We could try three way..sure, I'm up for that. But if we are only dealing together..I want that dawg Lewis in there too! I'm already trading Speedy + Okafor for Redd and Arroyo..to semi-address the situation.

You don't like Blount or Mohammed? Blount might be good to fill that large hole up.

[vonkaar]

You have the freshman / sophomore market cornered =p

that's a good team... I'd say you are fine on guards... Hinrich is going to explode
Daniels is a good starting SG... and then Duncan / Randolph are great picks..

[Rotj]

Cool, thanks for that. I was tempted to tinker around and tried to facilitate some trades but to no avail. Looks like I'll stick to it and see how they play out.

Regarding our trade how does:

Cat Mobley, Shaq + R.Lewis for Dirk, Daniels and Blount / Jim Jackson?

[vonkaar]

I'm being called an idiot for going so far for those guys... so... I think I'll have to back away from a big trade like that...

I like both Jackson and Blount...

however...

How about, Center for Center, guard for guard...

Dirk+Daniels for Shaq+Mobley

IMO, dirk>shaq, although probably half the world would disagree...

but then Mobley (ranked 54) is surely considered a better pick than Daniels (ranked 138).

I don't want to give up so much just for team loyalty =/. R.Lewis is a big fantasy name.

[Rotj]

Tempting with Shaq..but Daniels was incredible in the last month of the reg.season along with the playoffs (as you obviously know very well)..there's just no way I'm going to drop that talent..for Cat. :/

[vonkaar]

Alright... last try...

any of my 'lower' guys you want to throw in to the shaq+mobley deal to make it even? I don't really want to look at the rest of your team because the remaining players I want would require a fairly large trade on my part... so... I'm sticking with Dirk/Daniels. You already said you don't like Chucky, right?

edit: screw it... I'm not going to play ridnour... I'll throw him in the mix (shut up Zanchief).

edit edit: nm... I like him... not worth it...

You like Kurt Thomas? He's at 72... what if we did Kurt, Shaq, Mobley... for Blount(114), Dirk, Daniels? Center+Center+Guard for Center+Center+Guard.

[Rotj]

Apart from K-Mart, AI and Rashard..not really..aa shit. How about you? Anyone you want? Anyone on my team is tradable..soo I'm pretty much open to anything.

Btw, well done on your team..I mean..you have a ton of guns to shoot out there!

[Rotj]

I think what we need is a three way. You want Daniels + Dirk. Someone would probably go for Shaq..and whoever that third superstar is..I'd look into.

[vonkaar]

meh

Yao? =p

I give up =/. I should be able to get a lot more for Shaq =/

[Malluas]

i think my team is alright.. kinda guard heavy tho which can be good hehe

Stephon Marbury
James Posey
Mike Bibby
Juwan Howard
Elton Brand
Carlos Boozer
Etan Thomas
Cliff Robinson (once it clears waivers blah)
Latrell Sprewell
Quentin Richardson
Bobby Jackson
Chris Wilcox
L. Deng if he clears waivers

[Rotj]

Haha. :D

I think it was foolish on my part not to take Lewis when he was open. Oh well. All good though..If you come up with any combos or anyone else wants to jump in here..I'd definetely be keen to hear out.

[vonkaar]

FU Malluas.. I have Deng on waivers too!

[Malluas]

lol i would ahve got osterfat is he wasn't injured hehe

i need a center better than etan thomas... wtf hehe

hey btw we get points for bench players?

[vonkaar]

I believe your whole team receives scoring.

[Malluas]

ah then i must pick up someone