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Postby Lyion » Tue Oct 12, 2004 8:40 am

Ok, I've managed to add a small gut to my midsection over the last few years.

Last year I decided to lift and do walking/jogging to lose it.
After a year of moderate exercise, my arms are nicely cut, and I'm in great shape.. But my pouch has not gone away....

I figured beer was the culprit, so a few months ago I took a beer sabbatical. I eat decently, but I'm not crazy into health foods. No go so far. Same old situation.

Google has 20 different health plans from many different nuts. Anyone know of a decent regiment for this? I'm thinking I should probably hardcore diet, but that would seriously suck, as I love food. :cry:

Any decent ideas?
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Postby Xaiveir » Tue Oct 12, 2004 9:12 am

You are going to laugh, but one of the best ways to get rid of a pooch belly is to wrap your stomach in saran wrap. Wear it like that all day, and even work out in it. Make sure to do plenty of situps, to lose the belly quickly.

The saran wrap around your stomach will cause your body to constantly burn calories there, similiar to sitting in a sauna. Its a secret that alot of weight lifters use to get the chiseled abs look, with a thin waistline.

When you take off the wrap at night (dont sleep in it) it will be extremely sweaty.

Hope this helps.


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Postby Xaiveir » Tue Oct 12, 2004 9:17 am

One more option also. When you eat, do you eat till you are stuffed? Or do you eat till you are satisfied?

Its been proven that if you eat small portions when you are hungry throughout the day, instead of 3 big meals where you stuff yourself, its better for you.

By eating alot in one sitting it actually increases the fat content that your body stores. Where if you eat only untill you are satisfied multiple times a day, your metabolism is constantly working, and there is no excess fat build up.

With excess food, guess where that is stored? The belly. Number one cause for the pooch belly.

Using this approach you can eat all the good food you want, and still have the desired look. Just cant eat it all at one time.

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Postby fefn » Tue Oct 12, 2004 9:43 am

The only way to lose your gut effectively is to maintain proper diet and maintain some form of calorie burning exercise on a regular basis. It will come with time.

You don't have to remove all carbohydrates or go on a strictly protein diet etc, you simply need to cut out a lot of your simple carbohydrates (sugar = bad) and saturated/trans fats. Diet is the biggest culprit in the failure of weight loss.

I've lost almost 60 lbs in the last 14 months and I still get discouraged with my progress on a regular basis. All it takes is time and dedication; it's simply a matter of how badly you want it.
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Postby Lyion » Tue Oct 12, 2004 11:40 am

I've lost weight, and I'm happy where I'm at, but its the gut!

Thanks for the Seran Wrap tip. I'll give that a go, and up my situp count!
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Postby Martrae » Tue Oct 12, 2004 11:41 am

Try Pilates.
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Postby vonkaar » Tue Oct 12, 2004 11:43 am

Where is cyni? I'm sure he'd have some good ideas...
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Postby Harrison » Tue Oct 12, 2004 11:52 am

X Im going to try that.

Im pretty happy where Im at, but I could tone up my stomach more and be much happier.
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Postby Tacks » Tue Oct 12, 2004 11:55 am

He's busy getting married.
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Postby Xaiveir » Tue Oct 12, 2004 1:04 pm

Another option to go along with the seran wrap is this. While you are sitting at work, in the car, watching tv on the couch, playing EQ whatever. Constantly just flex and unflex your abs. A quick flex to make them hard then slowly release it. Do it numerous times throughout the day, and in no time you will get rid of the pooch also.


Nothing works better for baseball players than to take batting practice wearing seran wrap. There is a work out for you.


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Postby Tae-Bo » Tue Oct 12, 2004 1:16 pm

eat less and exercise more :wink:
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Postby Harrison » Tue Oct 12, 2004 3:54 pm

Xaiveir Tanthalas wrote:Another option to go along with the seran wrap is this. While you are sitting at work, in the car, watching tv on the couch, playing EQ whatever. Constantly just flex and unflex your abs. A quick flex to make them hard then slowly release it. Do it numerous times throughout the day, and in no time you will get rid of the pooch also.


Nothing works better for baseball players than to take batting practice wearing seran wrap. There is a work out for you.


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Postby Rotj » Wed Oct 13, 2004 3:08 am

Mop would definetely be the man for the answers.

I would say..a strict diet, coupled with long duration cardio (30minutes to 1 hour), along with resistance training with weights and to top it up specific ab / core work (weighted situps?).. would do the trick. You can't target specific spots on your body (unfortunately)..in fact I think the gut is one of the last places where fat is removed for guys.

Also..www.abcbodybuilding.com - best.site.ever.
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Postby Mop » Sun Oct 17, 2004 8:02 am

Lyion are you looking for a work out routine, a diet plan, how much time do you want to invest into it, what kind of equipment do you have access too, do you have any injuries that would prevent you from doing things ?


Second set of questions *deep breath* what kind of foods do you like, sweet, salty... Protienss ( chicken, red meat, fishes ) or are you more of a carbohydrate person( chips, candies potatoes, sodas, beer ), How often do you eat 1 time a day, or 10 times a day.


Just off of the top of my head basic things I can give you as ideas to think of:

-Purchase a heart rate monitor a polar a1 is fine then run like 50 bucks ( you dont need the 500 dollar model those are for very serious people it is like running with a nasa computer. I am not sure on other brands quality I have been working with polar for about 5 years and it is the best thing in the industry . To figure out your HR 'zones to stay in during cardio just take 220 - (your age) x .65 (longer cardio) .80(shorter cardio)

- Get at least 3 work outs a week combining cardio and weights - do you get bored with cardio ?

- Honestly shoot for 10 -14 reps or so when lifting, less than that is too much muscle building not condusive to weight loss, and more than that tends to fuck form up. Your weight selection should be based on how you feel on a given day, if you do 14 reps and feel like you can do 10 more- too little weight, if you are struggling at 10 to much weight - you should feel as if you can get 2 - 3 more reps at most.

- You live in CA - I would suggest a pool and a swim coach -there is swimming and then there is real swimming. I can tell you there is a difference there is being tired after 3 laps and not being tired after 40 laps ( I had this happen with in two weeks of working with a coach )

-Lastly - Medicine balls - bands/tubes - balance balls - free weights are your friends. Machines don't do a whole lot for you except hinder form and tend to put the pressure on joints instead of muscles.



Personally if you dont work out in a gym - you can have everything you need for a quality home work out with the following:

Step
Bands
Balance ball
2 Medicine balls of varied weights
Adjustable free weight bar ( I perfer body bars as they go from 1 lb to 100 )
and some form of cardio bike, run outside, walk uphill, swim, poweryoga, or even use the step for that.



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Postby Minrott » Sun Oct 17, 2004 12:01 pm

The whole eat moderate and work out some gets you just that. A pretty good body. The only way to get further than that is to constantly push yourself. The human body isn't meant to be held in a stasis of fitness. You're always either getting better, or worse. For men, usually the gut is the hardest part, because it's the last to go. You think you've already done all you should, and you want to just continue the lifestyle you've currently chosen, because you feel that if it worked for the rest of your body, it'll eventually work for your gut.

But it won't. Up your situps. Up them weekly. Twice a day rather than once 4 times a week. Abdominal muscles rebuild faster than most of your other muscles. Work abdominals into other exercises, pilates as previously mentioned do this. Hindu or regular pushups do this. Get away from "isolating" exercises, and more into full-body motions.

That, or get some body by jake magic machine. Cause it's on TV so it must work.
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Postby Lyion » Mon Oct 18, 2004 5:37 am

Hmm, I don't really track what I eat. I like food, period. What I've tried to do is stop eating late at night, up my water intake, and cut out beer.

I have a half ass diet and exercise plan, but its moreso just what I've been doing to try and get in shape. I have free weights at home, and I've been walking and doing light jogging a few times a week.

I could invest an hour a day, and honestly I'd like to. I have no injuries.

Thanks for the info. I guess I should get a stricter regiment.

Mop wrote:Lyion are you looking for a work out routine, a diet plan, how much time do you want to invest into it, what kind of equipment do you have access too, do you have any injuries that would prevent you from doing things ?


Second set of questions *deep breath* what kind of foods do you like, sweet, salty... Protienss ( chicken, red meat, fishes ) or are you more of a carbohydrate person( chips, candies potatoes, sodas, beer ), How often do you eat 1 time a day, or 10 times a day.


Just off of the top of my head basic things I can give you as ideas to think of:

-Purchase a heart rate monitor a polar a1 is fine then run like 50 bucks ( you dont need the 500 dollar model those are for very serious people it is like running with a nasa computer. I am not sure on other brands quality I have been working with polar for about 5 years and it is the best thing in the industry . To figure out your HR 'zones to stay in during cardio just take 220 - (your age) x .65 (longer cardio) .80(shorter cardio)

- Get at least 3 work outs a week combining cardio and weights - do you get bored with cardio ?

- Honestly shoot for 10 -14 reps or so when lifting, less than that is too much muscle building not condusive to weight loss, and more than that tends to fuck form up. Your weight selection should be based on how you feel on a given day, if you do 14 reps and feel like you can do 10 more- too little weight, if you are struggling at 10 to much weight - you should feel as if you can get 2 - 3 more reps at most.

- You live in CA - I would suggest a pool and a swim coach -there is swimming and then there is real swimming. I can tell you there is a difference there is being tired after 3 laps and not being tired after 40 laps ( I had this happen with in two weeks of working with a coach )

-Lastly - Medicine balls - bands/tubes - balance balls - free weights are your friends. Machines don't do a whole lot for you except hinder form and tend to put the pressure on joints instead of muscles.



Personally if you dont work out in a gym - you can have everything you need for a quality home work out with the following:

Step
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Balance ball
2 Medicine balls of varied weights
Adjustable free weight bar ( I perfer body bars as they go from 1 lb to 100 )
and some form of cardio bike, run outside, walk uphill, swim, poweryoga, or even use the step for that.



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Postby liquidstayce » Fri Oct 22, 2004 10:37 am

p'own workout- nice freebe
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Postby liquidstayce » Fri Oct 22, 2004 10:41 am

and saran wrap... LMFAO Don't bother wasting your time. All you will loose is some water weight and it is only temporary. Eating a clean diet and working out is the only way to go.
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Postby Drunnken » Fri Oct 22, 2004 11:48 am

oh shit and i've had my body wrapped in saran wrap for days now
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Postby Tae-Bo » Fri Oct 22, 2004 11:52 am

yeah that saran wrap myth is ridiculous

now i'm going to eat a grapefruit and a large pizza but it's kool cus i heard grapefruits burn fat
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Postby Lyion » Fri Oct 22, 2004 12:10 pm

Thanks for the Info!

I'm going to give that a try starting next week.

Its really appreciated!

Stickied it, since that's good stuff
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Postby Samboa » Fri Oct 22, 2004 12:38 pm

So. . .I've been working out lately as well, but I'm having a similiar problem with my gut. It looks fine when I'm standing up, the sides cut in and are defined, but when I sit down it pokes out :dunno: Any tips? Or do I just need to follow the above?
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Postby Mop » Sat Oct 23, 2004 10:00 am

I'll post a more fat burning 3 day full body plan monday or tuesday np
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Postby Minrott » Sat Oct 23, 2004 11:51 pm

Agree on the saran wrap. When I was wrestling, some of the lighter weight guys would run in rubber/neoprene suits before weigh in. That's all a vapor wrap will get you though, a temporary loss of water weight.

It's also harmful for your longterm goals. If you're dehydrating yourself that extremely, your body will tend to hold more water than it needs. Whereas, if you drink more than you need, you'll piss it all out.
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Postby Mop » Sun Oct 24, 2004 1:02 pm

I hear drumors of college and highschool kids taking ECA stacks running for 5 miles in a sweat suit in 90 degree weather then sitting in a sauana prior to weigh ins to drop like 10-15 lbs of water weight
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