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I'm willing to move Ilgauskas for a T-Mac trade, but most of the scenarios I'm seeing aren't worth it for me. Personally, I consider Ilgauskas the #1 center in the league - so far. I'm hoping that Shaq will come back soon... but as of now, Big Z is performing better than any other center.
I made an offer of mobley+Z for TMac+Fortson... but I ran numbers afterwards and it wouldn't help me at all... even if Tmac was only trade-bait, which would be a gamble.
If you want to do something like Z+Willie Green or Devin Harris for T-mac, let me know... I just don't think it's worth it to move 2 of my top stars to get an injured player and a halfway decent guy.
Also... for everyone else, I'm still betting STRONG on Shaq, so... if anyone wants to entertain me with offers for Ilgauskas - feel free. I'm also willing to move Artest and Mobley. So... for you people that are struggling from your Center spot and have loads of forwards/guards... look me up.
I made an offer of mobley+Z for TMac+Fortson... but I ran numbers afterwards and it wouldn't help me at all... even if Tmac was only trade-bait, which would be a gamble.
If you want to do something like Z+Willie Green or Devin Harris for T-mac, let me know... I just don't think it's worth it to move 2 of my top stars to get an injured player and a halfway decent guy.
Also... for everyone else, I'm still betting STRONG on Shaq, so... if anyone wants to entertain me with offers for Ilgauskas - feel free. I'm also willing to move Artest and Mobley. So... for you people that are struggling from your Center spot and have loads of forwards/guards... look me up.
Gaazy wrote:Now vonk on the other hand, is one of the most self absorbed know it alls in my memory of this site. Ive always thought so, and I still cant understand why in gods name he is here
vonkaar wrote:I'm willing to move Ilgauskas for a T-Mac trade, but most of the scenarios I'm seeing aren't worth it for me. Personally, I consider Ilgauskas the #1 center in the league - so far. I'm hoping that Shaq will come back soon... but as of now, Big Z is performing better than any other center.
I made an offer of mobley+Z for TMac+Fortson... but I ran numbers afterwards and it wouldn't help me at all... even if Tmac was only trade-bait, which would be a gamble.
If you want to do something like Z+Willie Green or Devin Harris for T-mac, let me know... I just don't think it's worth it to move 2 of my top stars to get an injured player and a halfway decent guy.
Also... for everyone else, I'm still betting STRONG on Shaq, so... if anyone wants to entertain me with offers for Ilgauskas - feel free. I'm also willing to move Artest and Mobley. So... for you people that are struggling from your Center spot and have loads of forwards/guards... look me up.
T-Mac for Z...hehe. T-Mac a proven SUPERSTAR for Z who is proven that he is injury prone

That's sort of gambling my whole future on two players recovering from injuries... Shaq and T-Mac...
let me call and get a 2nd opinion.
let me call and get a 2nd opinion.
Gaazy wrote:Now vonk on the other hand, is one of the most self absorbed know it alls in my memory of this site. Ive always thought so, and I still cant understand why in gods name he is here
Alright, that's fine.
Let it be known that on this day, Vonkaar is making the 2nd 'big' gamble of the season. The Stephen Jackson for Josh Howard was my first one and it looks like it was a bad one. Hopefully I'll have better luck on this.
please heal up t-mac!
If Ilgauskas has another 33point 18rebound game... EVEN ONE... I'm going to change your NT name to "Rzail DoggyHumper".
Let it be known that on this day, Vonkaar is making the 2nd 'big' gamble of the season. The Stephen Jackson for Josh Howard was my first one and it looks like it was a bad one. Hopefully I'll have better luck on this.
please heal up t-mac!
If Ilgauskas has another 33point 18rebound game... EVEN ONE... I'm going to change your NT name to "Rzail DoggyHumper".
Gaazy wrote:Now vonk on the other hand, is one of the most self absorbed know it alls in my memory of this site. Ive always thought so, and I still cant understand why in gods name he is here
vonkaar wrote:Alright, that's fine.
Let it be known that on this day, Vonkaar is making the 2nd 'big' gamble of the season. The Stephen Jackson for Josh Howard was my first one and it looks like it was a bad one. Hopefully I'll have better luck on this.
please heal up t-mac!
If Ilgauskas has another 33point 18rebound game... EVEN ONE... I'm going to change your NT name to "Rzail DoggyHumper".
Sorry, I guess my communication skills need some work ( Basically, what I wanted to say was...no way in hell will I make that trade straight up. I know how u looking at it...Z as one of the best centers for one of the best SG's. We do KNOW that T-Mac WILL put up SUPERSTAR numbers, day in and day out. Z on the other hand, will not.
Alrighty... probably safer for me anyway =p. I thought you were trying to sell me on the trade.
You value T-Mac way too much... he's already made the 'bust guard' list on one fantasy list. He's not working out under Van Gundy's new system... but then, Yao isn't either. That whole team is confused. He's not even a top ten player this year... I'd put several players over him ... TD, KG, Dirk, Shaq, Dwayne, LBJ, Kobe, RJ, Elton, VC, Baron, Franchise, AI, ... hell, he's probably not even a top 15 player... 'yet'.
You said you were looking for PG/C. What PG would fit the bill? Billups, Francis, Davis, Bibby and Wade are all going to have better numbers than T-Mac... and I have the top two centers atm...
Three of your top 4 players are all on the injured list... you need immediate points or you'll soon end up on the bottom. Calling Ilgauskas injury prone is laughable. Since December 2001, he's only missed 2 games. T-Mac, on the other hand, has missed 82 games in 7 years. I doubt you'll ever get what you think he's worth... no Kobe, Dirk, TD, KG or top PG... If I had T-mac, I'd be thrilled to trade him for VC or RJ. In 2004, Kobe for T-mac was even. In 2005, T-Mac has half the value of Bryant.
I don't get what you are expecting out of people in trades...
You value T-Mac way too much... he's already made the 'bust guard' list on one fantasy list. He's not working out under Van Gundy's new system... but then, Yao isn't either. That whole team is confused. He's not even a top ten player this year... I'd put several players over him ... TD, KG, Dirk, Shaq, Dwayne, LBJ, Kobe, RJ, Elton, VC, Baron, Franchise, AI, ... hell, he's probably not even a top 15 player... 'yet'.
You said you were looking for PG/C. What PG would fit the bill? Billups, Francis, Davis, Bibby and Wade are all going to have better numbers than T-Mac... and I have the top two centers atm...
Three of your top 4 players are all on the injured list... you need immediate points or you'll soon end up on the bottom. Calling Ilgauskas injury prone is laughable. Since December 2001, he's only missed 2 games. T-Mac, on the other hand, has missed 82 games in 7 years. I doubt you'll ever get what you think he's worth... no Kobe, Dirk, TD, KG or top PG... If I had T-mac, I'd be thrilled to trade him for VC or RJ. In 2004, Kobe for T-mac was even. In 2005, T-Mac has half the value of Bryant.
I don't get what you are expecting out of people in trades...
Gaazy wrote:Now vonk on the other hand, is one of the most self absorbed know it alls in my memory of this site. Ive always thought so, and I still cant understand why in gods name he is here
It's just an even split between he and Terry. Terry had a lackluster game tonight... I think Harris will start getting more and more minutes. He's more of a 'last half of the season' player anyway. He'll be huge after the all-star break =p.
Gaazy wrote:Now vonk on the other hand, is one of the most self absorbed know it alls in my memory of this site. Ive always thought so, and I still cant understand why in gods name he is here
Woot! Here's hoping.
Rz, sorry dude, but I agree with vonk about T-Mac. He's got superstar appeal but his numbers are now only starish. If this was 'Fantasy sell courtside seats'..he would be a top #5. His health makes him far too unpredictable unfortunately. I wouldn't even trade RJ now for him mainly cos of Kidd being out till December. Comparing the numbers with Z..they would be about equal. I think Silas knocked some sense into that big oaf.
Rz, sorry dude, but I agree with vonk about T-Mac. He's got superstar appeal but his numbers are now only starish. If this was 'Fantasy sell courtside seats'..he would be a top #5. His health makes him far too unpredictable unfortunately. I wouldn't even trade RJ now for him mainly cos of Kidd being out till December. Comparing the numbers with Z..they would be about equal. I think Silas knocked some sense into that big oaf.
RJ has to be the most under appreciated player in the league... he and Elton anyway. They just show up, put up the big numbers, and go home. No whining about trades... no whining about who they want on their team. They are simply 'great' players.
Gaazy wrote:Now vonk on the other hand, is one of the most self absorbed know it alls in my memory of this site. Ive always thought so, and I still cant understand why in gods name he is here
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vonkaar wrote:Personally, I consider Ilgauskas the #1 center in the league - so far. I'm hoping that Shaq will come back soon... but as of now, Big Z is performing better than any other center.
vonkaar wrote:Sorry... I know Z is ranked high but I have no respect for him (watch him explode this year...)
crazy huh?
It's amazing what a few games can do =p. But then, I didn't have League Pass last year and only caught a few Eastern Conf games.
It's amazing what a few games can do =p. But then, I didn't have League Pass last year and only caught a few Eastern Conf games.
Gaazy wrote:Now vonk on the other hand, is one of the most self absorbed know it alls in my memory of this site. Ive always thought so, and I still cant understand why in gods name he is here
you kno my most happiest thing this year in the NBA is grant hill.. i always pull for him and he is finally healthy (knock on wood). He is a guy who i hoped would be a hall of famer.. he won't be now cause of 4 years missed ( i think something like 50 total games played in the last 4 years)i always root for dukies... just cause they have had a hard time till Maggette Brand and Grant (until the injuries)
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