So a friend calls me tonight

Gargamellow · Post by **Gargamellow** » Wed Aug 30, 2006 9:42 am

Being that she's new to the area, she hasn't met a lot of new people. She knows her huge lonely house

cough WHORE cough

Phlegm · Post by **Phlegm** » Wed Aug 30, 2006 9:56 am

You should wear a fireman's helmet when you do it with her.

leah · Post by **leah** » Wed Aug 30, 2006 9:58 am

Zanchief wrote:
leah wrote:
Maeya wrote:You're a bad person. And so is she. I can't believe you're both so casual about having an affair. She has a boyfriend and like it or not, she is involved in a relationship. If she's so lonely and unhappy, she needs to break it off with that man.

And people wonder why 50% of marriages fail today. No honor, no committment, no loyalty.

Damnit I hate people who cheat.

amen.

i have never cheated, and will never cheat.

i've been cheated on, though, and it's the worst feeling ever. nothing hurts more than that kind of betrayal.

do what you want, and i'm sure you will, but it's most certainly not the right thing to do.

-edit for spelling mistake hehe-

But it's not really his moral quandary, it's hers. The only thing he should be asking himself is whether he wants to sleep with a chick thatâ€™s immoral.

A married woman on the other hand is different.

fair enough. i definitely see your point--she's a selfish, immoral tramp. but you're right, it's jaz's decision whether or not to take part in that kind of stuff.

allow me to rephrase and expand upon my position.

i've never cheated on a significant other in the past. i will never cheat on jjoshua... never in a million years. but i have been the other woman. jaz, you can do whatever you want here. after all, it's not your significant other getting hurt, and you get some action out of it. however, just know that it's definitely not the right thing to do... largely because no matter what the chick says, there is pretty much no such thing as no-strings-attached sex--one or the other of you will inevitably develop feelings--but also because even if the sex is no-strings, someone will inevitably get hurt. maybe that doesn't matter to you, though. maybe you're just looking for some action; so fine, go for it. but if you have a decent conscience it will eventually get the better of you, and you'll end up feeling like dogshit too.

in my situation, i entered into the relationship because i had major feelings for this guy. eventually, though, i think two people in the triangle ended up getting hurt--the girlfriend for obvious reasons (though she never dumped him... i think they might still be together, though he still regularly cheats on her), and me because i was just the girl on the side--he was never mine, and he was just using me. that is a hard pill to swallow once you get past the emotions you have for the person and the emotions you get from getting caught up in such a relationship. in fact, the only person to come out on top was the guy. it was a shitty situation, and he is a shitty person. hence my position that no, you should not get involved with this girl.

i don't regret having the relationship with said guy... i have few regrets in my life (seriously, maybe three or four) and none of them are serious. these things happen for a reason--in this case, to show me how not to behave in relationships. after that experience, i learned not to cheat, not to take part in cheating, and that travis hill is a manipulative, soulless bastard. :P

just don't do it. it's not worth it, trust me.

Guntaag Gorefeast · Post by **Guntaag Gorefeast** » Wed Aug 30, 2006 10:01 am

I do agree this is mostly the other girls dillema, but mr Jazz, if my best friend came to me with this question, i would say the same thing - walk away.

The fact you came to this board to say something means that something in your head clicked when this happened. It isnt right and you definately know it dude. And what happened to that other girl you were dating? Wasnt that long ago and i dont believe you can be really over her anyways. Dont nail this girl for the sake of getting laid, thats my advice and thats just me. I wouldnt date alot of the girls in hs that approached me because i knew they just wanted me for my rod. Most folks arent like me though i suppose. The fact shes livng with a dude makes it even more complicated and worse imo though.

Gargamellow · Post by **Gargamellow** » Wed Aug 30, 2006 10:03 am

You should wear a fireman's helmet when you do it with her.

Maeya · Post by **Maeya** » Wed Aug 30, 2006 10:41 am

Ginzburgh wrote:I laugh at all of you who are judging people you don't even know.

I assume you're just being facetious, because you understand how hypocritical that statement is, right?

Harrison · Post by **Harrison** » Wed Aug 30, 2006 10:46 am

Do it, from behind.

Jazendar · Post by **Jazendar** » Wed Aug 30, 2006 11:07 am

Well basically, her boyfriend is off on trips for sometimes 2months +, comes back for 3 days, and is off again. Right now he's in alaska, i guess he's had casual sex and hasn't been treating her all that well for a while. But her being 29, going to college from the army, and doesn't want to get a job to move out, is in a sticky situation. She hasn't seen him in awhile, doesn't know anybody, he cheats on her quite a bit, and acts like it's nothing. So i guess she's just kind of become casual about it to. I do have a a lot of respect for relationships, but for one where they're so distant but under 1 roof (not even for more than 3 days every 3 months), and she needs things he can't give her. Why not step in? I don't even think I personally would call it a relationship, he shuts his fone off while he goes to the bars with the FF'ers and cheats on his girl while she's at home trying to call him, staying up late worrying, whatever.

So, if it was a respectable guy, i might think twice, or 1 1/2 times, but this guys worse if not moreso than her. No problems here, she shows up in an hour.

Maeya · Post by **Maeya** » Wed Aug 30, 2006 11:13 am

Ooohh....that's right.

I completely forgot that two wrongs make a right. If he's cheating on her, then OF COURSE it's ok to seek retaliation and sleep around behind his back. That's the key to a healthy, trusting relationship.

Granh · Post by **Granh** » Wed Aug 30, 2006 11:14 am

Hopefully she's just looking for an outlet. If you don't have any moral issues with it yourself, go for it. If you turn her down, she'll find someone that is willing.

Now, the thing that would be an issue is if she's *not* just looking to get laid. If she really digs *you* and wants more than just a good deep dicking; stay far far away. No matter how normal she may seem, every woman has a little bit of crazy lurking inside.

Jazendar · Post by **Jazendar** » Wed Aug 30, 2006 11:19 am

Most women have a crazy bit of lurking. Learned that from my most previous. And no she doesn't want anything more, she's past all that kind of stuff anyway being 29. She's learned plenty and it will be interesting. And no, 2 wrongs don't make a right, but he treats her like his pinpall, never talks to her but once a week if that. She feels like she wants to get out but she can't because she can't go to school full time and get a job full time to support an apt.

And that's a big fuck no to pulling a naethyn and letting her movein. Nothing more than what we discussed. Probably just a one time thing too.

Harrison · Post by **Harrison** » Wed Aug 30, 2006 11:20 am

Make me proud, nut in her face.

Insanityfair · Post by **Insanityfair** » Wed Aug 30, 2006 11:28 am

Interesting...she is in college...doesn't want to get a job, so she can't move out...sounds like she's working on a new person to leech from.

Ginzburgh · Post by **Ginzburgh** » Wed Aug 30, 2006 11:30 am

The heart wants what it wants.

And Jaz, don't listen to any of these nay saying, negative Nancy bitches. Most of them are trifling crybaby skanks who are incapable of looking at the situation objectively because they've been cheated on or fucked over. Rather than act like adults and move on they brood on the past and project their biased opinions whenever the situation arises.

Boo-hoo. Get over yourselves and quit judging other peoples lives because I am pretty sure most of you sin just as much as the next guy.

Maeya · Post by **Maeya** » Wed Aug 30, 2006 11:34 am

Somebody help, Ginz is making me mad at the internet.

leah · Post by **leah** » Wed Aug 30, 2006 11:35 am

me too :\

Ginzburgh · Post by **Ginzburgh** » Wed Aug 30, 2006 11:35 am

Like I said, women are irrational.

leah · Post by **leah** » Wed Aug 30, 2006 11:36 am

those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it, fuckface.

Ginzburgh · Post by **Ginzburgh** » Wed Aug 30, 2006 11:39 am

those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it, fuckface.

So why have people been cheating on each other since the beginning of time? You'd think we would have learned by now.

I think you just wanted to use that fancy quote to make yourself sound smarter. How about an original thought next time.

Harrison · Post by **Harrison** » Wed Aug 30, 2006 11:41 am

The only reason I say he shouldn't give a shit is because she doesn't.

He's just a penis for her, and should be.

leah · Post by **leah** » Wed Aug 30, 2006 11:55 am

hehe yes i used that quote to make myself sound smarter. how observant of you to notice!

have you cheated on someone, ginzburgh? have you been the "other" in someone else's relationship? have you been cheated on?

Diekan · Post by **Diekan** » Wed Aug 30, 2006 11:58 am

Jazendar wrote:But she's a little different than the one who would blow up and tell him everything. He's the one kind of answering to her almost it would seem, she's been on her own since she was like 17 from the east coast, moving around different places, was in the army as a medic or whatever, she's an ambitious beautiful girl, and is very upfront about most things. But I mean, she vented or whatever sometiems about her boyfriend and how he can never be home and how lonely she is. She just kinda wants it and that's it, no obligations or anything, she's using me =/

Dude you just said in your first post you've basically only known her for a a couple of few months now...

My son, allow me to read from The Holy Diekan (King Joe version).

Diekan ch 10 verse 5: "My soneth, Thou canst knoweth what woman will do surely unless thee spend timeth in relationshipeth witheth womaneth."

In english that means... no matter how good of friends you are / think you are with a chick you will NEVER know what type of person she really is until you've been in a romantic relationship with her - likewise the same is true for women... they'll never know what type of person a dude is until they get into a serious relationship. Of course there are those rare exceptions to the rule like chicks and dudes that have been friends since birth - but, honestly, those situations are far and few in between.

Bottom line is this, she can feed you all the shit in the world about what type of person she is, but it means jack. You've only known her for a few months - do you REALLY think you know her that well?

She's already shown you what type of person she is. Her man is off working, bringing home the cake and she's out throwing pussy around behind his back. OBVIOUSLY she's not the sweet little ball of morality that she has you believing. With that said, how can you be completely sure she isn't going to throw you in her man's face when they get into a battle of words? He calls her a bitch and she retaliates with "oh ya, well I fucked so and so!" Or, as I said before, they make up and she tells him all about you in an effort to regain his trust. Either way, you could potentially be in a VERY bad situation - either you get beat down, or killed. Maybe you'll get lucky and nothing will happen at all - but are you willing to take that chance for a piece of ass where there's soooo much ass out there to be had?

You're young and you're not going to listen to advice from those who've got a bit more experience... but it'll be a good learning experience.

Also, you're going to have to deal with that little nervous feeling that's going to hang around in the pit of your stomach every time you see her. "Did she tell him?" "Does he know?" You can that wont happen.. but it will

Not to mention your friendship with her is pretty much over now. If you turn it down, she'll take it as an insult... if you take it you can never go back to the friendship you had before... it never works.

You're young, there's plenty of pussay out there - despite all my rants and raves about chicks - the real deal to getting laid is just paying attention to them and listening to what they're saying - or at least pretend like you're listening. It's just a numbers game, plain and simple.

Anyway, always remember what goes around comes around. You're going to cheat with a woman who's got someone - carma is a motherfucker... going to suck when you fall in love and some other dude does it to you, ya know?

Maeya · Post by **Maeya** » Wed Aug 30, 2006 12:03 pm

Good post, Diekan

Gargamellow · Post by **Gargamellow** » Wed Aug 30, 2006 12:04 pm

if she had morals she would leave him before cheating..two wrongs don't make a right

leah · Post by **leah** » Wed Aug 30, 2006 12:12 pm

surprisingly enough, i agree with a lot of what dieken is saying.

the friendship will most likely be toast after you hook up... it will get awkward, or feelings will come into play, or someone will find out and shit will explode.

and believe me, it will be awkward, for true!

why we're all advising you is beyond me; none of us know this chick or her boyfriend, and for all we know, them breaking up because of this situation might be for the better. all i'm saying is that from a moral standpoint, and as someone who's been through a very very similar situation, i don't think that it is the right thing to do. you're going to do what you want to do regardless of any of our opinions, and that's fine--we're all free to make our own choices, just as Girl is free to decide to cheat on her bf and ginzburgh is free to be a dickface (i love you ginz, i mean that). so do what you will, and best of luck to you. i hope things don't turn out as badly as i think they will.