Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 9:44 pm
What would he stand to gain?
Grats Canada!
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u ... ics_col_36
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Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2005 12:18 am
Do the headlines get any better than this?
Grats Canada!
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u ... ics_col_36
Grats Canada!
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u ... ics_col_36
Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2005 5:12 am
I'd take any sort of poll with a grain of salt. The ones in November had Kerry beating Bush, remember?
That said, I'd love to see the liberals get tossed out. It'd be better for Canada and the U.S.
That said, I'd love to see the liberals get tossed out. It'd be better for Canada and the U.S.
Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2005 7:42 am
How would it be better?
The last time we had a Tory government, they signed the Fuck us up the ass deal known as free trade~
You know, the deal that made it illegal for canadians to put import taxes on american goods, yet allowed americans to continue to tariff canadian goods, sounds like a great deal!
The last time we had a Tory government, they signed the Fuck us up the ass deal known as free trade~
You know, the deal that made it illegal for canadians to put import taxes on american goods, yet allowed americans to continue to tariff canadian goods, sounds like a great deal!
Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2005 9:45 am
That deal had exceptions and thats a narrow view of it. Canada would WIN in that agreement, anyway you slice it. Its different from NAFTA, but neither deal 'hurt' Canada at all.
Canada's GDP is $ 957,700,000,000
The US GDP is > 11 Trillion
The conservatives would make Canda more economically strong, create more opportunities, and by doing so help the US since the gaggle of professionals trying to escape your Country wouldn't have to anymore.
It's probably too much to hope for, though, so we'll continue to be flooded by Canadians, both professional and business minded who really want to work hard and to succeed, versus the socialists who do not understand economics and real free trade.
Given Canada's terrible corruption, this view pushed by the Canadian media does not surprise me at all.
Canada's GDP is $ 957,700,000,000
The US GDP is > 11 Trillion
The conservatives would make Canda more economically strong, create more opportunities, and by doing so help the US since the gaggle of professionals trying to escape your Country wouldn't have to anymore.
It's probably too much to hope for, though, so we'll continue to be flooded by Canadians, both professional and business minded who really want to work hard and to succeed, versus the socialists who do not understand economics and real free trade.
Given Canada's terrible corruption, this view pushed by the Canadian media does not surprise me at all.
Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2005 10:01 am
rofl
if you say so sparky
if you say so sparky
Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2005 10:12 am
Seriously, calling Canada corrupt compared to a country who started a war over oil?
makes me giggle all the live long day
makes me giggle all the live long day
Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2005 10:16 am
Tikker - it's been said time after time.... if this Iraq war was about oil why are gas prices HIGHER now than before? Why are we more worried than ever about petroleum shortages?
It wasn't about oil... That stupid argument holds no water. Stop being an idiot and at least bash the war for what it was: a military attack inspired by bad intelligence and political necessity. See how easy that is?
It wasn't about oil... That stupid argument holds no water. Stop being an idiot and at least bash the war for what it was: a military attack inspired by bad intelligence and political necessity. See how easy that is?
Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2005 12:00 pm
My stalker is correct.
Gas prices here are up to 2.20/g
Before the war I believe they were at 1.45'ish...
Kind of throws out the whole war for oil thing now doesn't it?
Gas prices here are up to 2.20/g
Before the war I believe they were at 1.45'ish...
Kind of throws out the whole war for oil thing now doesn't it?
Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2005 12:27 pm
daaamn, they are 1.90 tops here. Lower in my hometown. Was 1.20-30 before the war....geez at $2 a gallon, I'd just stop driving 
Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2005 12:47 pm
So much for our war for Oil...
http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-g ... &cset=true
It was another week of records for California and U.S. gasoline prices as costs at the pump in several cities jumped by more than 10 cents a gallon, the federal government said Monday.
California's average price for self-serve regular gasoline jumped 12.8 cents in the last week to $2.592 a gallon, the second consecutive week that the state's gas average has reached a fresh high. California motorists are paying 43.5 cents more than they were a year ago.
The average U.S. retail price for regular-grade gasoline rose 6.3 cents to $2.28 a gallon, the fourth consecutive weekly record, according to the government's weekly survey of 800 service stations. The U.S. average is 46.3 cents higher than a year ago.
The U.S. average is forecast to rise more and reach a monthly peak of $2.35 a gallon in May, according to the Energy Information Administration, the Energy Department's analytical arm.
http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-g ... &cset=true
It was another week of records for California and U.S. gasoline prices as costs at the pump in several cities jumped by more than 10 cents a gallon, the federal government said Monday.
California's average price for self-serve regular gasoline jumped 12.8 cents in the last week to $2.592 a gallon, the second consecutive week that the state's gas average has reached a fresh high. California motorists are paying 43.5 cents more than they were a year ago.
The average U.S. retail price for regular-grade gasoline rose 6.3 cents to $2.28 a gallon, the fourth consecutive weekly record, according to the government's weekly survey of 800 service stations. The U.S. average is 46.3 cents higher than a year ago.
The U.S. average is forecast to rise more and reach a monthly peak of $2.35 a gallon in May, according to the Energy Information Administration, the Energy Department's analytical arm.
Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2005 12:54 pm
So, what's the reason for the oil prices going up?
Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2005 12:56 pm
People going on vacations. Damn you and your Orlando trip, Tossica!
Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2005 1:08 pm
Mercy Me!
I'm in agreement with both Lyion and Ugzugz! This is a momentous occaision! 
I'm in agreement with both Lyion and Ugzugz! This is a momentous occaision!
Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2005 1:09 pm
The war was not over oil thing - or the damn Tossica thing?
Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2005 1:29 pm
Lyion wrote:Given Canada's terrible corruption, this view pushed by the Canadian media does not surprise me at all.
I'm glad you're cool with the supposed American Liberal media bias as well.
Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2005 2:54 pm
Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2005 4:07 pm
The Canadian people are more progressive on cultural issues than the US is. That's just a reflection of the two countries. Obviously there are variations across Canada, where Albertans are generally more conservative. But consider that of the four federal political parties, three of them are left of center, and polled 64.8% of the vote nationally versus 29.8% for the Tories.
Remember that the Liberals have governed Canada for something like 55 of the last 70 years. Ever since the Tories got taken over by the nutbar/fundy Reform Party, they made themselves even less electable as a national party. Only when they return to mainstream politics can the Tories expect to have a shot at governing as anything other than a backlash party.
Even if the Tories win a minority government, they won't win more than a couple seats in Quebec (if any). The Tories would get in for a few months, then get turfed when they tried to pass a right-wing budget by the NDP, Liberals and Bloc Quebecois. They would need to win a majority government to hold power any amount of time, and they simply won't win crap in Quebec - the backlash against the Liberals will go to the Bloc, not the Tories. Ontario will split, with rural ridings going Tory and urban staying largely Liberal. BC might swing Tory or go more NDP.
Considering the Liberals have been running a budget *surplus* for several years at this point it's kind of funny having Americans criticize them for being profligate.
--R.
Remember that the Liberals have governed Canada for something like 55 of the last 70 years. Ever since the Tories got taken over by the nutbar/fundy Reform Party, they made themselves even less electable as a national party. Only when they return to mainstream politics can the Tories expect to have a shot at governing as anything other than a backlash party.
Even if the Tories win a minority government, they won't win more than a couple seats in Quebec (if any). The Tories would get in for a few months, then get turfed when they tried to pass a right-wing budget by the NDP, Liberals and Bloc Quebecois. They would need to win a majority government to hold power any amount of time, and they simply won't win crap in Quebec - the backlash against the Liberals will go to the Bloc, not the Tories. Ontario will split, with rural ridings going Tory and urban staying largely Liberal. BC might swing Tory or go more NDP.
Considering the Liberals have been running a budget *surplus* for several years at this point it's kind of funny having Americans criticize them for being profligate.
--R.