Legality of "No CD" cracks

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Legality of "No CD" cracks

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This is probably a stupid question, but:

I don't play much on my PC, but I've noticed with two new games that I've purchased that I was unable to make functioning backups using Nero 6. I was directed to patches that would skip the CD authorization, but I was wondering if doing this is Kosher. I pay for all my software and would rather not do something questionable.
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IMO if you purchased the game, there is nothing wrong with using no-cd patches. I consider it protecting yourself, should that CD every become unusable you have no way of using the software that you paid for and have every right to use.
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Check the EULA.

I really hate games that require you to put the CD in the drive to play them. Now that 200 gig hard drives are under 100 dollars, that time is long past.
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if you own the original media there's absolutely nothing wrong with no cd crack
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Post by Jimmy Durante »

Thanks for the posts. Like Gidan wrote, my main concern is having one of the play CDs become unusable and finding myself SOL.

I really don't understand the point. The people who pirate will always find ways around the CD authorization and the only people who get inconvenienced are the ones who buy their software legally :dunno:
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it discourages lazy thieves
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I'm on a segue here but we bought some cd/dvd covers a couple weeks ago (for some of the kids movies). Those things work like a charm and since we explained to the kids what they did the kids haven't messed with them or tried to take them off. I highly recommend them.
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I have no clue what you're trying to say, or how it even remotely fits in with this conversation
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I said it was a segue!

They were talking about CDs becoming unusable, presumably thru scratches. I was talking about http://www.gamestop.com/product.asp?coo ... _id=801784
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it costs more to protect the cd's than to burn new ones!
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A dollar a disc is cheap compared to the cost of replacing it plus you don't have to deal with write protections.
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I've now backed up 142 DVD's at a total cost of $0

If I decide to burn them to DVD it'll cost about $0.33 per movie
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How old is your child again?
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10 months now

the main thing with how I have it set up, is that the CD's/DVD's are only ever used once, then from that point on it's all accessed via the network

With the copywrite laws in Canada, it's legal for me to go get a DVD from the library(or cd) and then burn myself a copy (or in this case, re-encode it to DivX and store it on the harddrive)

I've spent literally, $0 to own legal copies of 140ish movies, and 1100 CD's
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With your setup it is much easier. However, most people don't have things like that and so I recommend the sheaths as being less hassle. :)
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I think everyone should try to do my setup tho


I'm biased tho =P
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Post by kaharthemad »

as far as NO CD cracks it is legal as long as you have the masters or the master license of the disk i.e. the cd key. the best place for these no cd cracks is

http://www.gamecopyworld.com

been using them for years.
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it's true
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What are you using to connect the TV's to the Server? I assume the item below the router is a switch of some sort, is it just an every day switch or something from you tv service provider
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it's an old 3com superstacker 100mb switch

as for the tv to server connection, I have a pair of Prismiq's
they're basically a scaled down embedded linux box that allow me to stream any media from my server, to them (movies, music, internet radio, webpages, AIM/Yahoo chat)

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Tikker wrote:10 months now

the main thing with how I have it set up, is that the CD's/DVD's are only ever used once, then from that point on it's all accessed via the network

With the copywrite laws in Canada, it's legal for me to go get a DVD from the library(or cd) and then burn myself a copy (or in this case, re-encode it to DivX and store it on the harddrive)

I've spent literally, $0 to own legal copies of 140ish movies, and 1100 CD's


Are you going to be one of those fruitloop soccor parents that refers to their kids ages in months after they've turned 3 years old?

"My kid is 749 months old now"
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I need to get my hands on 2 of those for my house. Would be nice to get my DVD collection onto my server.
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Diekan wrote:
Are you going to be one of those fruitloop soccor parents that refers to their kids ages in months after they've turned 3 years old?

"My kid is 749 months old now"


not a fucking chance, I hate that shit

after he turns a year old, then he's just a year and change

Gidan wrote:I need to get my hands on 2 of those for my house. Would be nice to get my DVD collection onto my server.


I picked up both of them from Ebay
one was $52, the other was $89, but came with the wireless keyboard
1 was used, the other(and keyboard) brand new still in the shrink wrap

they're really nice, but they're not supported particularly well. but if you do end up with one lemme know, and we can take a look at trying to update the divX codec (it plays divX 1/2/3/4/5, but only officially supports divX 1/2. )
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