SWG getting COMPLETELY revamped.....

xKALECx · Post by **xKALECx** » Thu Nov 03, 2005 5:01 pm

Yes I stole this info from the FOH boards. Check this out....

http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=nge_ann&message.id=4

and

http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=TestCenter&message.id=146429

If you read more, they are completely resetting the classes, introducing levels, stopping the changing of classes at will, and adding actual content. All players will be starting over with their 'toons, and will be rewarded for previous xp etc... Sounds like a BOLD move on Sony's part.....

Post by **Martrae** » Thu Nov 03, 2005 5:13 pm

That's because the last "combat upgrade" lost them too many customers.

runamonk · Post by **runamonk** » Thu Nov 03, 2005 5:37 pm

Boards are down, I can't see anything. :/

runamonk · Post by **runamonk** » Thu Nov 03, 2005 5:45 pm

ah interesting. I still won't play it though.. hehe

Ginzburgh · Post by **Ginzburgh** » Thu Nov 03, 2005 10:56 pm

I cant believe they are still pouring money into that project

Post by **Lyion** » Fri Nov 04, 2005 7:42 am

It has the 'Star Wars' name. Look how much the prequels made, and they're complete ass.

Quality doesn't equate to cash. You can compare the dollars made by Episode III, a mediocre film, to Serenity, an awesome flick and see that easily.

They are making Jedi easily accessible to anyone, and making the game simpler and less convoluted. It sucks since it was one of the only non EQ clones out there, but it seems most gamers want EQ clones and not original MMOs.

mofish · Post by **mofish** » Fri Nov 04, 2005 7:43 am

This update looks interesting. I have the game, and an account due to All-Access, but have never played.

From what I gather they are borrowing some code from Battlefront or something. I know combat is going from turn-based to real-time. Should be interesting. Maybe like an MMO KOTOR or something?

Adivina · Post by **Adivina** » Fri Nov 04, 2005 7:45 am

Interesting, I stopped playing my Creature Handler once I got to master because there just was nothing else to do, maybe this will actually make the game fun for people again. Not that I will reup my subscription though.

Post by **Martrae** » Fri Nov 04, 2005 7:52 am

CH is going bye-bye as well as BE. They are paring it to 9 classes and once you pick a class that is it, no more regrinding a different one.

Adivina · Post by **Adivina** » Fri Nov 04, 2005 9:01 am

They are killing off the CH and BE classes completely? Interesting.

Post by **Lyion** » Fri Nov 04, 2005 12:20 pm

Martrae wrote:CH is going bye-bye as well as BE. They are paring it to 9 classes and once you pick a class that is it, no more regrinding a different one.

In other words, it is going from a skill based system to a class based one.

kaharthemad · Post by **kaharthemad** » Sat Nov 05, 2005 9:05 am

what pisses me off is they have told the Bounty Hunters..."No more Stalking Jedi"

so the bounty hunters get to hunt some weak ass NPC, and even spanky Jr. can wield a baloney slicer of doom. They should rename the fucking game to Jedi World and get it over with.

Think I am going to reup just so I can aggrevate flames on the jedi board.

Thon · Post by **Thon** » Sat Nov 05, 2005 1:14 pm

i played the game a little, got master bounty hunter like it was lvl 28 in EQ. then found out bounty hunters had nothing to fucking do.

the space combat looks interesting but i'll just buy battlefront 2 =/

kaharthemad · Post by **kaharthemad** » Sat Nov 05, 2005 2:43 pm

i have been reading the SWG boards. I have never seen flames like that.

Perhaps the next Veteran reward they put in will be a jar of vaseline.

After a screwing like that I like to be atleast kissed.

Post by **Lyion** » Sun Nov 06, 2005 9:37 am

You aren't playing SWG, Kahar. Neither are 90% of the people who bought the game, because it is so convoluted.

These are good changes. The few thousand who like the current game will be incensed, but in the end this could save SWG.

The game was dying, and needed new life. This is as good a chance as any.

Post by **Martrae** » Sun Nov 06, 2005 5:04 pm

Yeah, but they are doing the usual SWG thing and going live on the 15th. That's only 10-11 days to test it so you know it's gonna be buggy as hell.

kaharthemad · Post by **kaharthemad** » Sun Nov 06, 2005 5:05 pm

Lyion wrote:
These are good changes. The few thousand who like the current game will be incensed, but in the end this could save SWG.

The game was dying, and needed new life. This is as good a chance as any.

Still stupid man. Locking down the game so you can only have one character slot then also locking it down so you can't respec to a new class like before? Sounds kinda fucking stupid to me.

Killing off the Creature Hnadler right after Trials of Obi Wan announced to them that there were "New Changes" they would enjoy and allowing them to train a CL80 creature for the first time.

CH's run out enmasse to buy this piece of shit to find out 2 weeks later "Hi, enjoy your level 80 creature mother fucker, cause in about 2 weeks we are deleting your whole fucking class."

Frankly not telling anyone about it is BS. The way most people found out about it was by some poor ass correspndant coming on and posting after he saw it at convention. after 2 weeks of silence from the Devs they now annouce these changes they are all 'excited' about.

I am beginning to think when devs say 'we are excited about the coming change' thats dev speak for.. "we think you are screwed."

So i dont play the game as mucjh as I did before. I still log on from time to time to look around and chat with people. lets looks at the classes they screwed...Remember SOE announce that the most played class3es were getting a revamp while most of the classes noone played were getting the axe.

CH: SOE announces that this class is the bottom of the classes...NOOONE plays it..i Believe the quote was only 3 percent of the population. Hoever looking at the Astromech ratings on SWG it is at number 8. just below teras kasi.

TK: lets kill off the most played class in game...yah!!

SL: Squad leader I am not too upset about. However they are keeping the class. a class that on the astromech rating hits the bottom of the fish barrel as far as combat classes goes, gets a revamp and gets to stay. Frankyly this class is ass no matter how you look at it.

Pikemen/Fencer: another class getting the axe. both quite popular.

Jedi: well I am kinda laughing at this one cause Jedi got what they wanted...no more hunting by bounty hunters. However now EVERYONE will have a Jedi to have and to hold.

Bounty Hunter: No more specialization in the world...you are now just a bounty hunter. No more hunting other PC's, no more hunting Jedi. those days are gone and now you have to deal with a AI that thinks about as quick as a retarded kid in the middle of a pot induced stupor. The Non jedi bounties were a joke before now they are even more so.

Carbineer: No more raid runners
Pistoleer: No more bleed attacks and no more you

Rifleman: No more snipers

Combat Medic: no more Crowd control attacks and no more emergency patch ups

these are just a small portion of the 'very few' this patch attacks.

Mind you Lyion I am happy they are patching just to get rid of Kilger one more time...but still I think this game is being put on the PS3 and they are dumbing it down for it.

Post by **Lyion** » Sun Nov 06, 2005 8:48 pm

The people playtesting the new system are giving it rave reviews so far. We'll see, I guess. I might actually start playing.

kaharthemad · Post by **kaharthemad** » Sun Nov 06, 2005 11:30 pm

The ones that are not on the shaft job list are giving it good reviews. I think alot of the people such as the Creature Hnadlers would be fine if they just allowed them to keep thier pets. not allowed them to attack with them but allowed them to still be able to be pulled out of the data pad and told to do tricks.

Alot of the CH's i know are more upset about this aspect then losing the class. These guys have had their pets for 2 years or so and feel betrayed by SWg for losing this aspect of the game. I can see thier point in the matter.

As far as the bounty hunters go they are mostly upset because the NPC missions are weak at best. the tracking of the bounty and become trivial to them.

Thon · Post by **Thon** » Mon Nov 07, 2005 12:12 am

ya man, everyone wants a 50 foot Rancor to roll over and fetch, not to rape people.

Post by **Martrae** » Mon Nov 07, 2005 12:16 am

I just think it's pretty shady the way they slipped this in on people. No warning, not even a coherent first announcement about the changes. They didn't even give their class correspondents a heads up.

Post by **Lyion** » Mon Nov 07, 2005 7:27 am

Yep, it would've been much more ethical to tell people about the changes before the expansion went live.

However, I think the expansion was a litmus test for these changes, and once SOE realized nobody was buying ToOW, they knew they needed massive changes fast.

People will bitch regardless. The simple thing is will this make the game good. it was vastly mediocre before, and I'm hoping it does.

Post by **Martrae** » Mon Nov 07, 2005 7:40 am

We're downloading the TC now to see what it's like.

I thought I read somewhere that they've been planning this for a year, tho.

kaharthemad · Post by **kaharthemad** » Mon Nov 07, 2005 7:45 am

And it was announced yesterday late..SWG for the XBOX360 and Playstation!!! Woot

Tacks · Post by **Tacks** » Mon Nov 07, 2005 10:00 am

Cliffnotes please. I hated the game when I tried it during the test period. Is everyone starting over from level 1 now? Give me highlights for someone who's a complete noob to the game.