So it hasnt all been a dream

mofish · Post by **mofish** » Sat May 13, 2006 2:13 pm

I was afraid I was going to wake up!

:bowdown:

Phlegm · Post by **Phlegm** » Sat May 13, 2006 2:19 pm

The Saints still going to suck this year. :wink:

mofish · Post by **mofish** » Sat May 13, 2006 2:23 pm

Phlegm wrote:The Saints still going to suck this year.

Hell no. We will win twice as many games!

6-10 here we come who dat! :eyecrazy:

mofish · Post by **mofish** » Sat May 13, 2006 2:24 pm

but seriously...

Saints had lots of problems last year that, imo, obfuscated the talent on the team. I think we'll be fine. Good enough for an 8-8 season at least, barring catastrophe (again).

Phlegm · Post by **Phlegm** » Sat May 13, 2006 2:25 pm

They should do a lot better this year with the addition of Bush and Brees.

mofish · Post by **mofish** » Sat May 13, 2006 2:29 pm

And dont forget the new coach. This guy is gonna be a good one. If hes not it wont be because the team wasnt in shape and disciplined. Already fixing all of Haslett's mistakes.

And a little humor too.

Reggie had some stiffness in his groin at practice. Peyton says 'Hes been sitting in a limousine too long.' lol

Phlegm · Post by **Phlegm** » Sat May 13, 2006 4:38 pm

Is McAllister going to back playing this year after the ACL surgery?

mofish · Post by **mofish** » Sat May 13, 2006 5:37 pm

Yeah he is healthy. Though never know with knees.

Really hope he comes back as the amazing deuce rather than the fat out of shape deuce.

This is what I mean by the amazing deuce:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=xLHEV7TlitY& ... s%20saints

Post by **Lyion** » Sat May 13, 2006 6:58 pm

I predict the Saints go 8-8 this year and just miss the playoffs.

If Carolina tanks, New Orleans could be the Cinderalla team this year.

Kitao · Post by **Kitao** » Sat May 13, 2006 10:02 pm

My favorite is when Deuce loses his helmet, and proceeds to jab the guy in the eyes.

mofish · Post by **mofish** » Sat May 13, 2006 10:12 pm

Yeah that run was awesome. Lose my helmet and run out of bounds?

How about lose my helmet and stiff arm your ass!

Phlegm · Post by **Phlegm** » Sat May 13, 2006 10:33 pm

How come they never call hand to the face on the ball carrier?

Tikker · Post by **Tikker** » Sun May 14, 2006 12:44 am

i dunno, i hate double standard rules like that

Spliffs · Post by **Spliffs** » Sun May 14, 2006 1:47 pm

It's all about intent. On a block or a tackle, hands to the face is part of an attempt to stop momentum at the point of contact. For a back, he is trying to get away from contact and not stop momentum, so the potential for injury is greatly reduced. You're never going to see a guy dragging a dude down the field with him by the face mask. It's all about spirit of the rule.

mofish · Post by **mofish** » Sun May 14, 2006 1:59 pm

Ive watched that deuce video like 10 times now. It makes me tingly :-x

Jay · Post by **Jay** » Sun May 14, 2006 2:57 pm

I'm not a huge football fan by any means but taht Deuce video was the shit.

Jay · Post by **Jay** » Wed May 17, 2006 11:39 am

Oh and I think Deuce is done. No way he'll do anything this year with Bush on the team. I just watched a Reggie video and this kid is the next Barry Sanders.

mofish · Post by **mofish** » Wed May 17, 2006 1:11 pm

The only thing I can hope for is something like what happened with Edge. He tore his knee up and came back stronger even. Who knows?

If Deuce is healthy and not sucking he'll get more rushes this season than Bush. Im afraid you might be right and his glory days might be over though :cry:

Post by **Arlos** » Wed May 17, 2006 2:32 pm

I dunno that Bush'll be Barry Sanders. He's not as big as Barry was, so he'll a) not break tackles quite as well and b) wear down faster so he won't get as many carries as Barry.

Honestly, with the possible exception of Jim Brown (who I never have seen play, just going off what the old timers I know who DID see him play say), I think Barry Sanders is the greatest running back to ever play in the NFL. It's an absolute tragedy that the Lions wouldn't agree to move him, and he had to retire to get away from them. He wanted to keep playing, just NOT for the Lions.

Bush will be really good, maybe even Marshall Faulk good. But will he be LT good? And LT's not even up there with Barry...

-Arlos

mofish · Post by **mofish** » Wed May 17, 2006 2:42 pm

Dont count it out is all Im saying. He was (arguably, not fact) better than anyone has ever been so far in his career.

He might be a few pound shy of Barry, but he is faster. And has infinitely better hands.

Random Amazing Bush Statistic : He lost 3 fumbles total at USC. One of them being that ill advised lateral in the championship game.

Post by **Arlos** » Wed May 17, 2006 2:54 pm

Actually, Sanders was faster. His pro day workout in College, he was running late from an awards ceremony, got there, threw on a pair of sweats, stretched for just a minute or two, then went out and threw down a 4.37 40. Bush, in carefully prepared conditions & situation, had a 4.4.

Barry was actually pretty short, but he was built like a tank. Gah, you gotta wonder what his numbers would be if he'd played on a real team. Against the Lions, Defenses would put 9 men up in the box and STILL couldn't stop him.

I dunno if Barry really had bad hands or not, to be honest. The way the Lions offense was designed, they almost never used their RBs as pass catchers. I don't recall him as being at all bad at it when they DID throw him the ball, though. Who knows, you put him in the 49ers offense where Roger Craig got 1500 rushing & 1000 receiving, and Barry might've had 2000/1000. (Egad, can you imagine that team? Montana, Rice & Taylor at WR, Jones at TE & Sanders? /faint)

I don't doubt Bush will be good, or even great. I just don't know that he'll be as "Great" as even LT, much less Barry Sanders.

-Arlos

Jay · Post by **Jay** » Wed May 17, 2006 2:59 pm

Barry was short but 200 lbs which allowed him to stop on a dime and change direction. What does Bush weigh in at?

mofish · Post by **mofish** » Wed May 17, 2006 3:04 pm

Barry did not have great hands. Not like it mattered, it was Barry. But Bush has WR hands, better than any of the actual WRs in the draft.

Reggie Bush is listed at 6-0, 203 lbs.

Jay · Post by **Jay** » Wed May 17, 2006 3:17 pm

Yeah, definately the next Barry Sanders.

mofish · Post by **mofish** » Wed May 17, 2006 3:36 pm

Jay wrote:Yeah, definately the next Barry Sanders.